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Palestine
I have been quite active improving the Israeli section, and I made the separate Palestinian section hack (that shows the Israeli section below the Palestinian one, due to an absence of Palestinian links). I noticed that the label for the Palestinian section has changed names a couple of times, in part due to myself, so I would like to know what the name should be. Currently it has alternated between Palestinian territories and Palestine, State of. I myself consider that the term "Palestinian territories" describes a geographical entity, while I see "State of Palestine" as describing a political one - and so I prefer PT since this page as being about geography, not politics. I also see a simple "Palestine" as a good solution, possibly a compromise between the two. Are there any other opinions, so that this issue could be decided? Many thanks, Mapeh (talk) 18:04, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
- I think Palestine is the most neutral label and it should be used. —EncMstr (talk) 06:55, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
- Actually, considering all sources here show both modern-day Israel, modern-day Palestine, and the historical Mandate of Palestine, would it not be simpler to merge both the Israeli and the Palestinian sections together? Mapeh (talk) 20:33, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
apple maps
As we tested on nl-wikipedia, apple maps seems to be url compatible with google maps, so you can also use the zoom parameter for the zoomlevel, the type parameter for maps or satellite, and others. Maybe you want to implement it the same as we did on nl-wikipedia. Akoopal (talk) 19:48, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
Update the Google terrain links to work with the new Google maps.
Update the Google terrain links to work with the new Google maps. These new links will then be backwards compatible with the old Google maps. Currently one needs an additional click if using the new Google maps. Jidanni (talk) 22:40, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
Added PeakFinder
I added peakfinder.org for 360° panoramic mountain views to the 'Other Information' section. Please drop me a line on my talk page if you think this is inappropriate. Fabiz (talk) 13:30, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
help
How to add "Geo Hack" map in some Wikipedia template? I don't want to draw any SVG maps. so please tell me how use Geo Hack or other maps in Wikipedia templates to identify location.-Surprizi (talk) 10:48, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
Elevation
Most of the maps would open with a high POV, the bing auto zooms nicely to surround the points referenced on a page.
When opening in google earth (iPad) it starts at elevation 50 which doesn't do much for katoomba 800m up, not that you're to know but a little elevation wouldn't hurt in the GE case --Dave Rave (talk) 23:15, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
Narrow Neck preview
WikiMiniAtlas toolserver->labs
Hi! The WikiMiniAtlas map will have to be changed to point to the new labs version of the WMA at http://wma.wmflabs.org thanks! --Dschwen 02:43, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
- And now it is removed. Without any statement or discussion here. Odd. --Dschwen 01:13, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
- What is removed, and from where? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 09:49, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
- Meta:WikiMiniAtlas was embedded on the geohack page. I don't know who has access to that page nowadays. It might be added through Javascript though (the template). There is still a placeholder div on Template:GeoTemplate. --Dschwen 22:08, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
- What is removed, and from where? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 09:49, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
Mayday, the toolserver is gone now. Anybody with geohack access, please make that change. --Dschwen 17:41, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
Search box and real upper right image required
Hello, two things i would really like on this page:
- a search box somewhere at the top of the page. I have to check the global average position of many locations on the world map e.g. East China Sea, the Bering Sea, the North Sea, the Grand Banks, the Patagonian Shelf, the Arafura Sea and Gulf of Carpentaria, and the Siberian Shelf. For this I use the upper right hand image. Now one continuously has to search for the Wikipedia page, hit the coordinates, copy the image, go back to do a new search (or work with tabs). When there is a search box, like in Google Earth, one can type the query directly here. If no coordinates are present, an error message is given.
- a real image at the top right of the page. The image now is composed of a world map with a superimposed dot somewhere on it. Copying the map with your browser into your personal wysiwyg html notes (with Seamonkey for instance) does not work, the dot is not copied. One has to use things like Snapcrab to copy that part of the screen. The sides have to be adjusted, very tedious. If it could be a real image, that can be directly copied from your browser, the process of searching the positions of many locations for your personal notes could be so much faster.
Thanks! Jgamleus (talk) 18:42, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
- @Jgamleus: It's two images, one for the map (File:Earthmap1000x500.jpg, 360 wide by 180 high) and one for the dot (File:Locator Dot.png, 8 wide by 8 high) that is superimposed on the map one. These two images are used on every coordinates links page. If we were to produce a composite image which included map and dot in the same file, that was different for every different set of coordinates, the number of images that would be necessary to create could run into the millions. It's just not practical. --Redrose64 (talk) 19:06, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
- @Redrose64: Thanks for your answer. But I am not asking to generate millions of images. I am only asking that as soon as a user hits the coordinates of something on a Wikipedia page and comes to this GeoHack page with the place of the thing indicated by the red dot on the world map, that then *only one* image is *generated*, with the red dot superimposed on the right place. I am thinking of a php-script, that can do the thing. This way Wikipedians can copy such an image with a dot much faster. Perhaps there are more places in Wikipedia where images are superimposed on each other. Do you think this can be done? Jgamleus (talk) 21:58, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
- There are indeed lots of places where images are superimposed; the pushpin maps on articles like Sale Metrolink station for instance, or the home & away colours at the bottom of the infobox for Blackburn Rovers F.C. When images are created for use in a Wikipedia page, they are retained pretty much permanently: if images were created that were specific to a particular set of coordinates, the number of images - and hence the disk space - would rapidly grow. For such a feature to be implemented, there's nothing we can usefully do here, you would need to file a feature request at bugzilla: --Redrose64 (talk) 22:52, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
- @Redrose64: Thanks for your answer Redrose64. So also if images are generated by a php-script in order to be shown in a Wikipedia page, they are retained pretty much permanently and not thrown away immediately after being sent to the user? As a computer scientist, this sounds like an error to me that should be corrected. Jgamleus (talk) 15:49, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
- Consider the globe image in the box at the top of this page. It looks like this and the full path to that is http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/Erioll_world.svg/60px-Erioll_world.svg.png which is a 60px-wide PNG representation of the SVG original. If I were to display that smaller - say 40px wide like this - the servers would create another PNG representation of the SVG, but which is 40px wide, at http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/Erioll_world.svg/40px-Erioll_world.svg.png. Those two PNG files will be retained for ever, or at least until File:Erioll world.svg is deleted.
