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This article is confusing. Do you mean world championships for countries or for professional teams? You have the FIBA basketball championship for countries but then don't have the soccer World Cup. -- 70.27.57.22 04:35, 8 October 2005 what about figure skating? (UTC)
Olympic title
editThe winning of an olympic title is not the same as a world championship. I do feel Olympic events should be removed unless they are recognised as a world championship by say that sports governing body. (Darmech (talk) 19:13, 13 February 2015 (UTC))
NWA - Pro wrestling
editI noticed that the NWA, World Championships are separated by weight divisions, just like boxing, where in they have a World Heavyweight Champion, World Light Heavyweight Champion, World Middleweight Champion, and even a Midget's world title. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.1.61.200 (talk) 00:41, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
UFWC
editThe Unofficial Football World Championships page here is largely my baby. I'd just like to say how pleased I am that this has been allowed to be included on this list. Thanks
- Ahkayah cuarenta y siete 22:26, 8 October 2005 (UTC)(Currently hoping that my message wont backfire, by sending people of to that page and slapping {{vfd}} on it!!)
Move
editThis page should be at "World championship" in line with Wikipedia's capitalisation policy. Choalbaton 02:20, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
world championship / world cup
editI have reverted the merge with world cup. This is because some sports have both. For example in athletics (track and field) and canoe racing, the world cup refers to a series of prestigious, but "normal" international meets through the year, whereas world championship refers to the once a year top event. In football (soccer) the world cup is the top prize (effectively the world championship) but in some sports world championships are different, separate events, superior to the world cup. Jameswilson 01:16, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, you're quite correct; but that's what the new World cup article is out to explain, that World Cups and World Championships are sometimes different things, sometimes contested in the same sports, and sometimes subject to different rules. The list of world cups and world championships is there to provide the disambiguation potential of both the original World Cup and World Championship articles, streamlining the whole process, allowing the World Cup and World Championship articles, which - save for their lists - were practically identical, to be in one place. It lets people learn about what is a World Cup or a World Championship, two very related concepts; or where necessary find the world cup or championship they're looking for, sooner. That's why I merged. Erath 22:17, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
- OK,, go ahead, but please bear in mind that with the football World Cup on next month,, most people who search for World Cup at the moment want to go straight to the 2006 World Cup in Germany, so we need to keep an easy route for them. Jameswilson 22:22, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
- Done. A new disambiguation header on World cup sends readers right there. Erath 22:28, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
- OK - what a model of amicable dispute resolution! Jameswilson 00:14, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
United States
editSomething should be written to the effect that many champions from tournaments in the United States claim to be "World Champions" for example the NBA Champions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.15.127.253 (talk) 19:16, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
On that note
editWhile nation vs. nation competition may be the "gold standard" for association football, this isn't true of all sports. I'll use baseball as an example. The World Baseball Classic is going to start in a few months, and several players from Major League Baseball have announced their inentions not to compete because they don't want to risk injury and miss time away from the MLB season. They would rather sit out of an international tournament than risk missing a few regular season games (out of a 162 game season).Mustang6172 (talk) 08:28, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
Games
editThis page seems fairly muddled when it comes to defining the lists of World Championships of which there is a second page for sports. The question is what are the inclusion criteria for an event to make these lists? Is it supposed to be fully inclusive of any World Championship reported on wikipedia? I am not sure that any but the most notable events should appear on this list and other events should be sub-categorised into fuller lists. With the inclusion of eating and performance arts. Clearly, there are major events such as Chess World Championships that are more significant than some events currently on the list. I would suggest that a games subheading is added to the list. And that a long-term aim is to break the list into separate pages so that major international events don't get confused with minor events in notable sports. Tetron76 (talk) 17:01, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
- Added section and new page Mind sports world championship — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tetron76 (talk • contribs) 12:26, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
Original research, possible POV issues, and the lack of reliable sources in the article
editThis article is making a blanket statement about world championships including a definition covering all sports without the use of any reliable sources. The intro to the article may require a substantial re-write in order to meet Wikipedia's standards. For example, it states that the world championship is the "top achievement of any sport or contest." However, the article has many of the sports listing multiple world championships so how can all of them be the top achievement? Holyfield1998 (talk) 11:31, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
- One egregious example of WP:OR in this article is the section on most successful athletes in each sport. Let's look at tennis. It lists the ATP World Tour Finals as the "world championship." Where are the references for this? Who determined this? Certainly not the ATP which never states that the ATP World Tour Finals are a world championship. Based on the definition of world championship in this article, it would be the highest achievement in the sport, except it isn't. Each and every one of the slams rank higher in prestige and in ATP ranking points than the ATP World Tour Finals. Additionally, there are no gold medals, bronze, or silver medals given out at the World Tour Finals. Lastly, I don't think anyone with basic tennis knowledge would consider Ivan Lendl as the most successful athlete in the sport of tennis. It appears that for the most part, the majority of this article is synthesis and original research. Holyfield1998 (talk) 02:18, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
