Talk:USA Indoor Track and Field Championships

Requested move 12 March 2020

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Relisted twice with no consensus resulting, default to not moved. buidhe 05:54, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

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USA Track & Field Indoor Championships → ? – The article base for this competition is split between USA Track & Field Indoor Championships and USA Indoor Track and Field Championships following moves from User:Infinite mission last year and there hasn't been any significant discussion on this topic to decide what the common name is.

The organising body USA Track & Field does not appear to have a standard name for the competition and has called it USATF Indoor Championships, USA Indoor Track and Field Championships and USA Indoor Track & Field Championships among other names without indicating any as a specific brand change. Therefore I would suggest we ignore official naming and look to broader sources for guidance. Quoted search engine results in order of frequency of term:

• "USATF Indoor Championships" 124,000
• "USATF Indoor Track and Field Championships" 70,000
• "USATF Indoor Track & Field Championships" 39,000
• "USA Track and Field Indoor Championships" 33,000
• "US Indoor Track and Field Championships" 28,000
• "USA Indoor Track and Field Championships" 25,000
• "USA Indoor Track & Field Championships" 5000
• "USA Track & Field Indoor Championships" 4500 (current)
• "US Indoor Track & field Championships" 4000
• "US Track and field Indoor Championships" 1400

There are many names in use and I'm not personally invested in any of them, but I do think the article base should share a name. Given the current name is clearly a minority term, I suggest a move to USATF Indoor Championships based on the above results. SFB 20:08, 12 March 2020 (UTC) —Relisting.  — Amakuru (talk) 19:40, 8 April 2020 (UTC) —Relisting. buidhe 05:38, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

• The USA Outdoor Track and Field Championships is a traditional name since 1876. In the last year or so, USATF has publicized a variety of different names trying to promote their own name in the existence of the meet. We wikipedia has maintained that title as they have sold title sponsorship rights to companies like Mobile Oil and Toyota. I suspect similar confusion eminent with the Indoor Championships. I suggest we use the derivative of the sustaining title USA Indoor Track and Field Championships (note: "and" spelled out) established in 1906 for consistency and place proper redirects to the other variations, including when USATF comes up with a temporary title sponsor. COI notice; I am on the Executive Board of a USATF Association. My suggestion might go against the organization's commercial interest. I'm thinking in a more sustaining encyclopedic form. For the few who search under title sponsorship titles, we should appease them by also placing a redirect under the appropriate sponsored names for appropriate years. Trackinfo (talk) 23:14, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
  • For me the best choice would be US Indoor Athletics Championships just to match the other Country National Champinships (Google already returns 2,830 results) --Kasper2006 (talk) 10:27, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
    • I think Americans may protest just a little about that! SFB 18:48, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
  • It's a valid point that USATF cannot be a unifying name for the article as it has only been in existence since 1992, rather less time than this competition! On that basis I would support a move to the organisation-neutral name of USA Indoor Track and Field Championships. SFB 18:43, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

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