Talk:The Punisher (1993 video game)

Merge

This article should be merged into Punisher computer and video games. There is very little information on the page and could be easily intergrated. (Animedude 20:52, 28 October 2006 (UTC))

No. Why? It's a separate title. Like this. --HanzoHattori 00:50, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

The Punisher (2005 video game) had enough information to warrent an indenpented article. This one.. doesn't. Take Spider-Man computer and video games for example. The Spider-man game for the Playstions has its own, with a fully developed article. the Spider-man game for the atari 2600 does not, and simple does not have nough notable uinformation for its own page. This is exactly like that. I would also preffer you not remove the the merge tag untill something is agreed upon. (Animedude 08:47, 29 October 2006 (UTC))

That's because, guess what, it's a stub (and the other one is stub no more). This is not some obscure and completely forgetten Atari 2600 game, it's one of the best known/best scrolled beat'em-ups. Do not put the merge tag, or someone will merge. Wikipedia:Proposed mergers, if you must. --HanzoHattori 22:59, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

That I did, but it seems I am not the only oen who feels it shouyld be merged. Stop being difficult. We are all adults here and as such if you dissagree the matter should be discussed in a formal manner. Going back and forth with edits is not helping.(Animedude 20:18, 31 October 2006 (UTC))

Survey

• Merge - †Bloodpack† 20:20, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
• Merge' - (Animedude 20:21, 31 October 2006 (UTC))

• Sage (and now, gtfo and LET ME DO THIS ARTICLE. You didn't start it, you came after me - seriously, go away, it's just a little harmless STUB FROM SEPTEMBER, so don't rape it away yet you angry comic/weaboowikinazis and also a very scary goth. Go, enjoy the Halloween or something. God.) --HanzoHattori 20:38, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

comment first wikipedia isnt anyone's article, so you cant just say LET ME DO THIS ARTICLE or gtfo, second, be civil, third, theres only 2 option for this survey, either MERGE or OPPOSE and then state your reason, acting with that kinda attitude proves how retarded you are, cant you go by a discussion without trash talking? †Bloodpack† 20:49, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

I'm totally retarded, sure, orfguysdfgsadl;ufhjg, now, go away. If you won't, I'll rape your cat. If you don't have a cat, I'll rape any cat AND YOU'LL BE SORRY. You guys even use the image I uploaded and the links I linked and then tell me to back off because you steal the content and demolish the article, it's amazing. --HanzoHattori 21:02, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

The pictues isn't yours, the links arent yours. Wikipedia belongs to everyone. You are just being immature. We havent even deleted this page, it's still here. Wikipedia is not the place for this third-grade bullshit. If you dont have anythign to say other that proposing to have unwanted sexual encounthers with felines, then please move on to something else. This is tiresome. (Animedude 21:13, 31 October 2006 (UTC))

we told you to back off? please redirect the source link indicating that info. youre the one saying us to go away, is that also a back off? †Bloodpack† 21:15, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Guys, don't lie now. You did delete, repeatedly - I restored every time, it's all in the history for everyone to see. Lieing like this is so low, it's even worse than my cat rape and NLF dirty bomb threats. Now, a compromise: how about I leave you with all the OMG PUNISHER games, and you leave the 1995 for the rest of the world? --HanzoHattori 21:40, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

oh yes now i remember, the reckless edits you did that we reverted. yes, the evidence is saved in the history. btw, this is really off topic †Bloodpack† 21:48, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Of course your wipe-outs of this article, but yeah, you also do great job by reverting all my improvements and corrections in the other one. I salut you, the army of two. --HanzoHattori 22:08, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

i dont know the improvements youre talking about, maybe the extractions you took from Punisher computer and video games †Bloodpack† 14:16, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Merger

Animedude and I feel that this page should be merged into Punisher computer and video games, because it provides essentially no additional content, and what little there may be could easily be added to the main article. If you have any reasons why you do not think that they should be merged, please do set them out below. David Mestel^(Talk) 18:47, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Thepunisher2.png

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BetacommandBot (talk) 07:08, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:The Punisher (1993 video game)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Ugog Nizdast (talk · contribs) 13:15, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

Nominator: Freikorp (talk · contribs) 10:25, 17 September 2014‎ (UTC)

Hey there, I'll be reviewing this article. Expect this to finish within a week or so. -Ugog Nizdast (talk) 13:15, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

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Article looks good, I'll go through it section-wise and see if I can find anything -Ugog Nizdast (talk) 13:35, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

1. Is it reasonably well written?

   A. Prose is "clear and concise", without copyvios, or spelling and grammar errors:

   B. MoS compliance for lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, and lists:

2. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?

   A. Has an appropriate reference section:

   B. Citation to reliable sources where necessary:

   C. No original research:

3. Is it broad in its coverage?

   A. Major aspects:

   B. Focused:

4. Is it neutral?

   Fair representation without bias:

5. Is it stable?

   No edit wars, etc:

6. Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?

