Talk:Xbox 360 technical specifications

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It says "The console uses an external power supply with a 5A / 100–120V AC input" - this may be true of the US power supply, but mine (UK) is marked as "200-240V @ 2.7A" 87.194.60.87 19:26, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

I agree, just giving the US numbers basically makes the article wrong/lying. Feel free to edit the actual article just like did this Talk page. Retodon8 (talk) 08:43, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately, my looking at what it says on my power supply probably falls under the category of "Original Research" :-) 87.194.60.87 (talk) 19:14, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Performance Issues

What about the hardware malfunctions the console has become notorious for? Little detail is provided on the main 360 page about this, and it might be worth mentioning how the new hardware revisions have affected hardware performance issues (if at all). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.160.59.248 (talk) 23:09, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

There's articles by gaming, hardware, media, etc., websites that can be linked as reference, but in the end they know little more about it than us consumers. In other words, Microsoft probably isn't giving any hard facts (numbers) when it comes to hardware defects (any time soon), so it's difficult to say anything that's completely true but still useful to readers. "Some (?) people had lots of (?) problems with their console hardware, but newer hardware will probably (?) lessen the amount of hardware defects." is true, but not really useful. Retodon8 (talk) 08:43, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

There is actually a dedicated Wikipeida article about it Xbox 360 technical problems--8bitJake (talk) 04:05, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

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Motherboard revisions

I am debating about writing a section about the various Xbox 360 motherboard designs. Xenon, Zephyr, Falcon and then Jasper, Opus and Valhalla --8bitJake (talk) 04:03, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Go ahead, the article is missing information of the first motheboards, such as the Zephyr, Falcon) --MarioV (talk) 01:54, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

I was thinking about this myself. I was trying to find something that summarized all of the differences, but I have had no luck. I suggest a table, something like that in the PlayStation 3 article.--SkiDragon (talk) 00:40, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Zenon was the launch board. Zephyr added HDMI and was introduced in the Premium 360 and trickled down to all models within a couple months of launch. Falcon replaced Zepher and had a smaller dram chip, modified X clamp design to reduce board warp, diffrent heatsink (Note:although some repaired zenon and zepher boards also had the newer heatsink design), smaller 65nm CPU reduce power consumption and heat output, and can run on the 175 watt power brick as opposed to the previous 225 watt power brick (Note:inital Falcons came with 225 watt supplies in an effort to use the old stock. All new units have 175 watt. Also the bricks are not interchangable as the end which plugs in to the 360 has a diffrent pin configuration. <http://www.anandtech.com/gadgets/showdoc.aspx?i=3152>--User:Typhoon87:Typhoon87 18:19, 2 August 2008 (EST) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Typhoon87 (talk • contribs)

I seriously doubt that the GPU in the Falcon revision is 80nm. Why would Microsoft have spent time and money transitioning to 80nm, even though it was already dated then? 65nm graphics cards were already out then. 75.155.108.157 (talk) 02:03, 11 August 2008 (UTC)Ugotownedo

I'm not sure why it is necessary to editorialize here. We're discussing motherboard functions and revisions.

However, several major (and many minor) motherboard revisions are introduced in an attempt to build systems cheaper (and thus increase profits), and to allow them to run cooler and on less power.

This sounds like the author is someone that would, in a tech support blog, spell Microsoft as Micro$oft. I think we can dispense with the (and increase profits) phrase. Besides, it's redundant. Of course profits would increase if costs go down but product price remains stable. TooMuchTime (talk) 00:37, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Harddrive Connector

The article currently states 'The 2.5" hard drive is connected through a SATA interface and spins at 5400 rpm.' I am new to the XBox 360, so could be wrong but, as I understand it the XBox 360 doesn't connect directly to to the harddrive using a standard SATA or ESATA interface. As I understand it Microsoft have a proprietary connector for connecting the hard drive unit to the XBox 360 - and the unit then connects to the hard drive internally using a standard SATA connector.

