Talk:Whitby

Latest comment: 6 months ago by Random noter in topic Writing style
Good articleWhitby has been listed as one of the Geography and places good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
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August 12, 2011Peer reviewReviewed
October 28, 2011Good article nomineeListed
Current status: Good article

Semi-protection

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I have semi-protected the article due to ongoing vandalism. Semi-protection prevents edits from unregistered users (IP addresses), as well as edits from any account that is not autoconfirmed (is at least four days old and has ten or more edits to Wikipedia) or confirmed. IP and new users can request edits to a semi-protected page by proposing them on its talk page, using the {{Edit semi-protected}} template if necessary to gain attention. New users may also request the confirmed user right by visiting Requests for permissions. SilkTork ✔Tea time 11:24, 20 October 2011 (UTC)Reply


Can this article be un-semi-protected? Article has been semi-protected for quite awhile from what I can tell (2011). I would like to make an addition to the Literature section to include the novella titled "Whitby".— Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.46.113.120 (talkcontribs) 08:04, 27 March 2013‎
Did you by any chance see the section above about semi protection? Creating an account and becoming autoconfirmed will let you edit. If for some reason you don't want to create an account you could post it to the talk page and ask another editor to add it to the article. While this isn't exactly what you were asking for I hope this helps. Thanks Fraggle81 (talk) 17:49, 27 March 2013 (UTC)Reply


I don't like articles being protected from editing, however, thist article - perhaps because of Whitby's association with Dracula - attracts a fair bit of harmful edits. Protection had been previously placed, then lifted, and had to be placed again. It is unfortunate, but some articles are best left protected. In addition, this is a Good Article, and is in decent shape. As Fraggle says, people can register an account, or make an edit suggestion on this page. SilkTork ✔Tea time 07:15, 6 April 2013 (UTC)Reply


Semi-protected edit request 24 October 2018

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The lead is over-long, resulting in the TOC being too-far downstream. Suggest a new simple heading ==Overview== be inserted after the second sentence, ending in "... of the North Riding of Yorkshire".

This would align the lengthy TOC with the similar-proportioned infobox, reducing the wsp. I have read the Talk section relating to protection since 2011. Thanks.--86.29.222.228 (talk) 14:06, 24 October 2018 (UTC)Reply

As a post-script to the above message, I was/am driving by with an interest only in the two railway stations which I found buried under the 'Transport' heading with substantial paragraph(s) containing many sentences but with the necessary internal links; sub-headings for ===Road=== and ===Rail=== would not be a detriment, excepting the addition to the TOC-length.

SilkTork may wish to reconsider if seven-year/ongoing protection assumes too much BF.--86.29.222.228 (talk) 13:22, 25 October 2018 (UTC)Reply

I'll look into unprotecting after Halloween. SilkTork (talk) 14:50, 25 October 2018 (UTC)Reply
The lead is a bit untidy and needs tightening, but it is not too long. See WP:Lead for some information on the purpose of the lead, and a guidance as to length (MOS:LEADLENGTH). The lead serves as as a shorter version of the full article, highlighting the main points. Most readers only read the lead because all they want is a quick overview of the topic. Cutting the lead after the second sentence would reduce the lead to something very unhelpful and would frustrate 90% of those visiting the page.
The Transport section is not long enough to justify having sub-sections. That would inhibit flow and readability for the majority of readers. See MOS:BODY.
Thanks for raising these issues in this edit request, but on examination the requests do not follow Wikipedia guidelines, so are not being implemented. SilkTork (talk) 15:07, 25 October 2018 (UTC)Reply
Thank you SilkTork. I am very well aware of the purpose of the lead as a snapshot of what is to follow, and I was only suggesting a break-point due to some of the following content being inappropriate (over-detailed), IMO, viz:

The earliest record of a permanent settlement is in 656, when as Streanæshealh it was the place where Oswy, the Christian king of Northumbria, founded the first abbey, under the abbess Hilda. The Synod of Whitby was held there in 664. In 867, the monastery was destroyed by Viking raiders. Another monastery was founded in 1078.

