Talk:Theodore John Conrad
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![]() | A fact from Theodore John Conrad appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 9 December 2021 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
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Did you know nomination
edit- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 06:57, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
- ... that Theodore Conrad fled after stealing $215,000 from a Cleveland bank in 1969, and successfully evaded authorities until his death in 2021? Source: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/13/us/ohio-bank-robber-dead-massachusetts.html "The U.S. Marshals Service announced that it had found Mr. Conrad after investigators pursued a lead and discovered that he had been living under the fictitious name Thomas Randele in Lynnfield, Mass., about 16 miles north of Boston, until his death from lung cancer in May."
- ALT1: ... that Theodore Conrad, who evaded capture for 52 years after stealing $215,000 from a bank, was believed to have been inspired by the 1968 Steve McQueen film The Thomas Crown Affair? Source: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/13/us/ohio-bank-robber-dead-massachusetts.html A year before, Mr. Conrad had been obsessed with “The Thomas Crown Affair,” a 1968 Steve McQueen film in which a bored billionaire robs a bank to amuse himself. Mr. Conrad had told friends that he planned to rob a bank, bragging about how easy it would be, the U.S. Marshals Service said.
- ALT2: ... that Theodore Conrad, who evaded capture for 52 years after stealing $215,000, remained a fugitive for so long that he was finally tracked down by the son of one of the original investigators? Source: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/13/us/ohio-bank-robber-dead-massachusetts.html “'Can you pass the mashed potatoes?' Peter J. Elliott asked his father, a U.S. marshal in Cleveland, Ohio, who was thinking about the man who had pulled off one of the biggest bank robberies in the city’s history. 'When am I going to get Ted Conrad?' Mr. Elliott asked his son, a year after Theodore J. Conrad had walked off with $215,000 in cash, the equivalent of about $1.6 million today. On Friday, more than 50 years after the heist, the younger Mr. Elliott, now a U.S. marshal himself, had an answer for his father."
Created by Coretheapple (talk). Self-nominated at 17:33, 14 November 2021 (UTC).
- Comment: On further consideration I think ALT 2 may be the best of the three. Coretheapple (talk) 23:48, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
- This interesting article is new enough and long enough. The hook facts are cited inline and any of the three hooks could be used, the article is neutral, and I detected no copyright issues. A QPQ has been done. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:18, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
Description of crime
editEarly coverage refers to him as an embezzler, and he was indicted for that offense. More recent coverage calls him a "bank robber." He was indicted on the former and not the latter offense. To resolve this conflict, I am using the more general term of "criminal" and am removing the "bank robber" category in lieu of "embezzlement." Coretheapple (talk) 16:38, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
- That "more general term" was wrong. He was never a criminal, so I moved the page. A person must be convicted to be a criminal. And as you point out, he was not a robbery suspect. Conrad was an admitted embezzler, but an admission of guilt is not the same as being guilty in the encyclopedic sense.I like to saw logs! (talk) 06:54, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
Bank robber
editRe: Bank robbery and/or robbery. This article (Theodore Conrad), in a hat note, describes Theodore John Conrad as a "bank robber". He was not a "bank robber", correct? He committed a larceny or a theft or, possibly, an embezzlement. But he never "robbed" the money the bank. He merely "stole" the money from the bank. Right? Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 04:15, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
Randele
editEvidently Conrad assumed the first name of Thomas from his love of the movie "Thomas Crown Affair". I was just wondering if he chose the last name Randele as a tribute to Steve McQueen's character in Tv show "Wanted: Dead or Alive", Josh Randall. Flight Risk (talk) 19:34, 3 December 2023 (UTC)