Reading the article it would appear that you could simply plug any (E)SATA drive into the XBox 360 using standard (E)SATA cables - which is very misleading if it is not the case. User:Anon —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.163.165.185 (talk) 11:38, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

I added the word "Custom" to the section. Hope that clears it up.--8bitJake (talk) 17:39, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

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I think that there should be an image there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.156.155.14 (talk) 22:38, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Wireless adapter

Is the wireless adapter (the one you use to connect to Xbox LIVE) supposed to come with the console? Because I just ordered an Xbox 360 Elite off eBay, & it doesn't come with one. --DoomedKenny86 (talk) 00:08, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

The wireless network adapter is not shipped with the Xbox 360 Console, but rather must be purchased independently. A cheaper solution is to take an old router, modify the software, and use it as an adapter (See http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2007/10/02/how-to-cheap-wireless-for-your-xbox-360/). F117Landers (talk) 18:11, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

New XBox 360 Motherboards

According to an article published on Engadget, the Jasper Unit draws 12.1 amps, as opposed to the 14.2 amps drawn by the Falcon Unit. The Motherboards section within the article should be revised to reflect this. F117Landers (talk) 14:58, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Forgot the link. http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/10/inside-an-xbox-360-jasper-ben-heck-dissects-the-mythical-consol/ F117Landers (talk) 15:00, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

How to Spot A Jasper

I think this info would be useful. There have been rumors about using the date of production and if they're cooler you may be able to tell? or praps if it uses a different power supply you could know? But is there some other test or telling trait to inform people before they have bought? Different package design or something?

You can refer to this url How to spot a Jasper Banej (talk) 10:25, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Hardware or Software?

There appears to be a lot of codecs, standards, formats, etc that the Xbox 360 supports listed in this article. Shouldn't it be mentioned in the Xbox 360 system software article as oppose to this one? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.45.251.184 (talk) 15:21, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Power Supply Info

Is it possible to get all the revisions of the power supply? It seems the different models when they where made play a factor in the power supply (Or atleast how they connect to the XBox) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.19.163.162 (talk) 16:04, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

According to http://www.anandtech.com/gadgets/showdoc.aspx?i=3472&p=3 each time they reduced the power consumption and power supply rating they changed the connector, the connectors are designed to be compatible in one direction so you can use an oversized PSU but not an undersized one. Plugwash (talk) 23:34, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

I have a Part Number X800564-001. Manufacturer Code: DN5154. Cat No.: N72. It is 330W. There are no output specs. It is not recorded in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.141.92.166 (talk) 18:55, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

Bias

I Think there is a bias as in section 1 as where is says "The Xbox 360 takes a new approach to hardware compared to its predecessor." Sound more like an advert that is promoting the product? Any thoughts? 109.151.59.0 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 16:18, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

Yes, the bias may be related to the comparatively different hardware of other systems on the market, which may or may not be asian sweatshop systems. 20:34, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

Falcon GPU 80nm or 90nm?

I've recently read several articles stating the Falcon motherboard revision did NOT in fact use the same GPU as in the original Xenon and Zephyr. That both the GPU and its RAM was reduced from 90nm to 80nm. Here is one example: http://www.anandtech.com/show/2682

Can anyone confirm if the Falcon (and likely the Opus as well) had an 80nm GPU? If so, the article should be changed to correct this misinformation.--Apple2gs (talk) 21:40, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

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Nicknames for the 360?

Im trying to gather consensus on popular nicknames for this system, to potentially publish them here on this article. Ive also yet to research any web sources in depth. So far, a few nicknames which come to mind, which I do remember from the products lifespan, are "based box 360", "cash money box", or simply "cash money 360", and "Yo [N-word minor] Xbox", and "asian sweatshop killer 360" there are also a few more, but none were as popular as the others, at least in my observations. 20:46, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

Xbox 360 DVD-ROMs

Xbox 360 uses dual-layer DVD-9 discs, which means they are indeed 8.5 GB, as explained here. However, source Eurogamer claims that "The maximum space allocated to game data on the current disc format is just 6.8GB out of a maximum of 7.95GB on a standard dual layer DVD", so this would create a discrepancy between the known standard 8.5 GB size and the Eurogamer-claimed 7.95 GB size.

However I believe this discrepancy is due to the known binary prefix and decimal prefix confusion (Gibibyte and Gigabyte). The numbers reported in the article are Gibibytes. 7.95 GiB, it's indeed 8.5 GB. The space allocated for games is 6.8 GiB, which becomes 7.3 GB. The percentages of XGD2 allocation therefore change from 80 to 85%. With the XGD3 standard, 1 GB was added, which means around 7.8 GiB, or 8.37 GB. The percentages of XGD 3 allocation therefore change from 93 to 98%.

I can't explain this "7.95 GB" thing in any other way, as until proven otherwise dual-layer DVD-9 discs used by the 360 are the same as all the others. I correct accordingly. Lone Internaut (talk) 19:49, 3 May 2022 (UTC)