   A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content:

   B. Images are provided if possible and are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:

7. Overall:

   Pass or Fail:

   Article passes, all criteria checked. -Ugog Nizdast (talk) 14:56, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

Comments

• Gameplay-> There are two challengeable statements here which I shall tag. It's not that I dispute them...just for verification's sake, I think it would be better if you add those inline cites there.
  • Found a source for one, but couldn't find one for the other. I doubt one exists, and the statement wasn't really important anyway, so I just removed it. Freikorp (talk) 12:27, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

Ok aside from this, is there no source which mention their ability to throw grenades? -Ugog Nizdast (talk) 10:42, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

Turns out the AllGame reference mentions the ability to use grenades, i've added that weapon to the article. Freikorp (talk) 13:01, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

ok Y Ugog Nizdast (talk) 15:19, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

• Plot and characters-> Y looks fine
• Development and release-> Y -Ugog Nizdast (talk) 09:58, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

The only thing which seems like an issue is the reliance on sources which look like fansites to me, but as long as the "Reception" section has reliable sources I don't feel that's going to be a hurdle.

Suggestion: Aside this review, I added the archive link to one reference which you rely heavily on, why don't you try it for the others? In future, if those links go dead, that would be a problem. -Ugog Nizdast (talk) 09:58, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

I've never added archive links before; i'll look into it. Also I probably should have told you earlier, I didn't write the article. I came across it, thought it was almost at GA quality, and made numerous copyedits before nominating it myself. The user who did all the hard work has since retired from editing. Freikorp (talk) 13:01, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

Yes, I've seen that in the history. It is good to that you nominated this to fulfill that retired user's legacy . -Ugog Nizdast (talk) 15:19, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

• Reception -> According to Template:Video game reviews, you should avoid adding references which are not used in the "Reception" section. I see that AllGame and GamePower are not used and but added to the table. -Ugog Nizdast (talk) 10:42, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

  Done. I've added these references to the reception section. Freikorp (talk) 13:01, 30 September 2014 (UTC) Y

• Lead ->
  • A sentence from the Gameplay section would complete it in my opinion. Y
  • Also, notice how most post-2000 reviews praise it while the one contemporary review (Next Generation) 'lambaste' it? I think it would be fair to mention "post-2000" somewhere in the statement "...was acclaimed by critics, being often regarded as one of the best titles in the beat 'em up genre and one of the best video game comic book adaptations of all time", sounds fair? The review is almost done. -Ugog Nizdast (talk) 15:19, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
    • Added a sentence from the gameplay section and clarified that reviews were from the 2010s decade. :) Freikorp (talk) 05:08, 2 October 2014 (UTC) Y

Okay just two more minor issues. One: The infobox mentions quite a few names in the credits but this seems to be unsourced and not mentioned in the article; use your discretion in removing or keeping these. Two: The content sourced in the reception to The Nerdist site almost directly quotes the entire single para considering there just that talking about the game. In the strictest sense, this could be considered as a COPYVIO, suggest you trim down that part.

Alright, I pass this article. Congratulations! and now let me finish doing its paperwork. Good day, Ugog Nizdast (talk) 14:56, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

• Thanks so much for your review :). Freikorp (talk) 02:43, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

Removed content

I've had to remove the 'Arcade' development section in order to get the article passed at DYK, as it did not include any reliable sources. Here is the text that was removed; hopefully some of it can be added back at a later date if reliable sources are found. Freikorp (talk) 15:09, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

The Punisher was directed by Noritaka Funamizu (credited as "Poo") and co-designed by Akira Yasuda, better known as "Akiman". Yoko Shimomura wrote the majority of its music score, with contributions from Isao Abe. The game was released in the Japanese arcades in April 1993. Its ROM contains an unfinished bonus stage aboard an airplane. Music from the game was included on the soundtrack CD Tenchi wo Kurau II -The Battle of Red Wall- ~ G.S.M. Capcom 7, released by Pony Canyon in 1993.

I've removed the following sentence and reference on the grounds the source does not back up the statement at all. I'm guessing the editor who added it just got the issue wrong, but I can't find the correct one. Freikorp (talk) 01:22, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

• "GamesTM retorospectively described it and the arcade Alien vs. Predator as old "gaming nuggets" that provided a "nirvana for fight fans" as "back in the mid-Nineties, no-one made scrolling beat-'em-ups like Capcom."[1]

Archive.org

Many of the citations are still messed up. The work is not "archive.org" but the name of the magazine. Archive.org is just hosting the content, which would usually be copyright infringement, but we're working on the principle that archive.org, as a reputable museum, has secured permissions. Anyway, Archive.org need not be credited in the reference. czar ⨹ 13:08, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

Agreed. I'm bothered by this new confusing and incorrect reference format. @AggressiveNavel: can you please reformat the references you added using Template:Cite web, which was the approved style already in use at this article? Thank you. Freikorp (talk) 22:02, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

I've just taken it upon myself to fix all these references. Freikorp (talk) 01:24, 1 March 2017 (UTC)