Talk:Tornado outbreak of March 13–15, 2024

Latest comment: 18 days ago by EF5 in topic FAC?
Former featured article candidateTornado outbreak of March 13–15, 2024 is a former featured article candidate. Please view the links under Article milestones below to see why the nomination was archived. For older candidates, please check the archive.
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DateProcessResult
March 19, 2024Featured article candidateNot promoted

Indiana EF3+

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There should be a separate section for this tornado. Iamakid836e5 (talk) 00:12, 16 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

That user is a suspected sockpuppet of @Lokicat3345. West Virginia WXeditor (talk) 20:18, 10 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Outbreak Sequence - Incorrect

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The title should be reverted to Tornado Outbreak, as an outbreak sequence is an extended period of nearly nonstop tornadic activity over a longer period of time, not two days. Examples of a sequence would be May 2003 and May 2019. Someone with more skill in editing Wikipedia articles should change this. TwistyBoi (talk) 03:27, 16 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

I fixed it. Whoever made this page clearly has no idea what an outbreak sequence is.
TornadoInformation12 (talk) 04:56, 16 March 2024 (UTC)TornadoInformation12Reply
I named it "outbreak" originally. I did not make the move. Mjeims (talk) 06:04, 16 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
Sorry I didn’t mean to blame you. I found the culprit. It was some random kid.
TornadoInformation12 (talk) 10:48, 16 March 2024 (UTC)TornadoInformation12Reply

Indiana EF3+

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Ive seen plenty of EF4 damage pictures. The damage to the Taco Bell looks like low end EF4. The NWS is investigating it further. I'll pay attention to the Damage Assessment Toolkit if anything changes. Jesus is the only way to eternal life (talk) 15:20, 17 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

Enhanced Fujita Scale damage indicators ares extremely precise and nitpicky. 30 years ago someone would have rated both the Wapakoneta and Winchester tornadoes F4 without batting an eye. But I do think there is a good chance this one gets upgraded. We'll see if that happens. Mjeims (talk) 15:22, 17 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
Just as a warning; @Jesus is the only way to eternal life is a likely sock puppet of @Lokicat3345. West Virginia WXeditor (talk) 20:17, 10 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Indiana-Kentucky (Carrolton) EF2

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The summary box for the tornado contains nearly 2k bytes. This should be split into a seperate section. 72.46.58.233 (talk) 12:42, 18 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

I went ahead and made a section (which is over 800 bytes longer than that original summary box) 72.46.58.233 (talk) 13:21, 18 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

Should the Lakeview EF3 have it's own article?

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I'm not going to go through the hassle of creating the article if it's not even necessary, but here are some of my points as to why.

  1. It was a very destructive tornado which killed 3 and caused a mass-casualty event
  2. It is notable, as many national/international newsgroups have reported on it
  3. It was very uncalled for, and was very long-tracked
  4. There is a lot more info that could be put into a separate page, not everything in this article is covered

Feedback is appreciated :)

( ͡°( ͡° ͜ʖ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)ʖ ͡°)͡°) (talk) 14:05, 18 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

I don't think there's anything about it that deserves its own article; the damage was severe but not exceptional. Even violent tornadoes do not usually get their own article unless they are particularly newsworthy (see Rolling Fork, Western Kentucky, etc.) If this article doesn't cover enough, then you should add it here, as long as it's not just trivia. Penitentes (talk) 14:18, 18 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
Typically, we want to wait for something to meet WP:LASTING. An article may be reasonable, but it's not a sure thing right now. Wikiwillz (talk) 15:52, 18 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
Okay, that makes sense. I'm honestly surprised the NWS hasn't released any info on the tornado yet. ( ͡°( ͡° ͜ʖ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)ʖ ͡°)͡°) (talk) 16:19, 18 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
Strongly disagree, this user is infamous for filling weather wiki with fancruft. HamiltonthesixXmusic (talk) 20:39, 18 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
? ( ͡°( ͡° ͜ʖ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)ʖ ͡°)͡°) (talk) 11:48, 19 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
User:MemeGod27 has edited tornado related blurbs into absurdly large paragraphs, and needlessly mentions things like Ryan Hall and Twitter tornado ratings. They write poorly and not well organized, and not at all encyclopedic in tone. HamiltonthesixXmusic (talk) 03:05, 20 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for the assumptions, but maybe do something called actual research (search my account history) and you'd 100% realize I don't know who the heck you are talking about. ( ͡°( ͡° ͜ʖ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)ʖ ͡°)͡°) (talk) 10:21, 20 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
I would not agree with giving it an article since it can already be comfortably included in with the outbreak article. I think it would be an unnecessary content fork to have pages for both this outbreak and the Lakeview tornado. TornadoLGS (talk) 21:44, 20 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
I think the High-end EF3 that destroyed the taco bell should have an article 2600:1014:B126:2C48:0:48:20FC:5E01 (talk) 16:49, 7 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

FAC?

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Hey Hawkeye7, I don’t wish to be rude since this is your FA candidate nomination, but the article will change in the near future. All tornado damage surveys take 3 months before they are finalized. NOAA releases that finalized information 3-months later, meaning these will have updates (most likely every tornado here) in June this year. Again, I am not trying to be rude here at all, but being blunt, this is not even close to meeting FA criteria, let alone even GA criteria since both FA and GA criteria require the article to not change much day to day. While it may look like it doesn’t change day-to-day, the information here is not finalized and is marked fully as preliminary.

My honest opinion: You may wish to withdraw your FAC and try again in a couple of months, once the finalized damage surveys from NOAA release. The finalized reports will be posted on this NOAA website when they release, but it takes 3-months for release (with December 2023 being the latest set of released finalized damage surveys). That said, this is your FAC and you are free to continue it if you wish. If you do, then for the FAC review, please note that the article will almost certainly change from its current version come the middle of June 2024. Cheers! The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 23:50, 3 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

@WeatherWriter: This was an issue where Memegod27 nominated it and never put a template here. Hawkeye added the FAC template so the bot could close the FAC nomination and update the history here. Noah, AATalk 23:51, 3 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
Yea, I added it without realizing any of our FAC guidelines at the time. :) EF5 19:26, 11 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
Ah gotcha. I was slightly confused when Hawkeye put the template. That makes sense. Cheers! The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 23:51, 3 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
I should have provided a more detailed explanation of what I was doing. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 23:56, 3 April 2024 (UTC)Reply