Template talk:Dollar sign

Correction request for AUD (Australian dollar)

{{editprotected}} For the Australian dollar (AUD), please change the template result from AU$ to A$. Consensus from the recent (plus earlier-referenced) discussion at WP:AWNB indicates that AU$ is not supported. Dl2000 (talk) 01:39, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Dl2000 (talk) 01:39, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Personally, I think a change like this should be discussed somewhere more central than AWNB. One of the MoS talk pages would be appropriate. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 04:06, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

More then AWNB? It really affects Australia not bloody the US, UK or NZ, fact is AUD is A$ though the media incorrectly use AU$. Bidgee (talk) 05:11, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

It makes sense that the manual of style should be updated first (or at the same time) as this template so that they are not inconsistent. Obviously a consensus of Australian editors would carry a lot of weight in such a discussion, but remember that these articles must be comprehensible to any reader in the world and so the symbol used should be easily recognisable. I'm sure you are familiar with A$ as a symbol of your currency, but personally (as a non-Australian) it would be clearer to have AU or AUD because a single letter A could potentially relate to another country beginning with A (Algerian dollars? Albanian dollars?). So I do feel this needs some wider discussion. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:29, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

That's Albanian lek and Algerian dinar, by the way, neither of which indicates use of A$. Australia is the only nation beginning with 'A' whose currency is called a dollar per ISO 4217 list. Given that the template uses other very short forms such as S$, this proposal shouldn't be controversial. Dl2000 (talk) 23:49, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Furthermore, the template generates a link to the specified currency's page, a feature which should provide plenty of comprehension for readers. Dl2000 (talk) 00:51, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

I support Dl2000's request to change the Australian dollar to be 'A$'. Each country's project is free to recommend the currency style that it prefers as long as it fits in the general outline given in Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(dates_and_numbers)#Currencies. If the Australian project recommends 'A$' then people are free to ignore any templates and just insert 'A$' into articles. That is, by not changing {{dollar sign}}, you are not stopping editors from using 'A$', but rather you are just stopping them from using an otherwise useful template. It would be much better if we make the template do the correct thing. Disclaimer: I am an Australian that has lived and worked in multiple countries programming EFTPOS and transit fare systems (ie I deal with multiple currencies professionally). Cheers.  Stepho  (talk) 07:35, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

It does seem to be correct. If it matters, the person who wrote the template to use AU$ in the first place is also Australian, though he hasn't edited in quite a while so might not be helpful to ask why he did it. Does anyone else know? Why would AU$ be used in the first place if it's wrong? It's not easy to search in Google for "AU$" because it ignores the dollar sign. Most online currency exchange sites seem to dispense with the dollar sign entirely and just use USD, CAD, AUD, etc. —Soap— 10:55, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

There are currently 3 templates. {{A$}} and {{AU$}} have hardcoded 'A$' and 'AU$' respectively. Only {{AUD}} uses the {{dollar sign}} template and currently produces 'AU$' - this is the one we want to correct. I'm hoping to delete the other 2 templates but that is an issue to discuss elsewhere. ISO 4217 allows for the 2 letter country code from ISO 3166 ('AU') to be used with the single character currency symbol ('$') instead of the 3 letter 'AUD'. Australian newspapers use '$' and 'A$' but very, very rarely can also use 'AUD' and 'AU$'. All 4 are correct in the right context. However, the Australian project has settled on 'A$' as the single, preferred variant to use. A lot of templates are created on a whim and are not maintained very well, so they do not neccessarily reflect consensus. I'm hoping to bring all the currency templates up to scratch, hopefully using {{dollar sign}} at their core.  Stepho  (talk) 12:41, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Y Done. If for some reason this turns out to be a bad idea, it can be undone easily. —Soap— 01:24, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

Thank you - much appreciated.  Stepho  (talk) 03:52, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 26 November 2015

Should all pages listed on ISO 4217#Active codes be used in the template? –Aidan721 (talk) 02:40, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

How is this an edit request? Jimp 04:28, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

User:Jimp, I am suggesting that all currency systems listed there should be included. –Aidan721 (talk) 17:09, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

You could add additional currencies by editing Template:Dollar sign/name and Template:Dollar sign/symbol as these subtemplates are not protected. But I wouldn't advise adding them unless they are actually going to be used somewhere. Regards — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 14:13, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 7 December 2017

At the third line, add this:
{{Rcat shell|{{R from move}}{{R from spacing}}}} stranger195 (talk • contribs • guestbook) 11:51, 7 December 2017 (UTC)

Done — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 13:07, 7 December 2017 (UTC)

Mexican peso error?

When doing the template, it pulls N$ instead of the correct sign, MXN$. Why does it do this? MX (✉ • ✎) 15:55, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

I would guess that the original writer of this template copied 'N$' from Mexican peso. 'MXN' is of course straight from ISO 4217. 'MXN$' is definitely wrong (although it is probably used by many people regardless). However, 'Mex$' is also shown at Mexican peso - I don't know if that is official or not. Another often used (but also unofficial) formula for currencies is to use the 2-letter ISO 3166-1 alpha-2 code for ('MX' for Mexico) with the currency symbol to make 'MX$'. I no longer have the ISO documents that I used to have, so we should ask at Mexican peso what the official code is besides MXN.  Stepho  talk  10:50, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

The fine people at Talk:Mexican peso/Archives/2019#International symbol seem to be ignoring us. If they care so little to give no reply in the next couple of days then I will just change it to MX$. I have also asked the same question at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mexico#Currency symbol for the Mexican Peso  Stepho  talk  21:58, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

why not "MXN$" which combines its ISO code w/ its symbol. Using "MX" is clear, but it doesn't have any connection to the currency. DKAllen78 22:30 22 March 2019 (CST)

The common forms are the nationally used symbols if distinct from other countries (eg N$ but not $), the ISO 4217 code (eg MXN) or the 2-letter country code (eg MX) with the single symbol (eg $) to make MX$. I have never seen the 2-letter ISO 3166-1 alpha-2 country code (eg MX) combined with the multi-character symbols (eg N$) to make a code such as MXN$. I did ask at a number of Mexican WP talk pages but I got no answers at all. so I'd be reluctant to change something not related to my own country without some Mexican input. Also, I found I don't have permission to change it anyway - although I would search for somebody with permission if we had a stronger case.  Stepho  talk  11:37, 23 March 2019 (UTC)