Template talk:Infobox food

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Latest comment: 30 days ago by DocWatson42 in topic Broken parameter in "Semla"

Broken Wikibooks referrer

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Not sure why/when this started happening... but somehow the cookbook search link always appears now. For example on Keledoş. I don't think that should be the case unless there's a parameter for 'cookbook' called, right? effeietsanders 04:48, 13 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

Never mind, seems broken by design. It's confusing to me to have documentation say that everything is optional, but then you have a field that's active by default :). It's an odd assumption that everything is in the Cookbook that has an article on Wikipedia? Probably better to rely on Wikidata for that. effeietsanders 05:18, 13 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

name_italics

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Could the "for example" in name_italics's description please be moved to the front of the example sentence, in order to avoid dubious wording? 8ya (talkcontribs) 14:38, 5 June 2021 (UTC) Also it looks like, at least in the editing preview, that using name-italics doesn't actually change anything 8ya (talkcontribs) 14:43, 5 June 2021 (UTC)Reply

place of origin/country

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Does anyone know why 'country' appears as 'place of origin' on the wiki page? For older foods, 'place of origin' seems a more accurate description.Halbared (talk) 08:54, 22 June 2021 (UTC)Reply

Template-protected edit request on 31 May 2022

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Very small request, and not really that important but could someone add in the usage section, for the last element, "no_recipes", a space before the equal sign? Just for consistency with all the other elements. Thanks AdrianHObradors (talk) 10:12, 31 May 2022 (UTC)Reply

  Not done: {{edit template-protected}} is usually not required for edits to the documentation or categories of templates using a documentation subpage. Use the 'edit' link at the top of the green "Template documentation" box to edit the documentation subpage. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:54, 31 May 2022 (UTC)Reply
Oh, I found it now! Thanks @Jonesey95 AdrianHObradors (talk) 17:03, 31 May 2022 (UTC)Reply

Suppress cookbook parameter

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It's come up before, and I'd like to formally request a way to suppress the automatic cookbook link. (I wish there were a way external links could be red.) Better to miss a few opportunities for a real link than to habitually mislead readers by pointing them to nonexistent pages on a sister project. I experienced this myself as a reader—from Sacchettoni, but I'm sure there are many examples. --BDD (talk) 00:33, 25 June 2022 (UTC)Reply

I wholeheartedly agree that the "Cookbook" link should be suppressed unless the template invocation positively indicates the desire to have that link present. (The indication could be a non-null value given for cookbook.) Most template usages have a useless link appear which dumps the user onto the page of a failed Wikibook search. - R. S. Shaw (talk) 06:30, 27 June 2022 (UTC)Reply
  Fixed --- the current version only automatically links to the cookbook if Wikidata says it exists. You can use |cookbook= to override and force a link. You can also use |no_recipe= to suppress it entirely. — hike395 (talk) 05:02, 1 August 2022 (UTC)Reply

Replace "country" parameter name

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The existence of the country parameter is a perennial source of nationalistic food fights all over Wikipedia, and is unhelpful in the majority of cases, where food items predate modern country boundaries. The label for the parameter was changed to Place of origin way back in 2009. It's long past time that an alternate parameter name was made available and preferred over country. I suggest place_of_origin, reflecting the label. The old name can be retained as an alternate parameter name for compatibility, or it can be deprecated and systematically replaced. --Paul_012 (talk) 01:47, 19 August 2022 (UTC)Reply

Also, national_cuisine could be replaced with associated_cuisine, as it only needs to link to a Fooian cuisine article, and there are such articles (e.g. Mediterranean cuisine, Cajun cuisine) whose scope isn't strictly national. --Paul_012 (talk) 01:50, 19 August 2022 (UTC)Reply

  Done --- template now accepts |place_of_origin= as well as |associated_cuisine=. — hike395 (talk) 13:36, 22 August 2022 (UTC)Reply

Semi-protected edit request

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Under the Parameter definitions, for place of origin, please state that it typically means country of origin in parenthesis. 2600:100C:A210:2BB2:D065:41F0:97B6:9328 (talk) 21:38, 10 January 2023 (UTC)Reply

  Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit template-protected}} template. This parameter has been populated with a variety of place names. See the Template Data monthly report (scroll to place_of_origin and click "Click to show") for a list. – Jonesey95 (talk) 21:58, 10 January 2023 (UTC)Reply

Template-protected edit request on 12 January 2023

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Description of suggested change:

Disclaimer: I am not fluent in Template syntax.

