Talk:United States Court of Appeals for the Eleventh Circuit
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Edward Earl Carnes taking senior status, per us courts.gov
editCan't find an article confirming. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CarlCanton (talk • contribs) 13:52, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
Changed Tjoflat, appt by
editNobody goes to the column, "Appointed by" to see "operation of law." Tjoflat was appointed to the Court of Appeals by Ford. He was transferred to the 11th Circuit by the passage of the law creating the 11th Circuit. This should be handled by a footnote, as it was before. Federal judges are not appointed by laws. It is the wrong nomenclature, and it obscures meaningful information. Also, "operation of law" disagrees with the standard for the senior judges in the circuit: Fay ad Anderson--to say nothing of the 15 former judges who were reassigned. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CarlCanton (talk • contribs) 03:21, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
Why for God's sake would you intentionally try to make Wikipedia readers less informed? Someone has now listed each of the reassigned judges as "operation of law." This prevents the casual reader from determining which President appointed these judges. None of these judges was appointed via "operation of law." They were assigned by "operation of law." Before, there was a footnote that indicated that these judges were all reassigned through a law. My effort is always to render readers more informed. CarlCanton (talk) 00:32, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
I might add that the law establishing the 11th Circuit does not use the term "appointed" but "assigned." CarlCanton (talk) 00:48, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
Different appearance of names
editWhy are NOT Judges Barkett's & Pryor's Names outlined in Red (as are all the other current Judges of the Eleventh Circuit Court of Apppeal of the United States? --207.69.137.21 19:04, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
- All of the names are wikilinked. The articles for Judges Barkett and Pryor have been created, so Wikipedia colors those links in blue, while the articles for the other judges do not yet exist, so Wikipedia colors those links red.
Goldbold retirement
editJudge Goldbold has permanently retired. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.99.65.182 (talk • contribs) 17:56, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
Where is the listing for Judge Thomas Alonzo Clark? He was appointed by President Jimmy Carter in 1979 for the 5th Circuit and moved to the 11th Circuit until retirement in 1998 - I think. He was born in Atlanta in December 1920 and died in September 2005. He was my stepfather.
Table standardization
editPlease note and contribute to this discussion. Billyboy01 (talk) 23:11, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
Removing Pro Se Policies section
editI'm deleting the brief "Pro Se Policies" section. First, the section is justified as a departure from, e.g., the Tenth Circuit, but the truth is that the courts of appeals reach different conclusions of law and procedure on a large variety of questions; this alone does not make this purported procedural departure significant. We could publish tomes on how the Eleventh Circuit differs from other appellate courts on questions of law and procedure. Second, the hyperlink to the cited Eleventh Circuit decision--the one that underlies this section--is dead. Third, and most importantly, that decision is unpublished, which means that it has no precedential value in the Eleventh Circuit. In other words, if the supposed distinction between Eleventh and Tenth Circuit law depends on the Shivers case, then in fact no such distinction exists, since unpublished opinions are not binding. This confluence of inaccurate statements, dead links, and overall irrelevance merits removal of the section. -- H·G (words/works) 18:09, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
Appointed by
editWhen the column header says "Appointed by", you put the name of the president the judge was appointed by. This "operation of law" is meaningless to the reader, and the actual person with a footnote is sufficient and more useful. If this is what you did to other articles you, they should also be returned to their original, consistent format. Both LacrimosaDiesIlla and Cls98 sent thanks to my edit, if they care to chime in. Reywas92Talk 04:08, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
A possible way to present this would be for it to say "Ford/operation of law" but it makes no sense to simply exclude the person who appointed the judge in the appointed by column altogether. The long-standing version already mentioned the reassignment in the footnote; this terminology can be included there – or in the table itself – but not without the key relevant information. Reywas92Talk 23:50, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
seal may be wrong
editCompare with: https://www.ca11.uscourts.gov/sites/default/files/images/eleventh_appellate_court_seal.png Natcolley (talk) 20:45, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
I am now even more certain that the seal is wrong. It is instead the seal of the 11th Cir. Historical Society, and was modified to replace 'historical society' with the court itself. SEE: https://sites.google.com/site/circuit11history/home Natcolley (talk) 01:50, 10 August 2021 (UTC)