Talk:State Service of Maritime and River Transportation of Turkmenistan

Requested move 4 September 2021

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: no consensus. There are some tentative suggestions that some other name might be better, but there's insufficient agreement right now. No prejudice against another RM if a better title is proposed. (non-admin closure) Extraordinary Writ (talk) 21:58, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

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The State Service of Maritime and River Transportation of Turkmenistan → Turkmendenizderyayollary Agency – It is under the jurisdiction of the Ministry of Industry and Communication of Turkmenistan from 2019. --188.119.120.61 (talk) 07:58, 4 September 2021 (UTC)— Relisting. Havelock Jones (talk) 16:24, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

https://turkmenportal.com/blog/17301/v-turkmenistane-sozdano-novoe-ministerstvo-promyshlennosti-i-kommunikacii

• Oppose a move to that title in particular. It does look like the article title should be updated to reflect the 2019 restructuring; but I don't think a long untranslated form is appropriate, and WP:UE seems to agree that even a novel translation would be preferable. I can't quite pick apart Türkmendenizderýaýollary well enough to suggest an appropriate English alternative, though. (Something like Türkmen "Turkmen" + deniz "sea" + derýa "river" + ýol "way" + -‍lar PL + -‍y 3SG.POSS?)

Regardless, we should probably ensure that this article, Turkmen Seaways, and Türkmenderýaýollary (Turkmen Riverways) are all consistently named. Possibly by merging the latter two articles into this one. —Twice Nothing (talk) 02:34, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

• Support name Türkmendeňizderýaýollary as an official web-site name https://tmrl.gov.tm/tk in Turkmen language. --65.108.55.212 (talk) 05:52, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
• Support, or it should be moved to Türkmendeňizderýaýollary Agency. 176.88.28.90 (talk) 07:52, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose as proposed. Seems to be a weird mixture of English and Turkmen. Mixtures of two languages like this are generally best avoided. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:50, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose. No claim has been made that the proposed title is the common name in English, let alone evidence offered. Only primary sources have been cited, which of course tend to follow the official name but are of little relevance. There may be a better name but any move needs to be justified in terms of the article title policy. Andrewa (talk) 16:44, 11 September 2021 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.