Talk:Zuñi Salt Lake

Category Craters

On 25 March Seattle Skier removed Category:Craters of the United States from the article Zuni Salt Lake, stating that "it is for impact craters". The correct category for impact craters is Category:Astroblemes. Craters includes all types of craters. This includes volcanic craters and subsidence craters. --Bejnar 07:33, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

(NOTE: this reply is cross-posted from my talk page.) As far as I could tell, Category:Craters was populated with 99% non-volcanic craters, essentially all impact craters (there may be subsidence craters in there, but I haven't found them yet). So I have removed those tags from the 3 volcanic craters I found it on thus far: Zuni Salt Lake, Amboy Crater , and Valle Grande. I also removed the tags (more reluctantly) from three other volcano-related articles; volcanic crater, caldera, and pseudocrater.

There are well over 1400 volcano articles on WP, and the overwhelming majority of these volcanoes have craters (and perhaps up to 100 may have "Crater" in their name, too). If ony 3 of them were listed under Category:Craters (there may be a few more, too, which I haven't found yet), then it seems completely appropriate to remove the tags from those few instead of adding it to 1000+ articles.

Also, Category:Craters of the United States had been set as a subcat of Category:Volcanoes of the United States. This was totally incorrect if only a tiny fraction of the items in it were volcanoes (and also such a subcat relationship existed only for the US, not other countries), so I have fixed it.

Whatever the intent of the creators of Category:Craters was, it is unknown to me, but the category is now de facto an impact craters category, and excludes volcanoes. If you have any info or insight on the original intent, I would love to know. Thanks. --Seattle Skier (talk) 08:25, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Barefoot

In the pilgrimages to Zuni Salt Lake, that I have seen, the people wore shoes/moccasins. Do you have a citation for "barefoot"? --Bejnar 02:20, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

I don't have the time to look it back up right now. But it seems barefooting in the pilgrimages is probably customary among individuals, rather than among the full community in modern times. Traditions fade over time. However, I'd suggest you should include your witnessing of said modern native footware used by today's pilgrims in the article in the present tense, also including the ancient customarily barefoot Pueblo people in the past tense, their ancestors on this same pilgrimage, as well. Please expand the article a little more with a few details from what you've seen.--Earthelemental99 05:42, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately, that qualifies as original research. Most Zuñi rituals are now quite secret, published sources are likely to be quite old, such as Stevenson, Matilda Coxe (1904) The Zuñi Indians: their mythology, esoteric societies, and ceremonies Twenty-third annual report of the Bureau of American Ethnology to the Secretary of the Smithsonian Institution, 1901-1902. --Bejnar 18:09, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

• On 11 August 2007 TheOuterLimits added "barefoot" back in without citation and without discussion. I have again removed it as contested data. Please provide a citation for barefoot before adding it back in. --Bejnar 18:37, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Importance

I changed the importance rating from low to mid because it is such a good example of a maar volcano, and it is widely cited as such. --Bejnar 18:17, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Class=C

I made this class=C and importance=mid on the templates. The article has seven references, and good detail. --DThomsen8 (talk) 22:59, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Assessment comment

The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Zuñi Salt Lake/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

Zuni salt lake was / is referred to locally as "salt lake" generally, has never been known as Fence lake. The Navajo referred to it as salt in their languange.

Last edited at 18:38, 11 September 2009 (UTC). Substituted at 11:19, 30 April 2016 (UTC)