- I can't control how the MediaWiki software works. If you feel that it could be done better, again it's bugzilla:. --Redrose64 (talk) 16:09, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
- @Redrose64: Thanks for clarifying Redrose64. I understand the need to retain images in different formats, it's better not to send a 23 MB image, when a 500kB version suffices. But then we are talking about *some* instances of an image. Suppose *many* instances of that image, each with slightly different size, would be required, how would Wikipedia solve that problem? Before I go to Bugzilla, is there any place in Wikipedia known to you where images are dynamically generated, for instance with php-scripts, not statically retrieved? Jgamleus (talk) 16:58, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
- Each different rendered size has a separate copy stored on the servers. I don't think that there is any dynamic image generation; you could ask at WP:VPT. --Redrose64 (talk) 17:25, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
- @Redrose64: Ok, I read in Yahoo Answers that "Wikipedia is based on a piece of wiki software called MediaWiki, which is written in PHP. Source:http://www.mediawiki.org". And at http://php.net/manual/en/function.imagecopymerge.php there is a function to merge images in PHP. It should theoretically be possible then to generate images and sending them to the user without storing them in Wikipedia. I'll go to the places you mentioned. Thanks a lot! Jgamleus (talk) 18:20, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
- Each different rendered size has a separate copy stored on the servers. I don't think that there is any dynamic image generation; you could ask at WP:VPT. --Redrose64 (talk) 17:25, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
- @Redrose64: Thanks for clarifying Redrose64. I understand the need to retain images in different formats, it's better not to send a 23 MB image, when a 500kB version suffices. But then we are talking about *some* instances of an image. Suppose *many* instances of that image, each with slightly different size, would be required, how would Wikipedia solve that problem? Before I go to Bugzilla, is there any place in Wikipedia known to you where images are dynamically generated, for instance with php-scripts, not statically retrieved? Jgamleus (talk) 16:58, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
- @Redrose64: Thanks for your answer Redrose64. So also if images are generated by a php-script in order to be shown in a Wikipedia page, they are retained pretty much permanently and not thrown away immediately after being sent to the user? As a computer scientist, this sounds like an error to me that should be corrected. Jgamleus (talk) 15:49, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
- There are indeed lots of places where images are superimposed; the pushpin maps on articles like Sale Metrolink station for instance, or the home & away colours at the bottom of the infobox for Blackburn Rovers F.C. When images are created for use in a Wikipedia page, they are retained pretty much permanently: if images were created that were specific to a particular set of coordinates, the number of images - and hence the disk space - would rapidly grow. For such a feature to be implemented, there's nothing we can usefully do here, you would need to file a feature request at bugzilla: --Redrose64 (talk) 22:52, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
- @Redrose64: Thanks for your answer. But I am not asking to generate millions of images. I am only asking that as soon as a user hits the coordinates of something on a Wikipedia page and comes to this GeoHack page with the place of the thing indicated by the red dot on the world map, that then *only one* image is *generated*, with the red dot superimposed on the right place. I am thinking of a php-script, that can do the thing. This way Wikipedians can copy such an image with a dot much faster. Perhaps there are more places in Wikipedia where images are superimposed on each other. Do you think this can be done? Jgamleus (talk) 21:58, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
Can a search box be put in the GeoTemplate? (remark nr. 1). Thanks! Jgamleus (talk) 18:20, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
- One of the three GeoHack maintainers (and apparently sole cleanup crew) here. My plan is to change the coordinate link to a drop down with 4 or 5 links for 80+% of most used services, copy-to-clipboard functionality, and our mapping implementation. This should keep complainers away from any GeoHack revamps (so many dead services).
- As for you questions: 1) We could use <InputBox> tag, but it would be weird for Commons users to be searching Wikipedia. 2) The foundation does not provide resources to render and store maps (+various sizes) for the 4.7 million coordinate on Commons. Also the lead platforms (Android/iOS) only support copying text and URLs, although you can download images. — Dispenser 00:24, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
Marker positions for same place on world map differ in different languages
Hello,
when one puts some coordinates in the English page for the Patagonian Shelf and then clicks on the coordinates of the edited page, the resulting English page shows a marker on the world map at quite a different location than if one would do the same in the Spanish page for the Patagonian Shelf. The differing result is the same if one chooses on the resulting English page the Spanish language. This means editors of the English page and Spanish page end up using different coordinates to give their readers the same indication of a location.
Apparently the marker and the world map that GeoHack chooses for their composed image depend on the language you choose. It seems to me the world maps are not all quite the same. Perhaps this is the cause. Can this be corrected?
Thanks! Jgamleus (talk) 02:01, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
- First, English give
46° W, 63° S
and Spanish gives50° W, 62° S
, so they differ there. Second, the enwiki and eswiki vertical offset are both wrong (97px and 90px) and should be 94px (180px / 2 + 8px / 2). However, es:Template:GeoTemplate is protected and hasn't been updated in 4 years. — Dispenser 00:56, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
UFI of Geonames to the GeoHack?
Hello,
I compiled User:Keysanger/sandbox1 from the Geonames database. Can I use, for example, the UFI (=3880801) of "Quebrada del Mal Paso" in {{coord}}
in order to obtain this map: http://www.geonames.org/3880801/ from GeoHack?. There is a lot of maps in GeoHack, but this one shows the administrative region, the name, and the coordinates of the feature. --Keysanger (Talk) 15:04, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
Great Britain - "More OS maps" section
In the table of alternative services listed for Great Britain there are five services listed as available from openstreetmap showing old OS maps. None of these services seem to be working (the first 4 produce a "403 Forbidden You don't have permission to access / on this server." warning and the fifth option does go to openstreetmap but displays an all black map...).
I've explored openstreetmap a bit and there does not seem to be a way of viewing any old OS maps there.
Should these services be removed from the table, or am I missing something in openstreetmap? Robevans123 (talk) 09:31, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
- Regarding the fifth one, changing the last part of the URL from
&layers=B0
to&layers=0BF
gives a street map, which is much more useful. There may be further options, see Export; and Sharing a link to the maps. --Redrose64 (talk) 13:25, 10 February 2015 (UTC) - Of course, we could ask Pigsonthewing (talk · contribs) who added those openstreetmap links. --Redrose64 (talk) 13:31, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
- Good idea ;-) The
oos.openstreetmap
server is - temporarily, we hope - out of commission. I suggest commenting out those sections, so that they can be restored when it resurfaces. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:03, 10 February 2015 (UTC)- Thanks both. I've commented out the section. Any idea how long the server is going to be out of commission? Should I check daily/weekly/monthly...? Robevans123 (talk) 15:02, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
- Likely the latter. If I remember, I'll pop by here when it returns. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:42, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks both. I've commented out the section. Any idea how long the server is going to be out of commission? Should I check daily/weekly/monthly...? Robevans123 (talk) 15:02, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
- Good idea ;-) The
North Avenue Technologies historical USGS maps
The good folks at North Avenue Technologies have copies of many historic USGS maps. These maps are available rectified and stitched at https://historical.northavenue.net/main.html#lonlat/-75.40018805511424/43.297233651869696/14 Can I add this to GEOTEMPLATE-US
Pretty obvious how the lat / lon / zoom are specified. RussNelson (talk) 19:55, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
Rhyme and/or Reason to current order of GEOTEMPLATEs?
