Talk:Freshman (disambiguation)

Merge proposal

Rather than deleting this page, we should merge The Freshman and Freshmen here, and have a single page for the small collection of article/pluralization variations of the term. bd2412 T 17:59, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

If no one disagrees, I'll go ahead and effect the merge tomorrow. Cheers! bd2412 T 15:47, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

I disagree. Leave Freshmen pretty much as it stands, adding "plural of Freshman" as primary meaning ("Freshmen is the plural of Freshman. It may also refer to"), and hatnote Freshman to Freshman Guitars (list it on Freshmen if really desired), then be be rid of Freshman (disambiguation). It's this last-mentioned DAB page that is useless since it only has one real entry. It seems unlikely that someone wanting Freshman Guitars would search for Freshmen, but if they search for Freshmen they'll get there via the hatnote. Si Trew (talk) 17:25, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

On second thoughts, I agree it would be better to merge and redirect Freshmen (disambiguation) to here, and Freshmen should redirect to Freshman. The hatnote there should be changed to say, "Fresher" redirects here. For the private company, see Fresher Foods Ltd. For other uses of "Freshman" or "Freshmen", see Freshman (disambiguation)." How's that? Si Trew (talk) 17:34, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Incidentally I wonder whether Fresher Foods Ltd. needs the "Ltd.", at least the full stop. Si Trew (talk) 17:36, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I agree with the proposed redirect of Freshmen to Freshman with the hatnote as described. As for the company name, that's a question to be settled on the page for that article, but it seems fine if that's the official company name. bd2412 T 17:43, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Agreed. For the company – while I agree it should be settled there (WP:NCCORP is quite clear on the matter), my suspicion is that it and Fresher Potato Chips (made by this company) fail WP:CORP and should be deleted. I'll take them to AfD, no point moving it first. Si Trew (talk) 05:36, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

I've listed these two at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2010 August 17#Fresher Foods Ltd. The appropriate tags are on the pages, I just mention it here as well. Si Trew (talk) 08:49, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

By the way First year and Freshman are the subject of a merge proposal as well. Whether the two merge proposals should be, er, merged, I can't decide. Si Trew (talk) 08:51, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

I've noted it at Talk:Freshman#Merge proposal of related DABs. Si Trew (talk) 08:58, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

No one has seen fit to raise any further objection to this merge, so I'm going ahead with it. It can always be undone in the future is an issue arises. bd2412 T 01:22, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

Done. Since Fresher Foods appears to be doomed to deletion, I'm not going to worry about that hatnote before the end of the deletion discussion. bd2412 T 01:35, 18 August 2010 (UTC)