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This reads like a resume

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Latest comment: 8 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

The article's current structure reads like a resume, not an encyclopedic entry. My inclination is to literally delete all those sections and start building this article from scratch, but that's a pretty bold action on a BLP, so I wanted to ask here first: what was the rationale behind the excessive lists in the article? MezzoMezzo (talk) 03:52, 6 December 2016 (UTC)Reply

Agreed. WP:BOLDly removing these sections, including the information in a collapse below, for discussion & possible salvage of anything encyclopedic. - Ryk72 'c.s.n.s.' 04:44, 6 December 2016 (UTC)Reply
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Education
  1. 4th Xaverius Elementary School, Palembang
  2. 2nd Xaverius Junior High School, Palembang
  3. 2nd Palembang Senior High School
  4. Indonesian National Police Academy ("AKPOL"), Semarang - 1987
  5. M.A. Police Studies, University of Exeter, United Kingdom - 1993
  6. Indonesian Police Education College ("PTIK"), Jakarta - 1996
  7. B.A. Strategic Studies, Massey University Auckland, New Zealand - 1998
  8. PhD Strategic Studies, Nanyang Technological University, Singapore - 2013
Rank
See also: Police ranks § Indonesia
  1. Second Inspector (1987)
  2. First Inspector (1990)
  3. Chief Inspector (1993)
  4. Police Commissioner (1997)
  5. Superintendent (2001)
  6. Chief Commissioner (2005)
  7. Brigadier General (2010)
  8. Inspector General (2012)
  9. Commissioner General (2016)
  10. Police General (2016)
Career history
  1. Sabhara unit officer of the Central Jakarta Metropolitan Police (1987)
  2. Chief of Crime with Assault investigation unit of the Central Jakarta Metropolitan Police (1987–1991)
  3. Chief Deputy of Senen Sectoral Police district, Central Jakarta Metropolitan Police (1991–1992)
  4. Chief Deputy of Sawah Besar Sectoral Police district, Central Jakarta Metropolitan Police
  5. Private Secretary of the Jakarta Metropolitan Police chief (1996)
  6. Cempaka Putih Sectoral Police district chief, Central Jakarta Metropolitan Police (1996–1997)
  7. Private Secretary of the Indonesian National Police chief (1997–1999)
  8. Economical Investigation Unit chief of the Jakarta Metropolitan Police (1999–2000)
  9. Public Investigation unit chief of the Jakarta Metropolitan Police (2000–2002)
  10. Specific Crime Investigation unit chief of South Sulawesi Provincial Police (2002)
  11. Private Secretary Coordinator of the Jakarta Metropolitan Police chief (2002 – 2003)
  12. National safety investigation unit chief of the Jakarta Metropolitan Police investigation dept. (2003 – 2005)
  13. Detachment 88 chief of the Jakarta Metropolitan Police (2004 – 2005)
  14. Serang Police chief, of the Banten Provincial Police (2005)
  15. Detachment 88's assistance sub-detachment chief (2005)
  16. Detachment 88's action sub-detachment chief (2006)
  17. Detachment 88's intelligence sub-detachment chief (2006 – 2009)
  18. Chief of Detachment 88 (2009-2010)
  19. Deputy of Repression and Development Capabilities of the National Agency for Combating Terrorism ("BNPT") (2011-21 Sept 2012)
  20. Papua Provincial Police chief (21 Sept 2012-16 July 2014)
  21. Planning and Development assistant of the Indonesian National Police (16 July 2014-12 June 2015)
  22. Chief of Jakarta Metropolitan Police (12 June 2015-16 March 2016)
  23. Chief of National Agency for Combating Terrorism ("BNPT") (16 March 2016 -13 July 2016)
  24. Indonesian National Police chief (13 July 2016 - now)
Courses
  1. Advanced English Course, The British Council, Jakarta, Indonesia (1991)
  2. Management of Serious Crimes (MOSC), AFP College, Canberra, Australia (2000)
  3. Post Blast Investigation Course, Louisiana Police Academy, Batonrouge, USA (2001)
  4. Anti Terrorism Course, British High Commissioner, Singapore (2005)