I don't see any rhyme or reason to the current order of the GEOTEMPLATEs. If there is none, can I put them in alphabetic order? If there is one, could it be put into Template:Editnotices/Page/Template:GeoTemplate possibly? RussNelson (talk) 19:55, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
Documentation page
The documentation page points to Toolserver, but Toolserver shrugs and says that the service isn't there anymore and it doesn't know where it is now. Well, the service is now at https://tools.wmflabs.org/geohack/ but it's still using the same template off wikipedia.org. I have restored the most recent full version of the documentation that I can find in the history of that page. RussNelson (talk) 20:30, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
OSM description
At present OSM is described as "OpenStreetMap CC-BY-SA". Probably better to say "OpenStreetMap (open licence)" - OSM data is now licensed as ODbL, though the cartographic style is CC-BY-SA. --ChaRleyTroniC (talk) 11:25, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
Denmark, Faroe Islands and Greenland
There is a map site with indirect coordinate search for Denmark, Faroe Islands and Greenland (the latter in North America). http://kmswww3.kms.dk/kortpaanettet/findetsted.htm The present link Kort & Matrikelstyrelsen seems not to work anymore, but the new link belongs to same organisation. --BIL (talk) 21:04, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
Yahoo! Maps#Shutdown so please remove it
Yahoo! Maps#Shutdown so please remove it. Jidanni (talk) 02:39, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
USGS National Map Viewer
Would someone please fix the link to the USGS National Map Viewer, which at the current time always results in a "Not Found" message on the USGS website. The only fix required is to change the link from HTTPS to HTTP. It works just fine with HTTP. •••Life of Riley (T–C) 17:47, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
Coordination wrong
How can I get help with this
27°58′30″N 26°47′03″E / 27.975000°N 26.784166°E : I entered this code into football club infobox but it directing me up in Africa. example for you to compare is This is mine : 27.975000°S 26.784166°E
Changed into : 27.97500°N 26.784166°E
and how can change °N to °S, I think problem is there. Thanks.Ras Benjih (talk) 14:18, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
- The coordinates should be -27.975 and 26.784166. Use minus signs for coordinates south and west. •••Life of Riley (T–C) 17:48, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
Google Maps links display distances in feet & miles rather than m & km
Because Google Maps links are to the US site maps.google.com, distances are displayed in Imperial/US customary units rather than the SI metres and kilometres used in almost all other countries. Should this be changed?
A webpage states that the required URL parameter for metric distances is "doflg=pt", but I couldn't get the change to stick.
--Majesty of the Commons (talk) 04:18, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
Incorrect identification of location
There has been a place misidentified on the WikiMiniAtlas, and I would correct the problem, but I have no idea how to do so. So, I am asking for assistance. The article, New Albion has included several fringe theories. One of them is Whale Cove, Oregon. In that section,the link to the WikiMiniAtlas coordinates takes the reader to a map with the name New Albion posted there in Oregon. One must zoom in a little to see the label associated with the dot. There is no place officially recognized in Oregon as New Albion. I suggest the name, Whale Cove, be put there instead of New Albion. If you concur and would like to do so, please do.Horst59 (talk) 00:18, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
- The named point on the map does not refer specifically to the name of the place, but rather to the Wikipedia article in which the coordinates of that point are given. Thus it says New Albion because it links to the article "New Albion". Try viewing the article Whale Cove (Oregon) and then call up the WikiMiniAtlas from the coordinates at the top right-hand corner of the page. There you will see a point on the named map named New Albion, which links to the named article. •••Life of Riley (T–C) 18:26, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
- That makes a lot of sense. I appreciate your response very much.Horst59 (talk) 21:05, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
Wikimedia maps service is now live
The Wikimedia Maps trial service has launched, and should probably be included on this list. See also phab:T113438. Thanks! --Yurik (talk) 04:34, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
Is there a way to try the sandbox template with tools.wmflabs.org/geohack ?
Hi, if I modify Template:GeoTemplate/sandbox I can see a preview of all the map links. But to see if the URLs actually work with test coordinate I have to get tools.wmflabs.org/geohack to load the template on the sandbox subpage instead of Template:GeoTemplate. Is there a way to do so? Maybe the broken GeoHack Documentation link in the sidebar of GeoHack used to explain how to do this. Thanks -- SPage (WMF) (talk) 04:17, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
- Toolserver documentation is now at MediaWiki.org (Why?). Just set one of the globes to sandbox
_globe:sandbox
. — Dispenser 05:40, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
Wrong wreck
The position 21°10′S 29°51′W / 21.167°S 29.850°W is incorrectly marked as RMS Carmania (1905) It is actually the wreck position of the SMS Cap Trafalgar. How can the name be changed?
Murgatroyd49 (talk) 11:50, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
Position is coord|21|10|S|29|51|W|source:kolossus-ltwiki|display=title Murgatroyd49 (talk) 11:52, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
When I click the "Open" link for Google Earth on the site https://tools.wmflabs.org/geohack/geohack.php?pagename=Hill_of_Tara¶ms=53_34_39_N_6_36_43_W_ instead of opening the appropriate location (Hill of Tara in Ireland) on Google Earth I only get the possibility to save a file doc.kml. Which, of course, I do not want to do, I want to see the appropriate location (Hill of Tara in Ireland) on Google Earth. Igor Kusin — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.141.58.15 (talk) 17:52, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
'Problem with query' error on 'Table of coordinates' tool
In the Wikipedia Articles section of the GeoHack pages, there are two items for 'Table of coordinates'. The first is prepared by the Wikipedia-World team. It used to give a table of Wikipedia articles that have coordinates within a certain radius from a particular position. Since some time, all the links under this item open a page with a 'Problem with query' error. How can this be fixed? Imdashti (talk) 05:40, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
Half of "Global services" table is hidden
At the moment, there seems to be a table or piece of the page overlaid on the right half of the "Global services" table. When I look at the "Template" view, that section is a big gray box with "JavaScript disabled" at the top.— Gorthian (talk) 19:33, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 14 December 2015
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41.34.39.199 (talk) 17:10, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. /wia🎄/tlk 18:20, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
Using Live Wiki Maps
Are there any objections to inserting a box at the top with a live map? Something that RU-Wiki already did - see example. Thanks! --Yurik (talk) 00:59, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
- No objections, Done Legoktm (talk) 05:40, 8 January 2016 (UTC)
Recent changes
Legoktm Where were these changes discussed? They have broken the region:
parameter of {{coord}}
- the region-specific section is supposed to appear to the right of the "Global services" block, instead, it's way down the page and all the inapplicable region blocks are shown too. --Redrose64 (talk) 02:12, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
- See #Using Live Wiki Maps above and wikitech-ambassadors. And fixed, sorry. Legoktm (talk) 06:55, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
- '#Using Live Wiki Maps' does not discuss these changes. The other link you provide is a mailing list. Where is the GeoURI? Where is the Geo microformat? Why are the most commonly used maps (Google and OSM; as determined through stats and/ or user testing) no longer prominent? I'm going to revert, until consensus is demonstrated here. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:48, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
- The fact that someone posted here over a month ago and no one bothered to respond indicated to me that no one cared, so I went ahead and did it. The mailing list post explains where the motivation and design came from - the Russian Wikipedia. Reverting is fine until we can fix the issues, but it probably would have been easier for you to fix the missing features:
- Isn't embedding a map that is Wikimedia-hosted using OSM data better than linking to third-party services (Google/OSM)? In any case, I think we can bump those two up to the top of the "Global services" table.
- Is the Geo microformat the stuff inside the
<span class="geo">
tag? - We can re-add GeoURI to the right-side infobox if you think it's that important.