As I was passing- through only, I did not propose to undertake a lengthy evaluation, or trawl though the history to identify those editors responsible, neither do I want to write or adjust the prose under the circumstances now confirmed. --86.29.222.228 (talk) 13:08, 31 October 2018 (UTC)Reply

I chanced upon Otley which has a sensibly-sized intro, with appropriate sub-sections close below.--86.29.222.228 (talk) 23:26, 10 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

Religion on https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitby

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Can there be some input on to here? After the non conformist part, can Hope Whitby be added? Here is their website Www.hopewhitby.co.uk they are very active within the town. Thanks Coatesy83 (talk) 07:01, 22 April 2019 (UTC)Reply

Semi-protected edit request on 30 April 2020

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reckon there should be a short bit added on the subject of its famous fish and chips. Toastus Mostus (talk) 23:58, 30 April 2020 (UTC)Reply

  Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. JTP (talkcontribs) 00:21, 1 May 2020 (UTC)Reply

Semi-protected edit request on 23 January 2021Whitby Now created by local musician Mark Liddell

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Kramlleddil (talk) 20:30, 23 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
  Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Bestagon ⬢ 22:21, 23 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

Political composition

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The table of political composition is wrong. None of the councillors stood for election with party affiliation, and none of them sit with party affiliation. While you can do background research to discover if individuals happen to be members of parties - and those numbers are actually wrong - the presentation gives a false representation that the members of the town council are there on the town council as members with party affiliations. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.96.251.164 (talkcontribs) 00:42, 6 July 2021 (UTC)Reply

Vampyre Labyrinth by G.P. Taylor - its story is also based in Whitby

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It would be great if you would add more literature information about Whitby, which is a town full of history. Under the descriptions in RedEye of Vampyre Labyrinth series, by G.P. Taylor, Whitby is a town which is full of traditions, rumors about vampires and superstitions. The book successfully creates the mystery atmosphere which is essential to vampire stories. 202.153.9.149 (talk) 01:14, 20 December 2022 (UTC)Reply

G. P. Taylor is mentioned in the Literature section of this article. Do you have any reliable sources...? The joy of all things (talk) 08:59, 20 December 2022 (UTC)Reply
yes - can refer to the book in Google Book:
https://books.google.com.hk/books/about/Vampyre_Labyrinth_RedEye.html?id=DIZRKrcwwWUC&redir_esc=y
Starting from Chapter 2. 202.153.9.149 (talk) 03:50, 21 December 2022 (UTC)Reply
202.153.9.149 Thanks, but not really. Essentially, we need it to state Whitby specifically, so a page number and ISBN is needed (the ISBN is easy), the page number, less so. However, we really need a secondary or tertiary source for this, as the book itself is a primary source. Better, would be a review of the book that states it is set in Whitby, the page you have linked just mentions "The Yorkshire Coast" (see Wikipedia:PRIMARYCARE). Regards. The joy of all things (talk) 10:09, 21 December 2022 (UTC)Reply

Semi-protected edit request on 8 June 2023

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The Town Mayor of Whitby is now Cllr Robert Dalrymple. There are now 19 town councillors (not 16) listed on the cited page (https://www.whitbytowncouncil.gov.uk/councillors.html). Their political make-up is not shown. CaedmonOfWhitby (talk) 09:48, 8 June 2023 (UTC)Reply

  Not done. Hello @CaedmonOfWhitby, and thank you for your edit request. In order for em to add this, I'd need you to state exactly, word per word, what should be replaced (in a change x by y format), and where. Thanks! Cocobb8 (talk) 15:47, 8 June 2023 (UTC)Reply

Semi-protected edit request on 22 October 2023

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Whitby Lifeboat Station now has a Shannon Class All Weather Lifeboat called the RNLB Lois Ivan, that replaced the Trent Class 2.30.237.74 (talk) 09:21, 22 October 2023 (UTC)Reply

  Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Paper9oll (🔔📝) 09:31, 22 October 2023 (UTC)Reply
  Done - added with local news source as citation. EdwardUK (talk) 14:03, 22 October 2023 (UTC)Reply

Writing style

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No changes requested. But I do want to praise the subheads in the historical material. Especially "Blubber, Cook and Dissolution". That is an odd title, uniting disparate elements over centuries, and not even in chronological order, and yet I think should remain forever. If style and humour are to be any element of Wikipedia headings, that is a brilliant example. It also sounds like a Dickensian law firm. Kudos to whoever came up with it. Random noter (talk) 14:39, 29 April 2024 (UTC)Reply