Talk:Wreck of the Titanic/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: DrKiernan (talk · contribs) 19:11, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

I enjoyed reading the article, especially the amusing asides and thought the tone was just right in terms of maintaining the reader's interest and providing information. I'm confident the article meets the coverage, neutrality and stability criteria.

Prose

1. "The wreck lies in two pieces": as the wreck is in more than two pieces this might be better as "The two largest pieces of the wreck lie" or "the wreck lies in two main pieces"
2. Should "its location and condition" be "her location and condition"?
3. Should "and contracted with the" be "and contracted the"?
4. Should "quantities of gases" be "quantities of gas"?
5. "Risdon Beazley Ltd" and "Seawise & Titanic Salvage Ltd" but "Seasonics International Limited": be consistent with either Ltd or Limited.

   I've done all of the above.Prioryman (talk)

6. I changed one instance of "floatation" to "flotation" but I see that it is a valid alternative spelling. I would advise standardisation to flotation as the common form.

   "Floatation" is the British spelling, isn't it? I wrote the article in British English. Looks like a WP:ENGVAR issue to me. Prioryman (talk) 23:53, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

7. Should "30°–45°" be "30–45°" in the same way as "1–2 °C (34–36 °F)"? Hmmn. Dunno.

   Works for me. I've made this change. Prioryman (talk) 23:53, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

8. Should "now laying on top" be "now lying on top"?

   Yes, but that entire passage shouldn't be there - someone else has added it. It's not in the cited source so I've taken it out. Prioryman (talk) 23:53, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

9. "Jack Grimm was invited to participate as an investor and did not form the company nor was he the driving force behind Marex-Titanic." Why are we told this? Should the "and" be a "but"?

   Again this seems to have been added by a third party without a citation, so I've removed it. Prioryman (talk) 23:53, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

10. I presume "Marex-Titanic was a subsidiary of Marex International and international marine salvage firm located in Memphis, TN." should be "Marex-Titanic was a subsidiary of Marex International, an international marine salvage firm located in Memphis, TN."?

    Correct, I've fixed this. Prioryman (talk) 23:53, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

11. Would "refused to grant comity and recognise the 1993 decision of the French administrator" be clearer as "refused to grant comity or recognise the 1993 decision of the French administrator" or "refused to grant comity, refused to recognise the 1993 decision of the French administrator"?

    Yes, I think it would be clearer with your first alternative. Done. Prioryman (talk) 23:53, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

12. I see no reason not to use "salvor" thoughout. The use of "salver" once jars when "salvor" is used elsewhere (in a quote, so it shouldn't be changed).

    It's a typo. A salver is a silver dish. :-) Prioryman (talk) 23:53, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

Verifiability

1. "Unlike earlier assumptions about damage to the starboard side of the hull, which shows big tears, the actual damage made by the iceberg is not visible at the bow due to mud." is not sourced (should be easy to find one I think?).

   Another later addition but yes, it's sourceable, and I've done so. Prioryman (talk) 00:10, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

2. "Some have suggested" is tagged as a weasel word.

   Attributed. Prioryman (talk) 00:10, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

Images

1. It's a minor point but on File:Robert Ballard.jpg and File:Rattail.jpg the source webpage is dead or misdirected.

   That's really a Commons issue as both images are hosted there. I don't think there's anything I can do about the Ballard pic; it evidently came from an earlier version of the source page and is no longer present there. I can't really change the attribution on Commons because doing that would break the audit trail of where the pic came from. Prioryman (talk) 00:10, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

2. I uploaded File:Titanic-model-wreckage-cropped.jpg in case you wanted to use it. (Don't worry, if you don't want to!) DrKiernan (talk) 19:11, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

   Thanks for doing that! Prioryman (talk) 00:10, 28 October 2012 (UTC)