- Legoktm (talk) 18:29, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
- Just a comment, but if it's decided to restore the changes and you need space in the right-hand box for the region code and the GeoURI (and anything else), in my opinion we can lose the unimportant "Antipodes" info in that box, and probably the "Object" heading as well. Deor (talk) 19:00, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
- Yes, someone posted here over a month ago, but they didn't forewarn about the changes you made, they simply asked "Are there any objections to inserting a box at the top with a live map?". The geo microformat is represented by the three spans/ classes in
<span class="geo"><span class="latitude" title="Latitude">{latdegdec}</span>, <span class="longitude" title="Longitude">{londegdec}</span></span>
. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:18, 13 January 2016 (UTC)- @Pigsonthewing: so was there something wrong with the microformats in [1]? It looks properly marked up to me, but I'm not an expert. Legoktm (talk) 07:43, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
- The fact that someone posted here over a month ago and no one bothered to respond indicated to me that no one cared, so I went ahead and did it. The mailing list post explains where the motivation and design came from - the Russian Wikipedia. Reverting is fine until we can fix the issues, but it probably would have been easier for you to fix the missing features:
- '#Using Live Wiki Maps' does not discuss these changes. The other link you provide is a mailing list. Where is the GeoURI? Where is the Geo microformat? Why are the most commonly used maps (Google and OSM; as determined through stats and/ or user testing) no longer prominent? I'm going to revert, until consensus is demonstrated here. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:48, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
Pigsonthewing, Deor, thanks for discussing this. What features do you think are currently missing in the Legoktm's implementation that blocks the new maps service? I would love to work on addressing them. Also, I am actively working on the <maps> tag to allow maps usage directly in the articles, making it possible to do it all in-wiki without external wmflabs service. Any suggestions are welcome. Thanks! --Yurik (talk) 19:59, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
- Other than those I mentioned above, I haven't looked to see what was missing. You have this about face; any proposed removals should be discussed (or at the very least, made one at a time, with a meaningful edit summary). Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:18, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
- I much prefer the current status to its predecessor. For me, the biggest issue is the huge map: I virtually always use the Acme Mapper link in "Global services" (I gave up on Google, except for route-planning, when they did away with the classic format last year), and like many of the other mapping links, Acme is above the fold in Andy's version but below the fold in Legoktm's version. Of second-highest importance to me is the coordinates display, which appears at top left in Andy's and at right in Legoktm's; I don't care about its placement, as long as it's somewhere. I don't particularly care which map is provided or about the other issues discussed here. Nyttend (talk) 02:19, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
- I get that everyone has their own workflows and stuff, but isn't the most important part of this template/GeoHack the actual embedded map? The WMA embed has been broken for who knows how long... Legoktm (talk) 07:19, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
- I also think of geohack primarily as a map service, and secondary as links, but both might be needed. Pigsonthewing, do I read you correctly that you oppose to things being removed, not added? So in your opinion, we should re-add the map, and carefully preserve all other features on the page until discussed one at a time? Where would be the best place to discuss the geohack design? I suspect not many people actually know about this page. --Yurik (talk)
- I object to things - many of which have been added after extensive discussion, and consensus being reached - being removed without discussion and consensus. I object specifically to the removal of the items I mentioned above. Discussion should be held here, but proposals for major changes should be flagged via WP:Centralized discussion. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:34, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
- I also think of geohack primarily as a map service, and secondary as links, but both might be needed. Pigsonthewing, do I read you correctly that you oppose to things being removed, not added? So in your opinion, we should re-add the map, and carefully preserve all other features on the page until discussed one at a time? Where would be the best place to discuss the geohack design? I suspect not many people actually know about this page. --Yurik (talk)
- I get that everyone has their own workflows and stuff, but isn't the most important part of this template/GeoHack the actual embedded map? The WMA embed has been broken for who knows how long... Legoktm (talk) 07:19, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
- I much prefer the current status to its predecessor. For me, the biggest issue is the huge map: I virtually always use the Acme Mapper link in "Global services" (I gave up on Google, except for route-planning, when they did away with the classic format last year), and like many of the other mapping links, Acme is above the fold in Andy's version but below the fold in Legoktm's version. Of second-highest importance to me is the coordinates display, which appears at top left in Andy's and at right in Legoktm's; I don't care about its placement, as long as it's somewhere. I don't particularly care which map is provided or about the other issues discussed here. Nyttend (talk) 02:19, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
- I definitely don't view GeoHack "primarily as a map service", and I suspect that our readers don't, either. When I want to see details of the location of a place, I most often use the link to the Google satellite view, the Acme version of USGS topographical maps, the British Ordnance survey maps, or some other link on the page. We can replace the nonfunctional WikiMiniAtlas map with the other map if you want, but both maps tend to omit useful detail in their coverage of the less-inhabited areas of the world. Deor (talk) 12:48, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
- I've always considered the template a collection of links to mapping services, with the maps merely being meant as general guides so you know what region of the world is being talked about. "I get that everyone has their own workflows and stuff" — that's why I framed my response as "it messes me up" and why I didn't start a "please revert these changes" discussion several days ago: I don't know how much it affects other people, and I hesitated to rely merely on my own workflow as a reason for proposing a reversion. Since someone else had started this discussion, I figured I'd throw it in, if for no other reason than giving an example of one workflow that got interrupted. Given the past history of people disputing which link(s) to display at the top of the list of maps (see Template talk:GeoTemplate/Archive 12#Featuring proprietary content, for example), which demonstrates people's active interest in featuring some link in a really prominent place (even though they were disputing which link(s) to feature), I don't think we ought to get rid of those links entirely or make them significantly more obscure. Note that I'm using a wide laptop screen (HP Pavilion 15, with a screen 13-5/8 inches wide and 7-5/8 inches tall), which causes text and everything else to appear higher up (because each line is longer, so un-forced line breaks are fewer), so I expect that people using less-wide screens will experience the same thing more profoundly. Nyttend (talk) 03:20, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks for the response, that's really helpful for me to understand how people typically use the page. I think the changes I've implemented below should help not break people's workflows while still adding new features. Legoktm (talk) 08:19, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
- I've always considered the template a collection of links to mapping services, with the maps merely being meant as general guides so you know what region of the world is being talked about. "I get that everyone has their own workflows and stuff" — that's why I framed my response as "it messes me up" and why I didn't start a "please revert these changes" discussion several days ago: I don't know how much it affects other people, and I hesitated to rely merely on my own workflow as a reason for proposing a reversion. Since someone else had started this discussion, I figured I'd throw it in, if for no other reason than giving an example of one workflow that got interrupted. Given the past history of people disputing which link(s) to display at the top of the list of maps (see Template talk:GeoTemplate/Archive 12#Featuring proprietary content, for example), which demonstrates people's active interest in featuring some link in a really prominent place (even though they were disputing which link(s) to feature), I don't think we ought to get rid of those links entirely or make them significantly more obscure. Note that I'm using a wide laptop screen (HP Pavilion 15, with a screen 13-5/8 inches wide and 7-5/8 inches tall), which causes text and everything else to appear higher up (because each line is longer, so un-forced line breaks are fewer), so I expect that people using less-wide screens will experience the same thing more profoundly. Nyttend (talk) 03:20, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
- I definitely don't view GeoHack "primarily as a map service", and I suspect that our readers don't, either. When I want to see details of the location of a place, I most often use the link to the Google satellite view, the Acme version of USGS topographical maps, the British Ordnance survey maps, or some other link on the page. We can replace the nonfunctional WikiMiniAtlas map with the other map if you want, but both maps tend to omit useful detail in their coverage of the less-inhabited areas of the world. Deor (talk) 12:48, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
Sandbox
I've added a feature to GeoHack that allows us to test with Template:GeoTemplate/sandbox by adding &sandbox=1
to the GeoHack URL, for example Lyon. I've made the following changes to the sandbox based on the feedback here:
- Removed Antipodes, added Geo URI in its place
- Move Google Maps and OSM links to the top of the table so they're easier for people to use
- Add region and zoom values.
