Talk:Tribal Wars

Pre-Creation

1.The content itself has been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent of the site itself. This criterion includes reliable published works in all forms, such as newspaper and magazine articles, books, television documentaries, websites, and published reports by consumer watchdog organizations. -I've sited a BBC article which lists TribalWars as one of the top 10 browser games in terms of players. Over 34 million users is extremely notable.

I've also listed multiple independent websites that serve solely as reference tools for the game. There are many more I could chose to list if that is needed. I'd like to know how this does not establish credibility, and preferable have a chance to correct it before the page is deleted BlackChaosBelow (talk) 21:46, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

In a nutshell, I only see ONE valid reliable source in the article (the BBC News one). The others are a forum (never a reliable source), another is the developer's site, the one in German appears to be the game itself, and the last two don't provide significant coverage of the subject as far as WP:RS goes. If these references are what you call "non-trivial", I'm sorry but it is not enough to establish the notability of this content. The number of players in the game is also insignificant to the establishment of notability. Whose Your Guy (talk) 22:50, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

So would because the BBC article is only one source, would it establish notability if I were to find another BBC or widepublished article?BlackChaosBelow (talk) 01:54, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

There are quite a few articles written about it, but the articles are in German. Seeing as the subject of the articles is still english, would http://www.gamestar.de/index.cfm?pid=1530&pk=1949089 be acceptable as a source? Also, there was an article written in Forbes magazine (once again in german) which can be found at http://www.innogames.de/files/Hauptordner/presse/rumaenisches-forbes-magazin.pdf BlackChaosBelow (talk) 02:06, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

If those sources are in German (is the game German based?), they could be included, but English sources would be better. Whose Your Guy (talk) 02:42, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

The game was originally based in Germany, but went international in 2006. Because the company is German, that's where most of the news releases come from.BlackChaosBelow (talk) 11:22, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

In that case, this article might be better suited (and more notable) on the German Wikipedia. Whose Your Guy (talk) 17:21, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

I suppose that would be true. However, just because the company isn't English doesn't mean it should have a slot. Take Toyota, for example. Based in Japan, does stuff in America, has a page in English Wikipedia. This is a group based in Germany, and has games available in English that many people play. As I am a member of the English players (And don't speak German), I thought it would be more appropriate to place it here.BlackChaosBelow (talk) 18:37, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

As one of the first games of this type, it is also notable. Xeos (talk) 02:03, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

Post-Creation

Could a user who knows how to format sources make the reflist on the page look decent?BlackChaosBelow (talk) 20:03, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

Combat Statistics

Stats have been posted here. Unless you intend to make these into an info-graphic, etc. to be displayed in a user-friendly format, they should not be posted on the page.

Here is a list of troops and units. Barracks: Spear fighter,Swordmen and Axeman Stable: Scouts, Light Cavalry and Heavy Cavalry Academy: Nobleman Statue: Paladin Workshop: Rams and Catapults. Spear fighters are the most basic units and are good in defending against enemy cavalry. Spear fighters are the quickest possible unit to recruit.Spear fighters are usually used plunder and Farm (attack repeatedly to gain resources) Barbarian or Abandoned villages. Swordmen are the best units for defending against infantry. They are slow effective defensive units. Axeman and great offensive units, however they offer almost no defense. Axeman are great for farming as well. Scouts are the only units that can see the building levels of other players. They also obtain information on troops count. Scouts are the quickest units possible, but should not be used for attacks as they have NO offensive strength at all. Light cavalry are the best units for farming and are the second fastest units. Their offensive strength is extremely high though not as high as Heavy Cavalry. Heavy Cavalry are the third fastest unit and are multipurpose elite knights. You can use them to farm or defend. Nobleman reduce the loyalty of the village. One successful attack with a nobleman minuses 20-35 loyalty out of 100. 3,4 or 5 attacks are necessary to conquer a village. The Paladin is the best unit possible and i also great for farming with light cavalry. However, each player may only have 1 Paladin. The paladin can find items that help your troops. See List of Items. Rams are suppose take down your enemy's wall, which gives a high or low defensive bonus to the defender's troops depending on its level. Catapults demolish building levels which means they can damage a level 20 building way back to level 1 or sometimes even demolish it as a whole. Items: Halberd of Guan Yu Increases the defensive fighting power of Spear fighters by 30 % and offensive power by 20% Paracelus Longsword Increases the defensive fighting power of Swordsmen by 40 % and offensive power by 30% Thogards Battle Axe Increases the defensive fighting power of Axemen by 40 % and offensive power by 30% Kalids telescope Scouts always see troops even troops in transit Miesko's Lance Increases the defensive fighting power of Light Cavalry by 30 % and offensive power by 20% Baptiste's Banner Increases the defensive fighting power of Heavy Cavalry by 30 % and offensive power by 20% Carol's Morning Star Increases the defensive fighting power of Rams by 30 % and offensive power by 20% Aletheia's Bonfire Increases the defensive fighting power of Catapults by 30 % and offensive power by 20% Vasco's Scepter Increases loyalty damage by 30% Unit Strength Spear Offensive Strength:10 General Defense:15 Cavalry Defense:45 Swordsmen Offensive Strength:25 General Defense:50 Cavalry Defense:25 Axemen Offensive Strength:40 General Defense:10 Cavalry Defense:5 Scout Offensive Strength:0 General Defense:1 Cavalry Defense:2 Light Cavalry Offensive Strength:130 General Defense:30 Cavalry Defense:40 Heavy Cavalry Offensive Strength:150 General Defense:200 Cavalry Defense:80 Ram Offensive Strength:2 General Defense:20 Cavalry Defense:50 Catapult Offensive Strength:50 General Defense:100 Cavalry Defense:100 Paladin Offensive Strength:150 General Defense:250 Cavalry Defense:400 Nobleman Offensive Strength:30 General Defense:100 Cavalry Defense:50 BlackChaosBelow (talk) 17:54, 16 May 2011 (UTC), stats posted by Wu890

Criticism

Recently, many experienced players have been complaining about the length of the game, the increasing role of activity and declining popularity. The game has been facing a declining player base. Many people who played the game are either bored as the accounts grow big and boring. Another reason is that when a newcomer plays for the first time they often get defeated by the hands of more experienced players and leave the game.

The above will be placed here until such a time as it is cited. BlackChaosBelow (talk) 02:57, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Is this game really TribalWars in one word? i always used 2 and the main site for the game says Tribal Wars in 2 words188.183.159.234 (talk) 20:49, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

References

I'd like to ask someone to update some of the references which are outdated or have dead links. Those would be:

- Reference No. 2: link leads to a German page and is outdated anyway, should rather link to http://www.innogames.com/en/
- Reference No. 5: link is broken and therefore redirects to home page, number of players is outdated, link should rather go to http://www.innogames.com/en/browser-games/tribal-wars/, where the latest number of players can be found
- Reference No. 7: link redirects to home page, because article is not online any more and can't be found anywhere on the internet (at least I can't find it)

Or could I update the links by myself in your opinion (since I'm working for the company who created TribalWars and therefore could be accused of not being objective)? Anita Böhm (InnoGames GmbH) (talk) 11:57, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

To be honest, this entire article is way too lengthy, goes into way too much detail about the mechanics of the game and is very borderline as far as crossing the line from just an article, to promoting the game itself. At the moment it reads far too much like a press release for the game. By way of comparison Clash of Clans which is a similar kind of game, the article is much more balanced Dimspace (talk) 22:18, 25 March 2015 (UTC)