Talk:Trumbull College

Looks good.

Petercdmulcahy 19:17, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Is it really necessary to mention that Bingham has roof top access?

Not necessarily Bgwwlm 23:23, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Photo

This article could use a better one... -Cjs2111 01:23, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Motto & Potty Court Frisbee

Regarding the motto, in the mid 1970s, the motto used on at least one college document was "We must consult Brother Jonathan." If memory serves, about that time the Trumbulletin began using the phrase "Fortune favors the bold" to introduce sports reports. By the way, Master Bob Fogelin once claimed that his family's motto was "Side pocket soft." All this explains a great deal about the character of the college in the 1970s, but exactly what, I don't know.

Regarding terminology for Potty Court Frisbee, the Yale Daily News article spells the two-point score "Grundl." It was clearly pronounced "Grendel." As far as I know, this was the only widely accepted special scoring term. Other terms, such as "blutz" for a point scored through deflection by a defender, had limited use.

Potty Court Frisbee suffered greatly from the shift in the academic calendar in the early 1970s, which took away two or three weeks of the best spring playing weather. The shift to colder days must have encouraged the practice of wearing gloves.

Goldfish-silverfish (talk) 15:00, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

News & History

This article needs work! First, "News" doesn't belong in an encyclopedia article. I propose moving the bullet about renovation into the History section and deleting the News section. Second, the History section is a bit thin. Can anyone add material about the college in the 1940s through the 1960s? Is it true that Trumbull was once "the bursar's college," home to most of the scholarship students? Is it true that one early co-education proposal had Trumbull becoming the women's college? (Inky Clark, the college's first dean, surely did play a role in Yale admitting women.) Third, there must be more notable alumni from the college's earlier decades. Who can do a little research and claim the glory of improving the page? Goldfish-silverfish (talk) 19:46, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

Also, wasn't Garry Trudeau a Trumbull alumnus? During his Yale days, he wrote a cartoon called "Bull Tales". I believe this name was derived from "Trumbull", but I can't find a reference. Gglockner (talk) 18:07, 10 December 2019 (UTC)

Trudeau is an alumnus of Davenport. Goldfish-silverfish (talk) 02:23, 11 December 2019 (UTC)

The news section hasn't been updated in a few years. It isn't very newsy. It doesn't belong in an encyclopedia entry. I again suggest that we delete it. Any reactions? Goldfish-silverfish (talk) 22:37, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

College Traditions

It might be a little confusing to readers to have old and new traditions appear side-by-side in the same section. I propose splitting College Traditions into two categories: present and past. Potty Court Frisbee and the Beer and Bike race would go into "past," perhaps along with the Trumbulletin. Also, the Trumbull Crier may deserve mention as a past tradition. And is Cornhole still a tradition? The "increasingly popular" wording has been in the article for years and must be out of date. Any reactions and insights would be welcome (But please, no original research. This is Wikipedia!). Goldfish-silverfish (talk) 20:16, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

Requested move 12 September 2015

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The result of the move request was: moved. The consensus is to revert the move as unnecessary disambiguation. Jenks24 (talk) 12:44, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

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Trumbull College (Yale University) → Trumbull College – The move made by BoringHistoryGuy may help some readers understand the affiliation of Trumbull College with Yale University, but is not consistent with WP:D. "Trumbull College" is the only topic using this name, and further disambiguation isn't necessary. I believe the lead sentence appropriately clarifies the relationship between the college and Yale University. Nickknack00 (talk) 13:32, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

It's far more than "some readers", it's probably 99% of them. It gets even more confusing on Wiki Commons pages where there is no explanation that these Yale college houses are not educational institutions. I've been to Yale several times and hadn't heard of Trumbull College. Imagine how more confusing it would be for a young person or a non-native English speaker. The change is a modest way to help the non-Eli. BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 14:01, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

I agree with you that almost all readers would need some kind of clarification. My only claim here is that parenthetical disambiguation in this article isn't consistent with article naming conventions for Wikipedia. Also no disagreement about Commons confusion; adding explanatory text to Wikipedia Commons pages (or creating them, if necessary) would also be a good idea. Nickknack00 (talk) 02:05, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

If you'll add explanatory text to the Wikimedia Commons pages for all the Yale college houses, I won't oppose your revert. I came upon Trumbull College on Commons while looking for images of Collegiate Gothic architecture. Some of the Yale college house categories had explanatory text or a link to Wikipedia, but most did not. So I was left to wonder, is this a satellite campus? an institutional merger? a seminary? something else? By the way, thank you for doing things this way, rather than just re-reverting. BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 15:08, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

• Support revert. There's no need for unnecessary disambiguation and the affiliation to Yale is explained in the article. Zarcadia (talk) 17:50, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

As a side note, it's true that the Yale residential colleges are not independent educational institutions, but they are not simply "dormitories" as they were termed in the explanation of the move/renaming of the article. For most or perhaps all of the residential colleges, more students belong to the college than actually reside in it. Non-residents may include freshmen living on the Old Campus, students living in overflow space, and students simply choosing to live off-campus. These students use the college's facilities and participate in college activities. Also, the colleges have affiliated faculty (the fellows) and offer a few undergraduate courses each term outside any of the usual academic departments. Goldfish-silverfish (talk) 16:20, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

• OTHER PAGE DISCUSSIONS - I have procedurally closed the discussions at Calhoun College and Jonathan Edwards College on this same topic so they can be discussed and agreed together in one talk page. Tiggerjay (talk) 18:46, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
• Support the revert, the DAB is unnecessary and may cause additional confusion. Tiggerjay (talk) 18:47, 19 September 2015 (UTC)

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Undiscussed move of residential college articles

Bill Grant has moved the pages for each of the 14 Yale College residential colleges to new pages, each named "[College Name], Yale". He has done so apparently without discussion—at least without discussion on the Talk pages of Residential colleges of Yale University, Yale College, Yale University, or Ezra Stiles College. I don't think these moves are necessary, nor that "College Name, Yale" would necessarily be the best name if they were. So I've reverted the move, pending discussion at Residential colleges of Yale University. PRRfan (talk) 14:38, 8 November 2021 (UTC)

I agree with your reversions (and performed a few of them myself as well), as the new titles conflict with the guidance at WP:TITLE. --Kinu ^t/_c 15:23, 8 November 2021 (UTC)