Please let me know what you think, and if any other useful info is missing. Legoktm (talk) 08:09, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
- I assume that the big white box at the top is where a map would appear? As long as it's there, I'm still opposed, because like your last edit to the template itself, the map is pushing everything else below the fold and making all of the links much less significant. No comment on the metadata that Andy mentioned, because I'm not familiar enough with them to make an intelligent comment. Nyttend (talk) 21:40, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
- Yes, are you not seeing a map there? At least on my screen (7in tall) I still see all the regional services and up to arctic.io in the global services above the fold. But let me test with some smaller screen sizes and get back to you. Legoktm (talk) 17:26, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
- Nyttend, I agree that the list of links is important, but we shouldn't prioritize some links above others depending on the screen size and where in alphabet they are. Because otherwise by that logic we cannot add any new maps service links that would be positioned before your favorite link, as it could also push it down beyond the screen edge. Also, the en community can try the same approach as ru community, and put the most common links above all others, thus possibly solving your usecase.
- I think it is better to add the map above all the links - the map provides some quick information (summary) and could answer the location question for at least some users right away, without going to external services. This is similar to how articles are structured - summary first, and details with external links later. I created a phab:T124113 task to get some data so that we have a better idea of geohack usage. I think we should try to make it useful to all users - both novice and tech-savy. Also, we should eventually let users customize this experience - e.g. perhaps by automatically taking you to the map service that you like, instead of showing geohack. --Yurik (talk) 02:04, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
- legoktm, thanks for doing all this work. itwiki & ruwiki just fixed their js script, see here. --Yurik (talk) 02:11, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
- My objections were twofold: it impairs me, and it go against what others have wanted in previous discussions. As I noted above, I'm not attempting to make my impairment trump other stuff: I just wanted to know that it would be considered. And I wanted to ensure that some links be shown. See my comments above: I figured that if my wide screen didn't show the below-the-map links, nobody else's would show them either. Since all of you have proven that I was wrong, I don't have any reason to oppose on the "it impairs others" issue, and I'm not going to start trying to force you to accommodate my needs. Nyttend (talk) 02:54, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
- Nyttend, when you look at this link, how far down do you see? I also have a fairly small 13.3" wide screen, and I see Google Earth as the last link without scrolling. --Yurik (talk) 03:26, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
- My objections were twofold: it impairs me, and it go against what others have wanted in previous discussions. As I noted above, I'm not attempting to make my impairment trump other stuff: I just wanted to know that it would be considered. And I wanted to ensure that some links be shown. See my comments above: I figured that if my wide screen didn't show the below-the-map links, nobody else's would show them either. Since all of you have proven that I was wrong, I don't have any reason to oppose on the "it impairs others" issue, and I'm not going to start trying to force you to accommodate my needs. Nyttend (talk) 02:54, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
- Yes, are you not seeing a map there? At least on my screen (7in tall) I still see all the regional services and up to arctic.io in the global services above the fold. But let me test with some smaller screen sizes and get back to you. Legoktm (talk) 17:26, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
- At the very bottom of the screen is "Service/Map/Satellite/Topo/Other" and "Service/Map/Aerial/Other", the headers for the two columns. I see no links whatsoever. I wonder why I so badly misunderstood? Nyttend (talk) 03:35, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
- Nyttend, I just checked with common resolutions. It seems you have 768px height display, which is about 44% of the web users, so we should take it into account (unless the majority are mobile phones, in which case the number would be significantly lower). The question remains if this is a common enough scenario for a person with <800px height to use a link (that's why i added height logging to the KPI requirements). Regardless, I think we could make the map a bit shorter, and remove two table rows of the card on the right. What rows do you think are not needed there, and should be moved somewhere else or removed altogether? --Yurik (talk) 04:15, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
- "Card on the right" — do you mean the box with "Coordinates" at the top, immediately below Lyon (edit | Report an error)? In the Lyon example you gave, the "Article" seems rather extraneous, and the other fields below the map could really be shrunken in width; could we reduce the space a little? Plus, if we shrink the huge map's height a little bit, we could always reduce it in proportion, reducing the width a little bit as well, so we'd have a little more width in the right-side box to work with: that way, we'd have the width to put both DMS and decimal coords in the same line, which together with removing "Article", gives us two extra lines. Nyttend (talk) 04:26, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
- Correct. legoktm, what do you think? --Yurik (talk) 21:35, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
- "Card on the right" — do you mean the box with "Coordinates" at the top, immediately below Lyon (edit | Report an error)? In the Lyon example you gave, the "Article" seems rather extraneous, and the other fields below the map could really be shrunken in width; could we reduce the space a little? Plus, if we shrink the huge map's height a little bit, we could always reduce it in proportion, reducing the width a little bit as well, so we'd have a little more width in the right-side box to work with: that way, we'd have the width to put both DMS and decimal coords in the same line, which together with removing "Article", gives us two extra lines. Nyttend (talk) 04:26, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
- Nyttend, I just checked with common resolutions. It seems you have 768px height display, which is about 44% of the web users, so we should take it into account (unless the majority are mobile phones, in which case the number would be significantly lower). The question remains if this is a common enough scenario for a person with <800px height to use a link (that's why i added height logging to the KPI requirements). Regardless, I think we could make the map a bit shorter, and remove two table rows of the card on the right. What rows do you think are not needed there, and should be moved somewhere else or removed altogether? --Yurik (talk) 04:15, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
- At the very bottom of the screen is "Service/Map/Satellite/Topo/Other" and "Service/Map/Aerial/Other", the headers for the two columns. I see no links whatsoever. I wonder why I so badly misunderstood? Nyttend (talk) 03:35, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
Cross hairs
This probably is not the place to discuss this- but if not please redirect. The problem lies with the coord template used on every article. I click on it, and arrive at Geohack and the wonderful new map. I find the coordinate is tens of metres out. What I want to do is move the map slightly- right click to get a where am I?, and add the correction to the page. At the moment I have a rubber-band wrapped around my monitor to help me! Could someone overlay the map with a graticule (right click on/off if need be).
On the right click we could have the choice to have the where am in csv lat long, full coord and commons location format- and with gestures put in the heading= parameter, may be.
A second really useful feature for a content writer, would to have the open street maps Commons Overlay to show available photographs in the vicinity. On occasion a overlay of the articles in the region could be useful on an overlay, but that is low down on the wishlist.