- maybe some info of some sport in this enormous table is wrong, you can fix it, it is wikipadia, and thankz for your colaboration.--Feroang (talk) 03:18, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
I'm the author. I don't think that this is an original research because the data collected are objective for every sport. The table will be updated and if there are errors must be corrected. --Kasper2006 (talk) 18:07, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
- In Tennis there isn't a World Championships, but the ATP World Tour Finals can be considered such as, but if so you do not seem it, we can eliminated the Tennis from sports who have a world championship, it's easy. ;-) For other sports I don't see the problem, for example it is entirely objective (certainly not original research) that no one has won more World Championships than Sebastien Loeb. --Kasper2006 (talk) 18:10, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
- A world championship is a world championship. If a governing body discribes an event as a WC then a WC it is unless other bodies challenge it. Nothing can be considered a world championship unless it is called so. Also there are many more people who have won more world championships than Sebastian Loeb, without taking away the gentlemans amazing achievements.(Darmech (talk) 19:21, 13 February 2015 (UTC))
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Long Track Speed Skating
editWorld Championships should include the World Single Distance (500, 1000, 1500, 5000, 10000, team pursuit, and mass start for men; 500, 1000, 1500, 3000, 5000, team pursuit, and mass start for women), World Allround, and World Sprint Championships, as these are the World Championships organized by the International Skating Union. Morningperson7 (talk) 21:00, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
Merge from World cup competition
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World cup competition should merge (per WP:MERGE and WP:POVFORK to World championship; it's a duplicate topic, unencyclopedically singling out a subset of world championships based on "cup" being in their name. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ >ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ< 03:44, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
- Oppose, In many sports, World Cup (usually competed with more races of a season), and world championship (usually a single event) are different. Some examples in the following table.
--Kasper2006 (talk) 05:42, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
- And in other sports that's not the case. Some sports have multiple world championships (or cups or whatever), put on by different organizations. They're all the same general class of thing: top-tier, world-level competitions. All you're doing is highlighting how artificial the categorization is: now it's some sports with world cups that have multiple days of competition a different points in the season. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ >ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ< 03:36, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
- Oppose, as per Kasper2006 above. World Rowing Cup/ World Rowing Championships is another example. --David Biddulph (talk) 06:56, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
- THe fact that you can come up with some examples of the specific kind of world cup you have in mind doesn't make this any less artificial a split, but worse. All at least before it looked like you were trying to do a name-based WP:POVFORK, but now it's clearly just arbitrary. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ >ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ< 03:36, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
- Oppose per above. Wold cups are the subset of world sports competitions. But, maybe, merge to World Cup. 95.133.219.133 (talk) 10:11, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
- Why would we merge from the more general name to the one that only applies when the trophy is cup-shaped? — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ >ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ< 03:36, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
- I mean, merge World cup competition into World Cup and rename the merged article into World cup (similar to World championship). 95.133.219.133 (talk) 02:31, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
- Ah, yes, that makes sense, regardless of the idea of merging the cup and championship pages. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ >ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ< 09:00, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
- I mean, merge World cup competition into World Cup and rename the merged article into World cup (similar to World championship). 95.133.219.133 (talk) 02:31, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
- Why would we merge from the more general name to the one that only applies when the trophy is cup-shaped? — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ >ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ< 03:36, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
- Oppose They aren't the same. J 1982 (talk) 19:30, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
Sportsperson or athlete
editWe have a section header "Best sportsperson by sport" with subsections of Male, Female, Open, and Mixed. The Male table uses sportsperson while all others use athlete. Which one do we wish to standardize on? --Khajidha (talk) 14:23, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
- Use "sportsperson", because "athlete" as a synonym of this is largely an Americanism; is other dialects is often implies track and field only. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ >ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ< 09:02, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
- Done--Khajidha (talk) 15:16, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
Olympics?
editFencing men's lists best Olympic performer, while female World championhip. Maybe we should only use statistics performed in actual World Championships? Olympics are a different type of competition and they have their own statistics and medal counts. --Pelmeen10 (talk) 22:36, 22 January 2018 (UTC)