Talk:Turin King List

This page's first image

The first image on this page is not very useful for most viewers. It's written in hieroglyphics, as if we're expected to be able to read that. Therefore, I highly recommend at least creating a link to a translation (preferably in English). --Nate5713 (talk) 02:35, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

"New" fragments

There are lots of articles in the internet, that in about 2004 new fragments were discovered in a storage room of the museum. It's much more easier than that. In the afore mentioned year, some specialists from the British Museum came to Turin to help them conservating the whole papyrus. But they were astonished to see, that some of the fragments, they already knew from the publications of Lepsius, Ed. Meyer, Farina and Gardiner were missing. Farina has a good photograph of the state of the papyrus at his time (1938), from which it is very clear, that all the fragments were mounted in three glass cases. In one of them all the unplaced fragments were put together. The other fragments were presented in the other two cases in 11 columns. All of the afore mentioned Egyptologists made copies even of the unplaced fragments. So the British colleages were astonished not to find the third case in place, but after searching the whole museum they found it in a storage room. That's for sure and not surprising at all. The fragments were already known, but are still unplaced within the 11 columns of the proper papyrus. Now Ryholt regrouped the fragments (perhaps using some hitherto unplaced ones) and proposed a new placing. 86.5.133.109 (talk) 17:00, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

Why doesn't this page includes the gods potion of the list?

Wikipedia includes the Antedleuvian kings in it's Sumerian Kings-List.--JaredMithrandir (talk) 18:27, 27 May 2017 (UTC)

Columns and rows

Under the "Contents of the papyrus" section, the columns and rows list doesn't match with the tables below it.

   Column 1 — Gods of Ancient Egypt
   Column 2 — Gods of Ancient Egypt, spirits and mythical kings
   Column 3 — Rows 11-25 (Dynasties 1-2)
   Column 4 — Rows 1-25 (Dynasties 2-5)
   Column 5 — Rows 1-26 (Dynasties 6-8/9/10)
   Column 6 — Rows 12-25 (Dynasties 11-12)
   Column 7 — Rows 1-2 (Dynasties 12-13)
   Column 8 — Rows 1-23 (Dynasty 13)
   Column 9 — Rows 1-27 (Dynasty 13-14)
   Column 10 — Rows 1-30 (Dynasty 14)
   Column 11 — Rows 1-30 (Dynasties 14-17)

There is no column 1 table. The column 2 table has listing for rows 11-25. Makes me think it should be column 3. The column 4 table has 26 rows, but the list says it only has 25 rows. The column 6 table has 27 rows, but the list says it only has 12 thru 25 rows. etc.Jdtrue63 (talk) 09:42, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

I know some hieroglyphs and hieratic script and I agree that the Contents of the papyrus section is not at all supported by the (image of) the fragments. As a simple example the tenth column in English has "Zeket.." in line 25 where the raw material just says "?", the next line is just "40 times" (𓊗𓎆𓎆𓎆𓎆) in Egyptian and but "Ar..." in English.

This page needs some serious revision / criticism / explanation. 149.233.136.167 (talk) 16:01, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

WikiProject

Re removal of I have seen this WikiProject occasionally on talk pages; I do not know why it was necessary to remove it.--Johnsoniensis (talk) 20:10, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

Because the template does not link to anything, does not populate categories, and can not be rated. It belongs to a "WikiProject" which is not actually independent. See Wikipedia:WikiProject Royalty and Nobility: "The Royalty and Nobility Work Group is a working group of members of the Biography WikiProject dedicated to ensuring quality and coverage of biography articles." Dimadick (talk) 11:59, 4 August 2018 (UTC)