Talk:The Deerslayer

Twain's Critique

i wonder if the guy who wrote the criticism section ever read the article, it ends with "Counting these out, what is left is Art. I think we must all admit that.". i think the section should be rewritten to include that part, otherwise it just looks too negative —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.182.252.179 (talk) 13:13, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

The worthy prequel of the Leatherstocking Tales is a fitting entry in Wikipedia.--Drboisclair 16:39, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

I have often responded to Twain's criticism. I must first start with an ad hominem attack. His critique is so virulent and irrational that this mustachioed, jumping frog-obsessed, faux-Americana "writer" could be accused of jealousy of a greater and more beloved writer than himself. Clemens mentions several supposed rules of writing that Cooper is presumed to have broken without detailing the "source" of these rules or providing any legitimate specific examples thereof. Second of all Clemens hatred of the Hawkeye archetype is not legitimate. Like it or not there are people like Hawkeye who are quiet, circumspect and principled. There aren't many like him, but there are people like him.

There is no mention of the vast number of positive critiques of this Novel. It is ground-breaking in its use of various dramatic techniques that have been used time and time again by American writers and film-makers. Botendaddy (talk) 17:06, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Yes, the article should be expanded with regard to that. Unfortunately that was/is often an issue with Cooper article on Cooper's work in the Wikipedia. Much is still stuckwith/dominated with Mark Twain criticism and not really incorporating differing and later reappraisals (in particular since the 2nd half of the 20th century).--Kmhkmh (talk) 12:55, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

Twain's essay is a manifesto of literary realism, the dominant form at the time, more than a focused critique of Cooper. The responses to Twain's piece seem to miss the point by even bothering to defend Cooper; and in trying to attack Twain, a satirist and iconoclast, they just sound absurd.--NimRenouf (talk) 15:19, 2 January 2023 (UTC)

Mark Twain's Tiresome Criticism

I substantially agree with the above and wonder why Clemens' snide, oft-quoted remarks are singled out for inclusion among many other commentators of these world-famous works. "Mark Twain" was a latter-day realist not in sympathy with Cooper's High Romantic style. His bigoted attitude toward Native Americans was diametrically opposed to Cooper's. His barbed attacks add nothing to our understanding of Cooper's artistic aims or stylistic norms. Delete them, I say.

208.87.248.162 (talk) 15:32, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

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