Geohack is a useful tool in many ways- but with a few extra facilities (I think about what later) it could become more central to content writing. Clem Rutter (talk) 09:50, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
MAGIC link
The link to Defra's MAGIC map under "United Kingdom" currently 404s. The service is still there, but has moved behind an iframe. Microchip08 (talk) 01:32, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
Additional UK maplink - National Biodiversity Network
National Biodiversity Network make a roadmap/OS map, depending on scale, available with URLs such as https://data.nbn.org.uk/imt/?boundary=#0-4.377,51.713,-4.166,51.787 which looks a little like Long & Lat for the top right and a long & lat for the bottom left of the displayed map. Is this something that could be added to the Great Britain section? By the looks, it'll correct a URL which has an aspect ratio it's not expecting. thanks --Tagishsimon (talk) 23:29, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
- Unfortunately this template is only expecting one lat/lon pair, there is no means for specifying the second corner. --Redrose64 (talk) 09:56, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
- And cannot output two coords be calculated relative to the single input coord? --Tagishsimon (talk) 10:02, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
- This template is constrained by the information sent to it by https://tools.wmflabs.org/geohack/geohack.php --Redrose64 (talk) 11:41, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
- Forgive me as I nag away at this. geohack is in effect the single coord input. Cannot this coord do maths to create two long/lats for the URL output? --Tagishsimon (talk) 12:47, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
- This template is constrained by the information sent to it by https://tools.wmflabs.org/geohack/geohack.php --Redrose64 (talk) 11:41, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
- And cannot output two coords be calculated relative to the single input coord? --Tagishsimon (talk) 10:02, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
@Tagishsimon and Redrose64: This works if the coordinates are repeated. The first digit after the hash sets the zoom level; compare:
- https://data.nbn.org.uk/imt/?boundary=#0-1.920961,52.556283,-1.920961,52.556283
- https://data.nbn.org.uk/imt/?boundary=#1-1.920961,52.556283,-1.920961,52.556283
- https://data.nbn.org.uk/imt/?boundary=#2-1.920961,52.556283,-1.920961,52.556283
- https://data.nbn.org.uk/imt/?boundary=#3-1.920961,52.556283,-1.920961,52.556283
- https://data.nbn.org.uk/imt/?boundary=#4-1.920961,52.556283,-1.920961,52.556283
which use the coordinates for Great Barr Hall. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:12, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
- Good work, PotW. --Tagishsimon (talk) 13:36, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
Additional maplink: Open Street Map Topo
Open Street Map now has Topographic Maps (see de.wikipedia e.g. here). Please put a working link into the table's cell (row=Open Street Map, column=Topo) .--Patagonier (talk) 10:10, 26 June 2016 (UTC)
- I support this addition, though on a new row since it is a service distinct from OpenStreetMaps, albeit relying on OSM data. I'm a little concerned that this page gathers little interest - little enough that the idea of consensus for additions is more in hope than expectation. My April request for an addition has gone nowhere :( --Tagishsimon (talk) 12:23, 26 June 2016 (UTC)
Sandbox template & test data
We have a geotemp sandbox page - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:GeoTemplate/sandbox - and a page of test cases - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:GeoTemplate/test_coordinates - but as far as I can see, not a set of test data that can be used to test changes made in the sandbox. What am I missing? --Tagishsimon (talk) 12:23, 26 June 2016 (UTC)
JavaScript disabled??
Some of them don't work anymore. If this purposefully disabled, please reactive them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.118.100.129 (talk) 01:14, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
- I think I have this problem since 6 month sor more, so half of the page is a grey square with "JavaScript disabled" on it. It is the only GeoTemplate's version where I have this problem (all the others Geotemplates on others languages work). For me have this problems for so long, on the bigger wikipedia, is a JOKE, mostly while the foundation and others wikipedia offer a better solution... --Nouill (talk) 10:04, 14 August 2016 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 22 September 2016. New map service - Land Viewer
This edit request to Template:GeoTemplate has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Please add new global service for search and view satellite imagery.
Name: Land Viewer
template url 1: http://lv.eosda.com/?lat={latdegdec}&lng={londegdec}&z={osmzoom}&s=Landsat for search Landsat8 images
template url 2: http://lv.eosda.com/?lat={latdegdec}&lng={londegdec}&z={osmzoom}&s=Sentinel2 for search Sentinel2 images
Do I understand correctly, when the new link will appear on this page, it will appear on geohack?
Whitesamurai (talk) 08:23, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
- Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the
{{edit semi-protected}}
template. This is a requirement set by the edit notice that appears when an attempt is made to edit this page. Paine u/c 06:09, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
Removed toolserver links
Seems that we had not removed these dead links. They have been removed now, and someone may wish to check the template more thoroughly if we hadn't seen them there and dead. — billinghurst sDrewth 04:11, 13 November 2016 (UTC)
Panoramio no longer exists
Google has closed Panoramio. The GeoTemplate should no longer link to it. --Gerrit CUTEDH 00:09, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
- Done by Gerrit. — billinghurst sDrewth 04:12, 13 November 2016 (UTC)
Fix links on mapy.cz
please fix links on mapy.cz to
https://mapy.cz/?x={londegdec}&y={latdegdec}&z={osmzoom}&q={titlee} Map
https://mapy.cz/?x={londegdec}&y={latdegdec}&z={osmzoom}&q={titlee}&base=ophoto Labeled satellite
https://mapy.cz/19stoleti?x={londegdec}&y={latdegdec}&z={osmzoom}&q={titlee} Historical
https://mapy.cz/turisticka?x={londegdec}&y={latdegdec}&z={osmzoom}&q={titlee} Touristic
and add Photos section https://mapy.cz/fotograficka?x={londegdec}&y={latdegdec}&z={osmzoom}&q={titlee} Photo
and prefer move Mapy.cz to Global services - they have english version (https://en.mapy.cz), have content to whole world (or What criteria project must have?)
Kartographer extension
From a post on the OSM-talk mailing list:
Russian Wikipedia just replaced all of their map links in the upper right corner (geohack) with the <maplink> Kartographer extension! Moreover, when clicking the link, it also shows the location outline, if that object exists in OpenStreetMap with a corresponding Wikidata ID (ways and relations only, no nodes). My deepest respect to my former Interactive Team colleagues and volunteers who have made it possible! (This was community wishlist #21) Example - city of Salzburg (click coordinates in the upper right corner, or in the infobox on the side): ru:Зальцбург
Note that the kind of additional links provided by Geohack are still available under the "More details" link.
What are our plans for switching to this service? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 07:32, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
Great Britain - getamap service no longer exists
Ordnance Survey has closed getamap and replaced it with a new service, OS Maps. Like getamap, it can generate a view of a place based on x/y coordinates like https://osmaps.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/osmaps/50.9126070560,-1.3705891493,14 where the first value is x position, second is y position and third is zoom level. 14 gives a large scale view suitable for most points, lower numbers give smaller scale views. Basic map is public to all users with no registration.
