Template talk:Infobox concert tour

Geographic tag

I'm thinking of adding another tag to note whether it was a World tour, North American tour, European tour, etc... Any suggestions? --Madchester 19:56, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

Extra tour chronology template

I have created the {{Extra tour chronology}} template for use in articles about tours which featured various artists. The template goes inside the "Misc" parameter of this template. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Crashintome4196 (talk • contribs) 16:13, 28 March 2007 (UTC).

Font size used in template

the font size in the "concert tour" template appear larger than in others (and also larger than normal font size of characters within an article. is there a reason?--71.183.238.134 (talk) 07:50, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

• 17Jun09: I have reset the image-caption text to font-size 87% with line-height:1.3em, and reduced the general font-size to 92% on each line (except the tour Chronology). The general text size had been the same as other text, but perhaps seemed bigger due to the labels with bold-face font. -Wikid77 (talk) 12:01, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Tour chronology

It sorta puzzles me why that header, with the "(Artist) tour chronology", is not centered. I've tried adding text-align: center CSS to the colspan, but it won't work. Can someone help out? hbdragon88 (talk) 20:48, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

I think i've managed to do this, it was bugging the hell out of me. just added align=center on this line - ! colspan=3 align=center style="background-color: #dcf" {{!}} {{#if:{{{Chronology|}}}| {{{Chronology}}}| {{{altArtist|{{{artist}}}}}} tour}} chronology Suede67 (talk) 16:23, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Associated album

I've changed the text that the 'album' parameter generates from "Supporting album" to "Associated album". Up through the mid-1990s, it's true that artists often toured at a loss or break-even point in order to promote ("support") their latest album, and it was through their album sales that the artists made their money. However, since then the whole industry has changed, with the collapse of physical album sales and the lesser revenues gained from digital downloads. Now, especially for veterans such as McCartney, Springsteen, the Stones, etc., and even more recent acts, artists make far more money from their tours than they do from their albums. Consider the grosses of the U2 360° Tour compared to sales of No Line on the Horizon, for example. So if anything, album releases now give artists an excuse to tour again; the commercial relationship between the two has been reversed. So the phrase used in regard to 'album' parameter needs to be flexible enough to span all eras and all commercial relationships, and "associated" seems to fit. Wasted Time R (talk) 11:16, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

A related note: is it possible to change it from "Associated album" to "Associated album(s)", as there may be one or more albums that support a tour, for example the My World Tour and The Labyrinth? Thanks. :) Yvesnimmo (talk) 23:38, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Images in template

I just started "fixing" images in a bunch of pages that were showing "File:" etc., and finally realized it's actually the template that's broken. I am not up to speed on how the template system works, but hopefully someone who is can look into it. Maghnus (talk) 02:19, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

It's not broken. I made a number of updates & tweaks to it, among them standardizing a default image size. All you have to do is remove the coding around the affected image, leaving only the filename itself. In other words, use Example.jpg, not File:Example.jpg or [[File:Example.jpg|220px|abc]]. --IllaZilla (talk) 04:11, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Ok, good, that's what I had started doing before I noticed various other infoboxes were showing correctly with the linked images, so I figured it was a problem with this one. Is there a way to get a list of pages using a given template? Maghnus (talk) 07:27, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

"What links here" works for templates too. Wasted Time R (talk) 11:47, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Some will show a change immediately, others will take more time as the wiki software catches up. I've been going through "What links here" and correcting affected articles manually, but there are hundreds so any help would be appreciated. --IllaZilla (talk) 17:53, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

 Done I believe I've fixed all usages in the article namespace. Any strays should be easily fixed. Some images may need to have the image_size or landscape parameters applied in order to give a better presentation (image_size for images less than 220px wide, landscape for wide, short images). --IllaZilla (talk) 00:01, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

The new image code is overwrought and doesn't obey user default thumbnail sizes; I've simplified it to bring it in line with the styling and metrics used on most infoboxes. This shouldn't have caused any fallout, save for shrinking portrait images a bit by default (which is intentional). Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward: not at work) - talk 15:17, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

Looks goot to me. I was pretty much copying from {{Infobox musical artist}} when I made the tweaks (since I'm not good with code), so I trust your expertise. --IllaZilla (talk) 16:47, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

I have no idea what is going on, but whatever that's being done, it is messing up the some images. Added a section to an article, and the image in the infobox shrinks. Why? Hzh (talk) 02:01, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

The default image size was adjusted to obey user default thumbnail sizes. The Wikipedia software takes some time to catch all pages up with this change, but it will show immediately if you make an edit to the page. If you would like the images to display larger by default, you can adjust your default thumbnail size under "my preferences" in the upper right of your screen. --IllaZilla (talk) 02:04, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

But why is the thumbnail size inside the infobox much smaller than another outside it? (example removed because I have changed the page) Hzh (talk) 16:15, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

I don't know. Ask Chris. I'm not good with this stuff. --IllaZilla (talk) 16:40, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Just need to add a note on the main page that image can reduce significantly in the infobox so that users of the template aren't left wondering what is happening. Reducing 300px to 220px is almost a 50% reduction, although here it looks to me it's a 220px to 170px reduction in the infobox which is 40% smaller.Hzh (talk) 11:17, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

If landscape is omitted then the image uses the upright with value instead of frameless. This is expected behaviour. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward: not at work) - talk 12:10, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

That isn't really the point. It's the unexplained reduction of the width from 220px to perhaps 170px in the infobox. It is not shrinking a bit, it is shrinking by a lot. Hzh (talk) 13:20, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Portrait-aspect images shouldn't use the full thumbnail width in the first place. It results in infoboxes which end up over a page long. It can be overridden where desperately needed by manually specifying a size, but deliberately oversizing them is a bad idea. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward: not at work) - talk 13:25, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Template not working

Can someone fix it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Meany (talk • contribs) 20:24, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Could you give an example of an article where it's not working? I just took a look at 5 articles at random via what links here and it seems to be working fine in all cases. --IllaZilla (talk) 22:13, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Errors

I am not sure what changes have happened to the template, however, when using Template:Extra tour chronology, the entire infobox is broken. Verizon Ladies First Tour is an example. --Itsbydesign (talk) 08:51, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Probably caused by this edit, where Thumperward converted the template to use {{Infobox}}. You might ask him to fix it or, if he can't, revert it so that someone else can take a look at it. --IllaZilla (talk) 08:55, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Can we add a border to the images?

I mean, there's one to add for album covers that's background is white or close to it. Why not one for here? — Status {^talk_contribs 05:35, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Could you give an example of an article where this would be needed? --IllaZilla (talk) 07:43, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Madonna World Tour — Status {^talk_contribs 08:25, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

OK, I'll make the request. --IllaZilla (talk) 16:00, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Please add support for a "border" parameter like that of Template:Infobox album#Border and Template:Infobox film#Parameters. I'm no good with code, but it can probably be copied from one of those infoboxes. --IllaZilla (talk) 16:05, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

The template is only semi-protected so you should be able to do it yourself. -- WOSlinker (talk) 17:12, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Itallics

Any reason why concert tours don't get the same itallic titles as other mediums? Eladkse (talk) 17:20, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

Because a tour isn't a medium. Italics are for the titles of published works: books, albums, films, plays, etc. A concert tour isn't a published work, it's an event. Italicizing the name of a concert tour would be akin to italicizing World War II or Super Bowl XXX. --IllaZilla (talk) 19:39, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

Like IllaZilla said. See also MOS:MUSIC#Popular music. It also makes it easy to distinguish tours from the albums or songs they are frequently named after. Wasted Time R (talk) 00:50, 21 March 2012 (UTC)