Talk:Typhoon Cobra

Todo

Without any structure I think it's still a stub... Jdorje 07:02, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

Well it has structure. So I think I can upgrade it to a start class. More in the storm history is also needed. íslenska hurikein #12_(samtal) 14:14, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Article name

I've moved this to Typhoon Cobra, given that the JTWC did not yet exist, "Typhoon of 1944" is way too vague (since there were obviously more typhoons in 1944), and this seems to be the next most common name for the storm. --Coredesat 22:50, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

I have no problem with the name change, but I'm glad you left the link to the old one, since the naming system did not exist at the time. It is possible that some survivors may remember the "Typhoon of 1944", and I first found it that way. Ask any American who was alive at the time if they heard about Typhoon Cobra and you would probably get a blank stare. Ask them about the typhoon of 1944 and they could tell you all about it. It was in the headlines for months, since it led to the court martial of Admiral William F. Halsey, Jr. If Adm. Halsey had lost his case and been permanently relieved of command, it may have taken much longer to win the war in the Pacific. The Japanese surrender was signed on the deck of Admiral Halsey's flagship, USS ''Missouri'', on 2 September 1945. General Douglas MacArthur asked to sign, as witnesses, the instrument of surrender, British Lieutenant General Arthur Ernest Percival and U.S. Lieutanant General Jonathan Mayhew WainrightIV]. My mother gave me my first name from the latter of these, after seeing his malnourished state from three years of captivity, even though his life-long nickname was "Skinny."

I steamed through the same seas during a typhoon in 1968 on the same type of vessel as the Spence, Fletcher class destroyer and a little larger than the Hull, and Monaghan, Farragut-class destroyer, aboard the USS Mullany (DD528) I had been told about the 800 lives lost in the "Typhoon of 1944." That was the night I looked into the face of God.--W8IMP 08:32, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Fires on Monterey

This article states Lt. Gerald Ford volunteered to take a fire team below decks. The USS Monterey (CVL-26) article also states Ford volunteered. The Gerald Ford article states - Captain Ingersoll (of the Monterey) ordered Ford to lead a fire brigade below. Driftwood87 (talk) 05:37, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

If your point is that you can't both volunteer and be ordered to do something, you. are. wrong. In fact, typically when volunteers are asked for, the next step is to give them orders.207.155.85.22 (talk) 01:34, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Court of Inquiry Admiral Halsey & Admiral Nimitz

Why no mention of the conclusion that Halsey was responsible, but it was decided not to take action against him, but in a later typhoon, it was recommended that be be relieved, but not acted on? This was after his nearly disastrous decision to leave the Battle off Samar to tiny escort task forces after taking nearly the entire fleet to chase a decoy force. Bachcell (talk) 20:39, 19 March 2010 (UTC) Article currently states "Admiral Nimitz, CINCPAC, in attendance at the court". This also later the same month. Must have been a very interesting Court of Inquiry. Wfoj3 (talk) 21:32, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

Removal of USS Anzio

USS Anzio should be removed from the list of damaged ships as 1) there is no evidence that she was repaired due to this typhoon and 2) she went to Iwo Jima directly after the typhoon. These points are confirmed by both the Wikipedia page of USS Anzio and testimony from a member of the crew.

Mrinck (talk) 23:31, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

However, she appears to have received some minor damage and loss of her aircraft complement. See

http://www.airgroup4.com/halsey.htm She is mentioned on page 200 of Halsey's Typhoon. We need to clarify what damage she actually took. We can modify her entry accordingly, but it does look like she was affected. Irondome (talk) 00:02, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

References

Source for pressure

No reliable source ever gave the explicit figure of 26.8 inHg (907 hPa). The lowest I could find in a rather extensive search was "below 27 inches" or below 914 hPa. Most sources quote the Dewey's figure of 27.30 inHg (924 hPa) and I think we should use that if sources can't be found for 26.8 inHg.--Jasper Deng (talk) 06:14, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Jasper Deng, I agree and i did change the lowest pressure from 907 hPa to 924 hPa with the most known sources pointing towards it. I also put a 140 knot estimate of the storm (not to the table, but for meteorological history) from NOAA HRD website and removed any mention of 120 knot wind gusts, as it was likely unsourced. SMB99thx my edits 05:57, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Damage to Fleet

It would be informative to know the size (and size breakdown) of the Fleet. It would put the losses in meaningful context which the article now (4.17.2022) lacks. I suggest a table: ship category, name & no., crew, damage sunk/major/minor, deaths, and perhaps aircraft total/(lost). (the total aircraft as well as the lost can be greater than the ship's capacity since they're mobile assets.) I'd also be interested in mention of similar disasters as well as their consequences. Seems to me that Halsey should have been court martialed, but perhaps there's no precedents?207.155.85.22 (talk) 01:47, 18 April 2022 (UTC)