Talk:Turkish Resistance Organisation

Latest comment: 5 years ago by Nychtopouli in topic "In Reality No One Was Asleep" by Ismael Tansu

NPOV

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I know that one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter, and given my views favoring the TRNC, writing further would probably be regarded as blatant POV. However, if someone can add factual data in such a way to maintain NPOV, then please do so. The disputeCyprus issue is not an easy one to 'sit on the fence', so if anybody can do so, then good luck. Expatkiwi 05:06 14 June 2005 (UTC)

Your ideas are incredibly POV. Expect this article to be equalized in a few days.

I hope so. Also, citation needed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.240.4.1 (talk) 10:24, 26 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Ok, so shouldn't this be classified under terrorist organisation or something? Soathana (talk) 11:44, 13 September 2009 (UTC)Reply

The Wolf

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Baris you just reverted the sources. Have a look at AVRUPA and please explain what the wolf stands for then  Aristovoos   (T) 18:22, 27 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

From Here, http://www.doguturkistan.net/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=964

please translate:

Türk Milleti’ni simgeleyen BOZKURT’u sembol alan TMT; Kıbrıs’ın Türk kalma ve Kıbrıs Türkü’nün var olma mücadelesinde Türk Milleti’ne karşı tarihsel sorumluluğunu başarıyla yerine getirir... Tıpkı “örgütlenmesini” daha önceleri Hacı Bektaş-ı Veli’nin dergahından çıkarak “Anadolu’da tecrübe” etmiş gibi... Sanki Hz. Türkistan Ahmet YESEVİ’nin ocağından geldiğini ispatlar gibi... TMT’nin kurutulmuş oğlak etiyle beslenen Bozkurtlar’ı, Kuvay-ı Milliye’nin dipdiri ayakta olduğunu gösterir gibiydiler...

 Aristovoos   (T) 18:32, 27 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

Look dude. The web-site's name doguturkistan.net translates into "eastturkistan.net" - East Turkistan is in China. Extremist web-sites cannot be cited to give the impression that it is a hundred percent confirmed fact. All I am saying is that it would be better if we could use some impartial books on the Cyprus issue as sources. Eastturkistan.net has nothing to do with this, they could be simply trying to "recuparate" political points by connecting itself with TMT. I am not saying they did or didn't use any particular symbol, but you cannot simply say "ultra-nationalist pan-turkist" where as the EOKA-B article, an organization that was recognized as terrorist not only by TR but also UK, has this for the intro "EOKA-B was a Greek Cypriot right-wing pro-enosis paramilitary organisation formed in 1971 that ..." See the difference in tone? That's all.. Baristarim 18:43, 27 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

Tried to rewrite the intro, will try to contact other users for a restructuring of the article and creation of "background, organization, acts, timeline and aftermath" sections. Baristarim 19:27, 27 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

Fair use rationale for Image:Tmt.jpg

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BetacommandBot (talk) 02:13, 12 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

Nihat İlhan

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Claims such as this about the incident involving Nihat İlhan should under no circumstances be re-inserted to this page as it constitutes a severe violation of WP:BLP. Quoting from the policy, "Contentious material about living persons (or, in some cases, recently deceased) that is unsourced or poorly sourced – whether the material is negative, positive, neutral, or just questionable – should be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion", and a claim that originates from a journalist with "an interview with journalist Ahmet Baran" is hearsay and by no means a reliable and authoritative source, and such extraordinary claims require extraordinary sources to merit inclusion. Who is Ahmet Baran, how did he come to know about this and what is his degree of investigation/involvement with the incident? If this was a claim that was made in a number of publications from respected publishing houses with a solid justification, only then it could be included in the article. It does not matter if any other people repeat the same claims, inserting an unsubstantiated claim that a living person committed such an act is out of question, unless the case is as stated above. It must be noted that this is also a very sensitive topic and bringing such claims without due grounds also brings about issues of undue weight. Please do not re-instate the content. --GGT (talk) 15:51, 10 April 2015 (UTC)Reply

Rauf Denktas and Zafer Kibrisli Turkeridir

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On 13 September 2014, @HelSpenser: added two paragraphs[1]- his only contribution to en.Wikipedia so far. The first paragaph states something incorrect. I can't verify what is said in the second paragraph and I would kindly ask if someone could offer some help.

  • At the first paragraph, is stated that R. Denktas admitts that TMT was responsible for the bomb, even though he never mentions TMT. Instead he names a friend, whose name won't reviel that placed the bomb. Most probable he was a member of TMT but that is just my assumtion. Denktas was clever enough not to blame the TMT.
  • At the second paragraph, an article in an unknown -at least to me-Turkish Cypriot newspaper is cited . I have never heard of it before, and if someone could do some backround check, I 'd appriciate.Τζερόνυμο (talk) 10:59, 30 April 2018 (UTC)Reply
  • Thanks for your attention. You are absolutely right - in addition, we have to consider WP:PRIMARY as well. We cannot have a YouTube video as a source for such a topic, at least a newspaper article or preferably an academic source is required. This topic is covered by a couple of other sources, although none definitively implicate the TMT - see the article on Bayraktar Mosque.
  • There is no newspaper called "Zafer Kıbrıslı Türklerindir". There was one called "Zafer" published in the period [2]. However, I don't think that "Zafer Kıbrıslı Türklerindir" is an alternative name for that. Furthermore, considering the political environment at the time, I find the supposed headline very improbable and the whole statement very dubious; it has been tagged to request verification for some time now anyway. Questions of WP:PRIMARY apply anyway - such murders can and should be described using better sources. As such, it would be more appropriate for this sentence to be removed or replaced. --GGT (talk) 00:48, 1 May 2018 (UTC)Reply

Year of publication...

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  • Emircan, Mehmet Salih. Kuzey Kıbrıs Türk Cumhuriyeti'nde Tören, Bayram ve Anma Günleri (in Turkish). Turkish Cypriot Association of Former Fighter.

...is missing. [3] Could someone add the year pls? Cinadon36 19:46, 11 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

@Cinadon36: 2007! --T*U (talk) 14:06, 17 September 2019 (UTC)Reply
Thanks![4] Cinadon36 13:43, 19 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

"In Reality No One Was Asleep" by Ismael Tansu

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Why is there no mention here of one of the most important sources on the history of the TMT--the book by Ismael Tansu. Tansu worked for the STK (Seferberlik Taktik Kurulu [Tactical Mobilization Committee]) in Turkey, under Brigadier General Daniş Karabelen. In his book he describes how he created the "Plan for Recapturing Cyprus" [Kıbrıs İstirdat Planı] which involved the creation of a “special warfare” organisation that would utilise the Turkish Cypriot population of Cyprus, but be led by Turkish army officers. (See Ismail Tansu, In Reality No One Was Asleep: A Secret Underground Organization, with State Support? TMT, translated by Ayhan Sutcuoglu [Afghanistan, n.d.]. Turkish Edition: Aslnda hic kimse uyumuyordu: TMT [Ankara 2001].) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nychtopouli (talkcontribs) 11:46, 16 November 2019 (UTC) Nychtopouli (talk) 11:49, 16 November 2019 (UTC)Reply