Can someone with skills and edit rights please replace this for GeoTemplate GB block. JonathanElder (talk) 17:15, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
Please update National Library of Scotland link
The existing National Library of Scotland link to http://nls.tileserver.com/ is less useful than linking directly to http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/ where many other layers of historical mapping relating to the United Kingdom can be viewed. I work at the NLS on digital mapping. To do this, please could the link for this which is currently:
| National library of Scotland | | OS maps
be updated to:
| National Library of Scotland | |OS maps
— Preceding unsigned comment added by ChrisFleet (talk • contribs) 18:12, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
- Done. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:27, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
Order of popular icons Suggestion
Hi, the additional of 4 icons to popular map services at the top is a welcome change. On my narrow browser window, though, they appear in two columns:
Bing Google Maps Google Earth OSM
I think would look better if the Google ones were on the same row. How about changing the order to OSM, Bing, Google Maps and Google Earth? Listing OSM first also encourages use of open formats, and Google Earth last because it opens a different program than the other three.
Thanks,
cmɢʟee⎆τaʟκ 13:45, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
Bing Maps Ordnance Survey link
A recent edit (possibly this by User:Dispenser) has removed the link for British coordinates to the Bing OS Maps view. This link was valuable. These maps are different from these provided by the Ordnance Survey link, and are the best topographical maps for Britain. I often used this link to produce coordinate values for Wikipedia articles, by manually editing the URL that it generated. This is much more difficult without the link. Can we have this back please? Verbcatcher (talk) 03:54, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
- Sorry about that. I only noticed the language code
en-gb
as being different from the global links when culling. I've added added the OS layer link back. Ideally, everything would be in m:WikiMiniAtlas privacy be damned. — Dispenser 04:19, 5 March 2017 (UTC)- What else was lost in the course of these twenty edits? Since it comes to that, where were such massive changes discussed beforehand? --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 12:54, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
- For one, the link
[[World Geodetic System|WGS84]]
was removed; it should be restored. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 23:48, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
- For one, the link
- What else was lost in the course of these twenty edits? Since it comes to that, where were such massive changes discussed beforehand? --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 12:54, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
Do we need a big map on this page?
Do we really need a big map on this page? The whole point of this is to direct the user to a map of their choice, not to force our choice on them. I find it gets in the way - previously the links I wanted for the UK were immediately available on the right hand side, now I have to scroll down to find them. Please reconsider! Optimist on the run (talk) 18:17, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
- I assume that by "big map" you mean the one below the heading "Wikimedia maps". I only see this if the
region:
parameter isn't set. Compare 51°36′22″N 1°14′28″W / 51.606°N 1.241°W with 51°36′22″N 1°14′28″W / 51.606°N 1.241°W. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 20:46, 14 March 2017 (UTC)- Ah - that was the problem - the article in question hadn't got it set. Now fixed. Optimist on the run (talk) 21:08, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
"The whole point of this is to direct the user to a map of their choice"
is there any evidence that that's what most users want? I strongly suspect that they just want to see a map. I like the Russian Wikipedia model, for example on ru:Страсбург, which shows a clear, free, map, and has all the other links on a menu. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 09:04, 15 March 2017 (UTC)- If you just want a link to one map, you can use the script detailed in the FAQ at the top of this page. Personally I use several, depending on what I need it for; usually OS Streetmap, Google or Geocaching. Anyway, it seems that there's been no significant change - it was just missing info from the page that directed me to this template. Optimist on the run (talk) 09:32, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
- This isn't about what I - nor any other individual editor - want. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:50, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
- If you just want a link to one map, you can use the script detailed in the FAQ at the top of this page. Personally I use several, depending on what I need it for; usually OS Streetmap, Google or Geocaching. Anyway, it seems that there's been no significant change - it was just missing info from the page that directed me to this template. Optimist on the run (talk) 09:32, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
Videomapia.org
Please add a service Videomapia.org
This is a video search using the map.
http://videomapia.org/map3.php#16/35.688707/139.766221
http://videomapia.org/map3.php#{osmzoom}/{latdegdec}/{londegdec} — Preceding unsigned comment added by FederikoC (talk • contribs) 18:59, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
Push-pin missing in Bing
Where has the push-pin symbol in Bing gone? --тнояsтеn ⇔ 10:47, 18 April 2017 (UTC)
GB Streetmap
When using https, linking to GB Streetmap fails, http has to be forced. Streetmap help only mentions http. http://streetmap.co.uk/idlinkto.htm Thincat (talk) 13:24, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
- Fixed links: [2]. --тнояsтеn ⇔ 13:46, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
- Thank you. That is now working for me. Thincat (talk) 14:25, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
Map services in China
Change to existing:
- Google Maps China should probably be updated to "http://www.google.cn/maps/" as root URL, since google.com is entirely blocked in China, users in China would need to use VPN for the current link to work.
New Linkable Services:
- Amap - the URL is fairly self explanatory, and looks close enough to WGS. ( Example http://ditu.amap.com/regeo?lng=117.283333&lat=31.866667&name=Hefei )
Others:
- Sogou Map - uses a coordinate system that I am not aware off. It might be translatable, but I can't figure out. ( Example: http://map.sogou.com/index.html#c=13058250,3728437.5,11 )
- Tencent QQ Map - uses a hash for URL linking ( URL example http://map.qq.com/?l=08993c5d65d1659bdf9e2905489d6e28 )
- Mapbar - uses a hash system for URL linking ( URL http://www.mapbar.com/search/ )
All seem to have JS-based API that supports long/lat input, as demonstrated with this website. Someone with time might be able to figure out how to integrate with them. --Voidvector (talk) 00:15, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
HERE maps domain
HERE changed domain for their web maps to wego.here.com. Current domain points to company page and doesn't show map anymore.
The lines containing HERE URLs should be updated to:
| [https://wego.here.com/location/?map={latdegdec},{londegdec},{osmzoom},normal&msg={titlee} Map] | [https://wego.here.com/location/?map={latdegdec},{londegdec},{osmzoom},satellite&msg={titlee} Satellite] | [https://wego.here.com/location/?map={latdegdec},{londegdec},{osmzoom},terrain&msg={titlee} Terrain]
- done —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 09:34, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
More cleanup
I've done some more cleanup after finding a few problems. I don't have the time to check all the region based links, but someone check that at some point for similar problems. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 10:01, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
Add nefsc.noaa.gov
Is it possible to add nefsc.noaa.gov instead of removed mapserver.maptech.com that's not working but is related? --Obsuser (talk) 16:54, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
Open Street Map Topo
Open Street Map now has Topographic Maps (see link on de.wikipedia e.g. here). Can I please have concensus to add it to table="Global service", row="Open Street Map", column="More". Of course, I am also happy if someone else (probably with experience in template programming) adds it for me. --Patagonier (talk) 22:40, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
All coordinates incomplete?
