Talk:Queen Victoria/GA2

GA Review

• References needed:
  • "However, the Melbourne ministry would not stay in power for long;..."
  • "Albert became not only the Queen's companion, but also an important political advisor, replacing Lord Melbourne as the dominant figure in the first half of her life."
  • "The shooting had no effect on the Queen's health nor on her pregnancy and the first of the royal couple's nine children, named Victoria, was born on 21 November 1840."
  • "The story of their relationship was the subject of the 1997 movie Mrs. Brown."
• For reference "Giles St. Aubyn (1992). Queen Victoria. Hodder & Stoughton, p. 14-199. ISBN 978-0340571095." please specify the individual pages rather than using a page range that spans more than a hundred pages; the reason is so that people don't have to flip through all those pages to find the one that the citation uses
• remove self referential comments such as "See also Victoria (disambiguation).[2]"
• "Further reading" last name ascending order

Gary King (talk) 06:10, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Referenced the above, I've made the refs more specific too... I'm pretty sure that they are correct, but are from my notes, as I no longer have the books, so tiny possibility that they aren't perfect. Taken out the self referential bits. All that's left on that list is the organisation of the Further Reading bit... I'll do that tomorrow, unless someone else fancies it. – Toon^(talk) 01:17, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

That part should be done now. Nergaal (talk) 02:27, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

En dashes for page ranges. Gary King (talk) 02:37, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Looks like Nergaal's taken care of it. – Toon^(talk) 12:14, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

• Remove the non-existent category "Empresses of India"
• "# Her bridesmaids were the Ladies Adelaide Paget, Sarah Child Villiers, Frances Cowper, Elizabeth West, Mary Grimston, Eleanora Paget, Caroline Gordon-Lennox, Elizabeth Howard, Ida Hay, Catherine Stanhope, Jane Pleydell-Bouverie and Mary Howard" is mostly red links; consider unlinking most of those
• "Biographical details" can surely be converted to prose. It's mostly bulleted points right now.
• The navbox in " Ancestry" should be moved to the bottom with the others
• Remove period from image captions that are not full sentences, such as "Queen Victoria and Prince Albert in a photograph taken in 1854 before an evening Court."

Gary King (talk) 21:50, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

I've addressed all of the above, with the exception of the "Ancestry" bit. I think it's more encyclopaedic than a standard navbox, and it seems to be the standard to have it in the main body; if you look at the FAs William III of England, George I of the United Kingdom, William IV of the United Kingdom and even Edward III of England - it seems to be the convention in modern monarchs whose liniage is known. I hope that's OK with you  :) Oh, and I'm probably going to be without internet access for the next few days at least, so won't be able to address other concerns - but I'm sure Nergaal will. Best, – Toon^(talk) 22:52, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

I should also say that I integrated most of the "biographical" info a few days ago, but my browser went wonky so I couldn't remove the remaining section. It was just a trivia section dressed as lamb. – Toon^(talk) 22:59, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

I was wondering where did that go. And you are right; what is not already in the article now was simply trivia. Ah, and one more thing: I really like how the article is starting to look. Nergaal (talk) 01:50, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

• the following reference is dead: "A Royal Icon - The Machin Stamp"

the HTML version still seems to be working, I've changed the link. – Toon^(talk) 09:19, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

• disambiguate: stillborn, Radicals, Victoria Day
• numbers from 0–9 should be spelt out, such as in "Victoria outlived 3 of her 9 children, and came within seven months of outliving a fourth (her eldest daughter, Vicky, who died of spinal cancer in August 1901 aged 60. She outlived 11 of her 42 grandchildren (two stillborn, six as children, and three as adults), and 3 of her 88 great-grandchildren."
• the following images should be moved to the Commons; WP:MITC should help you there: Image:Queen Victoria -Golden Jubilee -3a cropped.JPG, Image:Victoriatothrone.jpg, Image:Queen Victoria Albert 1854.JPG, Image:Victoria Coin.jpg, Image:Queen Victoria -Diamond Jubilee -1 cropped.JPG, Image:AU Queen Victoria Bldg-stat.jpg, Image:Q Victoria in bangalore.JPG
• "([16th July 1842])" in the references – is this broken?

nope Nergaal (talk) 05:52, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

What do the single square brackets represent...? Gary King (talk) 14:34, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

• be consistent with multiple page numbers please; "p. 161–165" should be "pp. 161–165" like the others
• "24 May 1819–20 June 1837" → "24 May 1819 – 20 June 1837"
• the em dashes in the article are spaced when they should not be; either use spaced en dashes or unspaced em dashes

Gary King (talk) 03:36, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Outside the dead ref and the images I believe I've solved everything. I am not sure how to solve the ref though. Nergaal (talk) 05:58, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

• "the grandmother of Europe." → "the grandmother of Europe". per WP:PUNC (move the period outside the quotes; happens several times in the article)

Gary King (talk) 14:34, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

ok Nergaal (talk) 21:49, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

• Formatting is used strangely in the article. For example, why is "Regency Act 1830" italicized?

I am not sure to what are you referring, but I solved this specific example

• "; from" → ", from"

typo

• copyedit the article please. examples:
  • "The younger sons of George III did not expect to figure in the line of succession to the throne of Britain, and as such showed little interest in marriage, but when Princess Charlotte Augusta of Wales, the future George IV's only legitimate child and George III's only legitimate grandchild, died from post-natal complications in 1817 after delivering a stillborn son, although George III had twelve surviving children, there were no grandchild-heirs remaining." really long sentence
  • "Her godparents were The Prince Regent (her paternal uncle); the Russian Tsar (Alexander I, her fourth cousin (in whose honor she received her first name); The Princess Royal (her paternal aunt); and The Dowager Duchess of Saxe-Coburg-Saalfeld (her maternal grandmother). " → the semicolons can be converted to commas as there aren't any other uses for commas in that sentence

Used ; because it is a really long sentence. Nergaal (talk) 07:02, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

• • "the Throne" → "the throne" – "throne" seems to be capitalized throughout the article, but I think it should be lowercased?
  • Does "(The fourth child of George III, Charlotte, Princess Royal, though not in line for the throne before her brothers, had died in 1828.)[8]" really need to be in parenthesis?
  • "Although William IV was the father of ten illegitimate children by his mistress, the actress Dorothy Jordan, he had no surviving legitimate children." – "although" probably not the best word to link the two clauses, since just because he had illegitimate children doesn't mean he would or would not have legitimate children

Gary King (talk) 22:01, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

How do the changed versions read? Nergaal (talk) 07:08, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

bump Nergaal (talk) 22:11, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

bumpiest bump! Nergaal (talk) 18:26, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Passing Gary King (talk) 18:58, 26 September 2008 (UTC)