  5. Maritime Security Conference and Course, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia (2006)
  6. National Tactical Officers Association (NTOA) Conference and Course, Los Angeles, USA (2006)
  7. Short Course on Radicalisation by Australian Foreign Affairs and Trade, Sydney, Australia (2010)
  8. Gold Command Crisis Management Course, Bramshill Police Institute, UK (2010)
  9. Short Program of Course Separatism Movement in United Arab Emirates (2014)
International Deployments
  • UK (Master's Degree Program - University of Exeter, United Kingdom) (1992 – 1993)
  • Republic of Ireland (Comparative Study) (1992)
  • France (Comparative Study) (1993)
    (Official visit to Paris Police Nationale and Gendarmerie) (2005, 2007, 2009, 2012)
  • Spain (Comparative Study) (1993)
    (Official visit to Spanish Police – Madrid) (2005)
  • The Netherlands (Comparative Study) (1993, 2002)
  • Italy (Comparative Study) (1993)
  • Austria (Comparative Study) (1993)
  • USA (NYPD, LAPD, FBI ACADEMY Quantico- Official visit) (1997)
    Hawaii (Asian Crimes Conference) (2004)
    Hawaii (PASOC Conference on Terrorism) (2007)
    Washington DC (Conference and Lemhannas study trip) (2008, 2010, 2011)
  • Mexico (official visit) (2001)
  • New Zealand (Command & Staff College 7 months) (1998)
    (Guest Speaker in Anti Terrorism Conference) (2005)
  • Vietnam (ASEANAPOL Conference Hanoi) (1998)
  • Hongkong (official visit) (1998, 2002)
    (Investigation into an Intellectual Property Rights case) (2000)
  • Australia (Official visit with the Chief of Indonesia Nat Police) (1997)
    (Course at Army Staff College) (1998)
    (Management of Serious Crime Course Canberra) (2000)
    (Radicalisation course in Sydney) (2010)
    (Seminar on Terrorism, Canberra and Sydney) (2010)
    Seminar on Terrorism di Canberra and Sydney (2011, 2012)
  • South Korea (Interpol Conference – Seoul) (2002)
  • Saudi Arabia (Umrah, Haji) (2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2011)
  • Switzerland (official visit) (2004)
  • Singapore (Anti Terrorism Course, info sharing withSingaore Police, Force Conference) (2005)
    (Guest Speaker – Asian Conference on Global Security) (2007)
    Various Seminars, PhD program (2008-2012)
  • Germany (Berlin, Koln, Heidelberg – Official visit to BKA) (2005)
  • Malaysia (Maritime Security Conference and Course, SEARCCT) (2005, 2006)
    Sharing operation  (2008, 2009, 2010)
  • Brunei (official visit) (2005)
  • Turkey (Istanbul, official visit) (2005)
    (2nd Istanbul Conference on Terrorism and Global Security) (2007)
    GCTF Conference (2011)
  • Philippines (Investigation into terrorism case) (2005)
    (Trainer in a joint course for INP and PNP officers) (2009)
  • Japan (Tokyo, 1st Japan-ASEAN Dialogue on Counterterrorism) (2006)
    (Tokyo, Intersessional Meeting Japan-ASEAN Counter Terrorism Dialogue) (2007)
    Tokyo, Kobe, Kyoto – Official visit to NPA (2011)
  • Thailand (official visit) (2006)
    (official visit to Indonesian Embassy) (2007)
  • Jordan (1st Fusion Task Force –Anti Terrorism Interpol, Amman) (2006)
  • Egypt (Official visit to Cairo and Alexandria) (2007)
  • United Arab Emirates (Dubai – Official Visit) (2007)
  • Pakistan (Islamabad-1st Meeting of Indonesia-Pakistan Joint Working Group on Terrorism) (2007)
  • Russia, CT dialogue Indonesia and Russia in Moscow (2010)
  • Cambodia (Speakers on Terrorism and Political Conflicts in Phnom Penh) (2009)
    (Indonesian Delegation for ASEANAPOL) in Siem Rep (2010)
  • Poland – Head of Delegation for Anti Nuclear Smuggling – Interpol (2012)
  • Paris - Co-ordination for investigating bomb blast at Indonesian embassy (2012)
  • USA - Chief of Low Budgeting and Eficiency Program for Police National of Indonesia (2014)
  • Australia - Head of Part-Negotiation for Case of Poisoning among Cyanide and Arsenic (2016)
  • Iraq - Member of Delegate Conference Bomb Murderer Self Destruction of Baghdad City (2016)
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