Talk:William Hackett (priest)

Requested move 16 March 2022

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The result of the move request was: no consensus. Since the article was recently moved to the current title without discussion, I'm moving it back to its previous stable title in the absence of consensus. Colin M (talk) 18:44, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

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William Hackett (Jesuit) → William Hackett (priest) – There was an undiscussed move in February that probably should have be discussed. The term "priest" is more specific than just labeling him as a Jesuit, since not all Jesuits are priests and his priesthood is likely more defining than being in the Society of Jesus. — Mhawk10 (talk) 07:18, 16 March 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. NW1223 <Howl at me•My hunts> 15:39, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

• Support per nom.--Ortizesp (talk) 01:22, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose. Contrary to what is written above, ‘Jesuit’ is more specific than priests. I noticed that in most similar cases of disambiguation the word ‘Jesuit’ is preferred to ‘priest’. His career (Clongowes Wood, Milltown Park, etc) is not understandable if he were not a Jesuit, including his moving to Australia and becoming rector of yet another Jesuit institution. If no discussion was initiated before the change was made it is because both ’priest’ and Jesuit’ are indeed correct. There is no problem or controversy on that: just a point of clarity and following what seems to be a convention on Wikipedia.--Zerged (talk) 08:09, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose. In my experience as a Catholic seminarian and one who spent time around many Jesuits, being a Jesuit (or a member of any Catholic order) is more defining to a member than their priesthood. In fact, seniority is based solely on when a novice (or scholastic, in this case) makes his vows, meaning a brother who professed in 1999 will get the last slice of ham at dinner over the priest who professed in 2000. My two cents. Gamle Kvitrafn (talk) 18:29, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
• Weak support: Per WP:NCPDAB, Wikipedia generally prefers "commonly used tags" that are "recognizable and highly applicable", like "(politician)" and "(musician)" rather than "(mayor)" and "(cellist)". It seems like "priest" is more familiar, more recognizable and more commonly used than "Jesuit", at least for most people. Wikipedia also generally tries to avoid using capitalized disambiguators. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 22:45, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

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