Talk:Zoloti Vorota (Kyiv Metro)/GA2

GA Review

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Reviewer: The Rambling Man (talk · contribs) 10:42, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

Comments

• While I appreciate this article is mainly about the art and architecture of the station, it's also a fully functional station. I think there should be another section in the article to cover operational aspects of the station which appear (at the moment) to be forming the majority of the lead.
• Where is the station code referenced?
  •  Done Not a very authoritative source, but Google Maps references its code here. Either way, I've removed it.
• Worth linking transfer station for non-experts.
  •  Done Transfer station (Teatralna) has already been linked in the introduction section.
• "As of 2011..." any more up-to-date stats than four years ago? And that ridership comes from an "unofficial website"? What makes it reliable?
  •  Done Sadly no.. unless the 2008 statistics from the official website are any better? Changed it from the unofficial website to an official website. Either way, I'm sure the 2011 statistics were not made up and were rather posted to an unofficial site by someone with knowledge as to that kind of information.
• I'm sure I've seen a template somewhere that alerts a reader to the fact that certain wikilinks actually take you to a non-English-language Wikipedia, have you considered using that so as not to surprise our readers when they're confronted with a page of non-Latin, non-English text?
  •  Done I've removed the uk-wiki language links altogether; incorporating {{Interlanguage link}} would have rendered too many red links, and those articles are likely to undoubtedly never be created.
• You could add that Daily Telegraph link, I found it here, slide 15. It actually refers to it as one of the "most impressive" to be precise.
  •  Done Changed wording to reflect the DT.
• "due to a number of reasons" could you allude to them?
  •  Done Changed wording to reflect the exact reasons
• A couple of largeish pieces in the Construction section which are entirely unreferenced.
  •  Done I've added the proper citations; they all came from the same source so I found it redundant to cite every single sentence along the way.
• " it has not been completed to this day." the article lead says "built but never opened".
  •  Done The Lvivska Brama station's infrastructure and halls themselves have been built, but they were never completed (i.e. no decorative pieces, electrical work, etc.); it is closed off to the public. Thus, "built but never opened."
• Image captions which aren't complete sentences do not need a full stop.
  •  Done
• lead: "features 76 distinct mosaic pieces and images" Mosaics section: "There are a total of 80 large mosaic pieces" and "In all, the station features 27 mosaics". Mildly confusing.
  •  Done Typographical error--corrected to 80. Reworded the sentence "In all, the station features 27 mosaics."
• "The station also ..." then "The station also ..." repetitive.
  •  Done Slightly changed wording to remove repetitiveness.

Not finished, sorry! Will complete the review in a few hours, I've been called away. The Rambling Man (talk) 14:05, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

Continuing

• Can you demonstrate that each of your sources are reliable? As I don't have the linguistic skills it's difficult for me to judge the various non-English sources, but I'd like you demonstrate that the sources meet Wikipedia's requirements.
  • That's the problem that arises with countries like Ukraine where there are little to NO English language publications about even the most important tourist and architectural attractions. I can only hope that the situation will change in the future.. but for right now, practically every Wikipedia article on Ukrainian topics will have a majority (if not all) of the citations only in Russian or Ukrainian. That is where it falls in line with our AGF policy. I've done my best to find the most reliable and distinguished sources for the articles I write, but this is as far as I can get.
  • Since I have removed the "unofficial website" with the 2011 passenger traffic data, every link I have listed there right now is either a Ukrainian news source, or an educational (rather, informational) website about the city's attractions and history. § DDima 04:48, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
• Things like the Kyiv Post are works and should be italicised.
  •  Done Italicized.

That's it. I'll put it on hold for now, seven days and all that to fix up the issues, I'd say the biggest of which are the reliability of sources and my request for a section about the functionality of the station. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:36, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

• •  Done I've added an operation aspects section to the article as was requested, cited with information from the official website. § DDima 06:14, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

I'll be closing this review in two days unless I see any evidence of activity here. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:03, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

Happy with the improvements now, so I'll pass as GA. Well done. The Rambling Man (talk) 06:22, 14 July 2015 (UTC)