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editThis article is or was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Skmatth.
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Darn it!
editThe 1989 photos of Dumbo and The Sword in the Stone are in the 1990 section. TobytheTramEngine 16:34, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
Well, or course they are. They are 1989 versions, and these may look like them, but the 1989 version said "Walt Disney's" and the title was in different font and color. So, the version's uploaded here are from 1990. Skymac207 21:36, 12 October 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.227.79.129 (talk)
Those versions with the "WALT DISNEY'S" and "DISNEY'S" headings were just made for the ad, so these artworks really are from 1989. Gabrielkat 01:45, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
Oh no!
editSomeone replaced the Bambi image with an original Pinocchio poster image! TobytheTramEngine 05:07, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
Something's very wrong with the image. Can someone help fixing the Bambi image? TobytheTramEngine 07:30, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
I guess it's a glitch. TobytheTramEngine 07:32, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
Covers
editSince most photos keep getting deleted, can I remove all of them? TobytheTramEngine 17:22, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
I guess I can't because it will make everyone who views the article miss all of the covers. TobytheTramEngine 18:17, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
Disney Previews
editI reverted it because I felt it's not constructive. I tried to warn the IP but I was mixed up because of the templates' names. Or is it shall I carefully read them? TobytheTramEngine 18:10, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
However, Wikipedia is not the place for Disney previews. Or is it? TobytheTramEngine 21:26, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
Fair use rationale for Image:Fantasiafront.jpg
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Fair use rationale for Image:PeterPan1990cover.PNG
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Sorry
editI can't undo the edit about phony releases to Dumbo, The Sword in the Stone and Alice in Wonderland because I'm afraid a vandal will undo it. TobytheTramEngine (talk) 15:41, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
They are not phony! Dumbo was on VHS in 1991 to celebrate the film's 50th anniversary, which was in theaters October 23, 1941, which is Wednesday in 1991 & nothing ever happens Wednesday. The nearest release date towards that date is September 20, 1991, the same day The Rescuers Down Under came out, so the 1991 VHS of Dumbo came out that date. According to Canadiana's talk page, Fantasia dropped out of print December 20, 1991 & I discovered a Chistmas VHS from 1991 on eBay, so that means the glitch copy of Fantasia came out December 24, 1991, which was the same day that the 1991 edition of The Sword in the Stone came out, as a platinum release. Alice in Wonderland was also on VHS in 1991 to celebrate the film's 40th anniversary, which was in theaters July 28, 1951, which is Sunday in 1991 & as everyone knows, there's nothing open or anything happening on Sunday. The nearest release date towards that date is July 19, 1991, the same day "White Fang" came out that day, as identified here at http://cgi.ebay.com/White-Fang-1991-VHS_W0QQitemZ260161221117QQihZ016QQcategoryZ309QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem, exactly a week after the 1991 Robin Hood VHS came out, which means that the 40th anniversary edition of Alice in Wonderland came out on the same day "White Fang" came out. There you have it. Skymac207 12:45, 4 December 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.244.63.242 (talk)
- "nothing ever happens Wednesday." FYI, the current norm of Tuesday video and CD releases didn't begin until the mid-late 90s. Prior to that, Wednesday was the industry standard, which was set early in the mid-1990s. And before that, it was anybody's game. I've been in the video biz since 1986; back then, and until the Wednesday shift, a week could see five major video releases, one on every day of the week.PacificBoy 02:00, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
Stop!
editNo more phony releases like Dumbo released on September 20, 1991, The Sword in the Stone released on December 24, 1991 and Alice in Wonderland released on July 19, 1991, as I would call them The Phony King of England. TobytheTramEngine 21:29, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
(imitating Lugi from the YouTube Poop video "YOU DARE BRING SPAGHETTI TO MY LAIR?!") No, YOU are "The Phony King of England"! Skymac207 17:10, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
- Your behavior is unacceptable. That is not the conduct of a Wikipedian. TobytheTramEngine 04:00, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, and those releases came out on the same day as "The Jungle Book"! So there! Gabrielkat 03:59, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Archive 4
editI have a feeling that all of the discussions should be moved to a fourth archive of this article. How do I do it? TobytheTramEngine 18:41, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
- See Help:Archiving a talk page. I created and moved some older discussions to archive 4 Garion96 (talk) 22:28, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Images
editSorry if I have to say this, but the images really did fail NFCC. TobytheTramEngine (talk) 21:28, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
- They really do. This is just decorative use. Garion96 (talk) 22:24, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
- Oh, I see. Mind if I remove them for that reason? I now realized that fair use images can't be used just to decorate an article. TobytheTramEngine (talk) 05:48, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
- Please do. Garion96 (talk) 07:48, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
- I just did. If anyone else reverts the edit, I'll let you know. TobytheTramEngine (talk) 22:25, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
- Please do. Garion96 (talk) 07:48, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
- Oh, I see. Mind if I remove them for that reason? I now realized that fair use images can't be used just to decorate an article. TobytheTramEngine (talk) 05:48, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Hey!