Unless I am misunderstanding something, the coordinates provided in the GeoTemplate (as well as GeoHack coordinates) seem to allow specification of two dimensions (latitude and longitude, or equivalent). I live in a world of three spatial dimensions, and I would like to be able to specify the third coordinate. For instance, all geodetic coordinates are incomplete unless one specifies a height above the reference ellipsoid, which the template does not seem to support. What are the prospects for including a field for geodetic height or geocentric radius? Thank you. JeanLucMargot (talk) 05:57, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
- @JeanLucMargot: It would be possible to add this to GeoHack and the template, but I'm not sure if you'd want to do that since (a) GeoHack is probably being replaced by Kartographer at some point*, and (b) it wouldn't actually display on a two-dimensional map so it wouldn't be particularly helpful for most users. The elevation data for geographic objects can always be added to Wikidata items with the elevation above sea level (P2044) property.
- * I'm not sure when this would be, since the rollout is indefinitely suspended or something and the replacement of GeoHack here would be dependent on enwiki volunteer editors. Jc86035 (talk) 08:14, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
- Geohack uses WGS 84 coordinates. For points on the Earth's surface no elevation is needed. --тнояsтеn ⇔ 18:09, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
- I agree with the statement for points on an ellipsoid representation of Earth's surface. But Earth's surface is not ellipsoidal and most points on Earth's surface are not on that ellipsoid. A complete geodetic representation includes latitude, longitude, height above the reference ellipsoid, and specification of the reference ellipsoid (in this case, WGS 84). JeanLucMargot (talk) 19:03, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
- Geohack uses WGS 84 coordinates. For points on the Earth's surface no elevation is needed. --тнояsтеn ⇔ 18:09, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
Mapquest link broken
Mapquest links seems to be broken on pages like this. Should the url just be `https://www.mapquest.com/?center={latdegdec},{londegdec}&zoom={osmzoom}` ?-- PlaneMad|YakYak 09:02, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
- Should we even keep showing that thing to begin with ? It's so infested with ads these days... —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 12:01, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
- I gave it a try: diff. --тнояsтеn ⇔ 12:07, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
- And another: diff. Seems to work (Documentation was not too clear to understand for myself). --тнояsтеn ⇔ 12:13, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
World Time engine broken
The link to the World Time Engine service of Timezone in tools.wmflabs.org is broken. All requests lead to an internal error of some script executed inside these links. - R. J. Mathar (talk) 12:10, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
Geolocation.ws lost
The link to the geolocation.ws service in tools.wmflabs.org is doomed. The URL has been resold to some (apparently randomized) advertising company. See also equivalent warning - R. J. Mathar (talk) 12:16, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
- Deleted geolocation.ws: [3]. --тнояsтеn ⇔ 12:26, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
Update Google Earth links
Hi, the Google Earth template still links to a .kml file even though Google Earth is a proper web app these days and could be linked directly (like this). Could this be changed? --85.182.8.40 (talk) 18:58, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
- Doesn't work with Firefox and Edge. --тнояsтеn ⇔ 19:20, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
- Ok, but it will probably very soon. --62.225.39.28 (talk) 11:31, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
Proposed additional mapping service: The Photographer's Ephemeris
Would it be possible to consider adding The Photographer's Ephemeris as an additional source under 'Other information'? TPE provides map-based view of sun and moon azimuth and altitude, plus geodetic tools (great circle distance, altitude difference, azimuth). While primarily intended for photographers, it is also used in investigations of sun/moon alignments in man-made structures.
Example URL format (documented here): https://app.photoephemeris.com/?ll={latdegdec},{londegdec}¢er={latdegdec},{londegdec}&z={zoom}
Example, San Francisco: https://app.photoephemeris.com/?ll=37.774929,-122.419416&z=12¢er=37.7749,-122.4194
(Disclosure: I am the tool's author. Similar to PeakFinder.org, we offer paid mobile apps in addition to the free web app.)
Add a "make fullscreen" button to Wikimedia Maps map
The Wikimedia Maps map is great. Now just add a button that people can press to make it full screen. Jidanni (talk) 10:10, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
- There should at least be a clickable image. For instance, clicking on the map at {{GeoTemplate/venus}} should bring you to the Wikimedia page for Venus_map_NASA_JPL_Magellan-Venera-Pioneer.jpg. This is the expected behavior for all other Wikipedia images, how do we make that work here? Hadron137 (talk) 04:57, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
Norkart Virtual Globe
User:ComputerHotline, why did you delete "Norkart Virtual Globe" [4] ?? -188.194.15.153 (talk) 15:34, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
- Invalid web site --ComputerHotline (talk) 16:26, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
- Why? Needs Java but works fine for me. -188.194.15.153 (talk) 16:29, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
New Map Type Capabilities for ACME Mapper =
ACME Mapper recently switched from the Google Maps API to Leaflet.js[1]. In the process, some of the map types changed. In particular, the Satellite map type no longer has labels. However, Mapper now has the ability to add overlays, and includes a labels overlay. Since GeoHack users are probably used to seeing Mapper's satellite maps with labels, I suggest changing the URL generated for Satellite so it says "t=SL" instead of "t=S". I'd do it myself but I am not an extendedconfirmed user. Jef (talk) 14:13, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
- Done. But this (or rather at least the satellite identifier change) will also need to be done for Kartographer, which will require an actual code change i think. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 14:23, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
Question about some map services
- The "National Atlas of Canada" link for Canada is just a link to the map service, should that be included there?
- The map service under Mongolia is just a link to Google Map Chinese version. Why is that placed there?
- Can anyone help figure out how to link the map service of the following?
- Naver Map (South Korea)
- Daum Map (South Korea)
- Korea Tourism Organization Interactive Map (South Korea)
- CentaMap (Hong Kong)
- http://hk.centamap.com/gc/home.aspx?x=841421&y=815602&sx=841421.63818&sy=815602.18537&z=2 <-- (z=2 is zoom level, coordinate system is hk1980 grid coordinates?)
- GeoInfo Map (Hong Kong)
- Mapa On-line de Macau (Macao)
- Mapbar (China) (Conversion tool available online to convert into the coordinate system used by this map service)
- MapmyIndia (India) (Apparently this one encoded coordinates in an alphanumeric format)
ACME Mapper no longer forgets
Since ACME Mapper's recent update, I find that although GeoHack tries to send me to the correct location in ACME Mapper, ACME Mapper rebels and takes me to whatever location I previously visited. I don't know whether this can be fixed by a change here, or whether something at ACME needs to change. Andrew Dalby 15:07, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Jef poskanzer: can you help out ? —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 08:37, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
- OK, Jef answered my query at ACME, and it seems I just needed to reload after clicking on the ACME link -- which is fine now that I know. Not sure if this affects other users also. Andrew Dalby 08:38, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
Show marker on map.geo.admin.ch
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add &crosshair=marker to map.geo.admin.ch (Switzerland and Liechtenstein): It's very easy to get lost when zooming in without any guidance where the object is located. 1-Byte (talk) 11:12, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
- @1-Byte: DoneC933103 (talk) 11:25, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
Update GIS-ZH (Switzerland)
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- Change "GIS-Zentrum" to "GIS-Browser"
- Update URL: http://maps.zh.ch?topic=BASISKARTEZH&scale=10000&x={ch1903easting}&y={ch1903northing}&markers=ring
-- 1-Byte (talk) 08:34, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
- Done L293D (☎ • ✎) 18:26, 31 August 2018 (UTC)