Talk:Water supply and sanitation in China

Merger proposal

The three articles Water supply and sanitation in the People's Republic of China, Chinese water crisis‎, and Water resources of the People's Republic of China all discuss water resources, shortages, and responses. There are no clear boundaries between them. Therefore I propose they should be merged to this article. There are numerous articles titled "Water supply and sanitation in... " for other nations so this seems to be the preferred title for these issues. Academica Orientalis (talk) 23:22, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

• Very strong OPPOSE. This is a second irrational merge suggestion from you. All three articles are notable in their own right. Also, have a read of WP:Other stuff exists. -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 23:53, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

Water pollution and shortages is discussed in all three articles. How do we avoid duplication? What material should go into what article? Academica Orientalis (talk) 01:48, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

See WP:SUMMARYSTYLE. -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 02:19, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

That is not really helpful here. Which is proper article in which to have the main discussion of, say, pollution of Chinese rivers from municipal sources? Academica Orientalis (talk) 02:39, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

At a Water pollution in China article but since it does not exist it should be at Pollution in China. -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 02:45, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

But this pollution is an important aspect of all of the three articles mentioned above. Or to take another example, which is the main article for discussing the water shortage? Academica Orientalis (talk) 02:56, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

Which is exactly why there is a need for a Water pollution in China article. The Chinese water crisis‎ is for discussing water shortages. -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 03:00, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

Water shortages are obviously part of Water resources also. Sanitation directly affects pollution. Pollution directly affects available water resources. Academica Orientalis (talk) 03:08, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

Maybe I can help in moving this discussion in a more constructive way. In my view, Chinese water crisis and Water resources of the PRC should be merged into one article, but Water supply and sanitation in the PRC should remain a separate article. Why? (Drinking) water supply and sanitation is an activity carried out by utilities. Physically it covers the water cycle from the point of abstraction (well, river intake) to the point of discharge (into a river, a lake, the sea etc.). Water resources obviously is much broader. It covers the water cycle from when the rain hits the ground to when the rivers join the sea. The two topics are interrelated, but it is quite common among professional to draw a line between water supply and sanitation on the one hand and water resources (management) on the other. Of course there can, and indeed should, be a small summary of each article in the other one, with a "For more details see" reference to the main article. Water pollution, in my view, is a sub-topic of water resources (management). It deserves an article of its own, but a summary of it and a reference to it could be includes in both the water resources article and the water supply and sanitation article. I hope that this helps.--Mschiffler (talk) 07:19, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

Seems like good suggestions. I suggest concentrating on improving and adding material to the Water resources article for now. If there is enough material specifically about pollution then a separate article for that can be created. Academica Orientalis (talk) 21:07, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

As per above, I have moved all the material in the water crises article to the water resource article and will change that article to a redirect. Removing the other merge suggestions and templates. Academica Orientalis (talk) 23:27, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

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