editI thought about changing the date for the 1991 VHS of "Dumbo to October 22, 1991 because according to the article about 1991, this date is Tuesday and everything always happens on Tuesday, and plus, it's one day before the film's 50th anniversary, as defined on the article about Dumbo. Same thing for "Alice in Wonderland", I'm listing that as July 23, 1991 because according to that article, it is Tuesday and six days before the film's 40th anniversary, as defined on the article about Alice in Wonderland 18:05, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
- Uh, no. Sorry, definitely not. TobytheTramEngine (talk) 00:56, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
Well, I was thinking to myself maybe everyone's right, maybe it didn't come out on July 19 or September 20, so I thought of July 23 and October 22 because they're Tuesday and everything always happen on Tuesday, plus they're even closer than July 19 or September 20. Skymac207 22:02, 12 December 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.75.97.19 (talk)
- Sorry, do not add it, even if it is reverted. Please go here. TobytheTramEngine (talk) 05:19, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
1991-50=1941 and 1991-40=1951, it must be that date. Skymac207 16:10, 13 December 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.75.97.19 (talk)
- Still, no. TobytheTramEngine (talk) 21:13, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
Answers.com say so. Skymac207 13:04, 20 December 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.75.97.19 (talk)
- Still, no. Also, I don't think Answers.com is a reliable source. TobytheTramEngine (talk) 22:06, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
- Answers.com is a mirror of Wikipedia; information there was here first. Master of Puppets Care to share? 02:07, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
I don't care if it's non-sourcable, I know it's those dates. Skymac207 18:43, 20 December 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.75.97.19 (talk)
- Your edit has been reverted. Please go here. TobytheTramEngine (talk) 05:06, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
I'm telling you, it is those dates! Do the math, 1991-50=1941 and 1991-40=1951, and they always do anniversaries at 5, 10, 15, 20, 25, 30, and so on. Skymac207 16:38, 21 December 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.75.97.19 (talk)
Once again, I highly doubt that those dates are correct. Gabrielkat (talk) 05:26, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
It's either that or September 20 or July 19. I was thinking it couldn't be September 20 or July 19 because their not close to their anniversaries as October 22 and July 23 are. October 22 is just one day before the film's 50th anniversary and July 23 is just five days before the film's 40th anniversary. So, instead of September 20 or July 19, it was probably October 22 and July 23. Skymac207 17:29, 24 December 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.75.129.239 (talk)
- Sorry, permanently no. TobytheTramEngine (talk) 01:21, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
IMBECILE! WHAT PART OF "ANNIVERSARY" DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND?! Skymac207 20:52, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
- No personal attacks like that, ok? Please be civil. Discuss it with other editors. Master of Puppets Care to share? 02:07, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
(imitating Peter Griffin from the Family Guy episode Model Misbehavior) Get out, get out of this house! (punches hole in wall) I said now! Skymac207 21:10, 29 December 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.75.129.239 (talk)
(imitating Ganon from the YouTube Poop video "You Dare Bring Spaghetti to My Lair?!") You dare bring up these so-called "anniversary dates"?! You must die! Gabrielkat (talk) 21:26, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
(imitating a Secret Missing Episode Using Speakonia) Hello my name is TVB and I am really really really an editor. And I want you both to stop fighting hahahahahahahahaha! That was a wiki! TVB (UTC)
Go away, TVB! (imitates the Beast from "Beauty and the Beast") You are not welcome here! Gabrielkat (talk) 02:43, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
(imitating Peter Griffin from the Family Guy episode Stewie Loves Lois) Well whatever happens, I'm not going to stand for this. It's either that or September 20 or July 19. I was thinking it couldn't be September 20 or July 19 because their not close to their anniversaries as October 22 and July 23 are. October 22 is just one day before the film's 50th anniversary and July 23 is just five days before the film's 40th anniversary. So, instead of September 20 or July 19, it was probably October 22 and July 23. Too many people get away with their justice, like the folks, who meet in the Louisana swamps. Skymac207 21:45, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
You know what! (imitating Dr. Robotnik from Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog) You took the words right out of my mouth. Stop fighting! *breaks the teeth* The release dates on video never ruin my schemes. Unless you edit.TVB (UTC)
- IMITATING SOMEONE WHO HAS BEEN WORKING IN THE VIDEO INDUSTRY FOR THE LAST 23 YEARS: Are you aware that from the late 1980s until about 1996-7, EVERYTHING WAS RELEASED ON A 'WEDNESDAY'? The industry-wide shift to Tuesday release dates didn't happen until the mid-1990s. And pinpointing exact dates based on days of the week is virtually impossible prior to about 1991, because there was no industry standard until then. Trust me, I've been doing this for damn near a quarter century, and I was on the scene when much of this went down.PacificBoy 02:07, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
A trailer for The Black Cauldron
editA trailer for "The Black Cauldron" is not part of the Black Diamond series from 1984-1994.
