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The result was: promoted by Allen3 talk 14:55, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

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Penn State head coach Charlene Morett

Moved to mainspace by Michael Barera (talk). Self nominated at 02:19, 14 November 2014 (UTC).

  • Striking original hook - facts pertain more to coach than to team and image is not in nominated article. Had it not been bolded, I'd be more inclined to click on the coach (stub) article than the nominated one. Fuebaey (talk) 01:27, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
  • Good points, Fuebaey. I'd be just as happy with either of the alternate hooks. Michael Barera (talk) 04:55, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
  • PS: I've juggled the hooks and alternates to reflect the striking of the original first choice, and I've added an image to the nomination that is actually used in the article. Michael Barera (talk) 16:39, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
...six weeks later: unstriking the original hook and adding expanded coach article. I'll add a QPQ tomorrow. Fuebaey (talk) 01:42, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
There we go. Fuebaey (talk) 17:07, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
  • I am unable to verify ALT2 because I cannot access the archived "2014 Penn State Field Hockey Yearbook" reference and this source states that the team won two Atlantic 10 titles not three as mentioned in the articles, making nine conference titles rather than ten overall. However ALT3 seems satisfactory, with 28 years as coach and 3 as player. Other than that, the articles are long enough and new enough, the image is suitably licensed and the hook cited. The articles are neutral and I identified no copyright/close paraphrasing issues. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:49, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
Nice catch. I've changed the number in the article on Morett to reflect her bio. Unsure about the team one though - the Atlantic 10 record book says they won two outright and another (for the Western conference?). It was still during her tenure as head coach but her bio doesn't include this for some reason. Maybe Michael Barera can shed some light on this. Fuebaey (talk) 11:40, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for pinging me. In 1988, the A-10 consisted of two separate divisions (East and West) of three teams each, and no interdivision games were played. This meant that the conference regular season consisted of only two games for each team, but both the A-10 and Penn State record books credit the Lions with winning the 1988 A-10 West regular season title (due to the season structure, there was no "overall" regular season champion). I believe that this first-place finish should count as a regular season title, although it would perhaps be useful to add a note to the "10 regular-season conference titles (three in the A-10...)" bit explaining that one is for the A-10 West when the East and West didn't play each other in 1988. I think this stance is supported by how the A-10 lists its conference regular season champions (p. 1), showing the 1988 division champs as essentially co-champions (FYI, I've been consistently counting co-championships [due to ties for the best record] as championships in the "list" and "totals" sections of all the Big Ten field hockey articles). I hope this all makes sense. Michael Barera (talk) 16:34, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
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