What about The Lion King (1994)?
editThis is not a Black Diamond title, it was part of the Walt Disney Masterpiece Collection line. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.147.198.171 (talk) 02:26, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
Plans for Improvement
editHello! I will be working on this article over the next few weeks as part of a Technical Editing class at Texas A&M University. I wanted to share what I am looking at working on and introducing myself before making any major edits.
Things to consider
edit- Needs to be copy edited
- The table of contents looks overwhelming
- "Prehistory" title could be changed
- The organization of the sub-subcategories under "North American release history" can have a different format to differentiate it from the timeline sub titles
- Some sections need a more informative title
- Has tags at the top of page
Plans
edit- copy edit
- edit titles
- reformat sub-subcategories
- reorganize table of contents
Please respond if you feel that there is anything else I should consider before beginning. Thank you!
Adding a table
editHello everyone! I think it would be beneficial to add a table of all the Walt Disney Classics films and their release dates. There will also be a section for "notes" for additional information. I think this will improve the page in order to consolidate a lot of information and streamlining the look of the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Skmatth (talk • contribs) 19:57, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
Walt Disney Masterpiece Collection
editNot all films released in this collection made it into the Walt Disney Masterpiece Collection. The seven exceptions are Pinocchio, The Rescuers Down Under, Fantasia, The Great Mouse Detective, Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin, and the Fox and the Hound. --Evope (talk) 07:26, 10 November 2018 (UTC)Evan Opedal
package film
editShould we add that Fantasia is the only package film in the Walt Disney Classics lineup? --Evope (talk) 21:07, 24 January 2019 (UTC)Evan Kalani Opedal
Hercules (1989 Walt Disney Feature Animation traditional cel animated film)
editThe success of old Walt Disney animated films Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs, Pinocchio, Fantasia, Bambi, Cinderella, Alice in Wonderland, Peter Pan, Lady and the Tramp, Sleeping Beauty, 101 Dalmatians, The Sword in the Stone, The Jungle Book, The Aristocats, Robin Hood and The Rescuers were re-released in theatres in the 1980s, along with new Walt Disney animated films The Fox and the Hound, The Black Cauldron, The Great Mouse Detective, Oliver & Company and The Little Mermaid were released in theatres in the 1980s, Hercules was never released in theatres in 1989. Dumbo, The Three Caballeros, Fun and Fancy Free and The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh were released on VHS in 1981 (For Sale Only, Not Intended for Rental), because Saludos Amigos, Make Mine Music, Melody Time, The Adventures of Ichabod & Mr. Toad and The Aristocats were never released on VHS in 1981.
Hercules came out in theatres in 1997, and it came out on VHS and Laserdisc in 1998 as part of the Walt Disney Masterpiece Collection line from 1994-1999. Hercules is just look like Fantasia, The Three Caballeros, Saludos Amigos, Make Mine Music, Melody Time, Fun and Fancy Free, The Adventures of Ichabod & Mr. Toad and The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh.
The last traditional cel animated film produced by Walt Disney Feature Animation to be first theatrical release in the 1980s was The Little Mermaid and Fantasia was first released on VHS and Laserdisc in late 1991 as part of the Walt Disney Classics line from 1984-1994, because The Three Caballeros, Saludos Amigos, Make Mine Music, Melody Time, Fun and Fancy Free, The Adventures of Ichabod & Mr. Toad and The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh were never made in the Walt Disney Classics line. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.147.18.244 (talk) 16:04, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
Vandalism
editThe table here is a victim to vandalism. The dates are clearly wrong. Would someone please correct them? 2600:1702:2C60:A60:7841:D7B3:1211:E326 (talk) 20:45, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
The Rescuers
editPotentially 7,000,000 copies of The Rescuers were sold. My problem is that the only readable source for me is a blog, the other is from Newspaperarchive.com which requires you to sign in. The newspaper im looking for is here: [1]. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 14:00, 29 May 2024 (UTC)