Currently, both the parameters "creator" and "creators" are accepted. However, when only "creators" is specified, the check for unknown parameters still shows an error, claiming "creators" is not a known parameter.

I am guessing (not being familiar with the unknown parameters check), that this is due to "creators" not being listed in the call to

{{#invoke:check for unknown parameters...

I suppose adding "creators" to the list of parameter names will fix this (but once again, I don't know how this code handles "both parameters are supported" type parameters).

Diff:

Old:

{{#invoke:check for unknown parameters|check
|unknown={{main other|[[Category:Pages using infobox food with unknown parameters|_VALUE_]]}}
|preview=unknown parameter "_VALUE_"
|alt|alternate name|alternate_name|associated_cuisine|belowstyle|calories|calories_ref|caption|carbohydrate|commons|cookbook|country
|course|creator|fat|glycemic_index|image|image_alt|image_size|main_ingredient|maxtime|minor_ingredient|mintime
|name|name_italics|name_lang|national_cuisine|no_commons|no_recipes|other|place_of_origin|protein|qid|region|served|serving_size

|similar_dish|time1|time2|type|variations|year}}

New:

{{#invoke:check for unknown parameters|check
|unknown={{main other|[[Category:Pages using infobox food with unknown parameters|_VALUE_]]}}
|preview=unknown parameter "_VALUE_"
|alt|alternate name|alternate_name|associated_cuisine|belowstyle|calories|calories_ref|caption|carbohydrate|commons|cookbook|country
|course|creator|creators|fat|glycemic_index|image|image_alt|image_size|main_ingredient|maxtime|minor_ingredient|mintime
|name|name_italics|name_lang|national_cuisine|no_commons|no_recipes|other|place_of_origin|protein|qid|region|served|serving_size

|similar_dish|time1|time2|type|variations|year}}

RudolfSchreier (talk) 09:33, 12 January 2023 (UTC)Reply

  Donehike395 (talk) 12:13, 12 January 2023 (UTC)Reply

Image size

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Should this template use

| image_upright =

instead of

| image_size =

Or could we allow both? I'm wondering because of what I'm reading at MOS:IMAGESIZE. Valereee (talk) 14:47, 13 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

This template should certainly support |image_upright=. There are 2,951 articles using |image_size=, so it should continue to be supported for now but use should be deprecated. Plantdrew (talk) 16:24, 13 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
Plantdrew, apologies for my ignorance -- are you saying we should add |image_upright= to this template, and start going through articles to change the use of |image_size= to |image_upright= (and maybe insert a hidden comment that image-size should not be used?) so that we can remove it sometime in the future? Valereee (talk) 16:29, 13 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
I've marked |image_size= as deprecated at Template:Infobox food/TemplateData. We should add |image_upright= to this template. 16:43, 13 May 2024 (UTC) Plantdrew (talk) 16:43, 13 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
  Done. Template accepts either |upright= or |image_upright=. Default value is now |upright=1hike395 (talk) 17:17, 13 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
Thank you both! Valereee (talk) 17:19, 13 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Broken parameter in "Semla"

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Greetings and felicitations. In the article semla the Commons link is broken. I've checked both the infobox there and the Wikidata item, and have found nothing obviously amiss at either place. Would someone else please be so kind as to take a look? —DocWatson42 (talk) 05:42, 4 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

  Fixed It's because the name parameter used {{lang}}. I removed the template and that fixed the problem. — hike395 (talk) 05:58, 4 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
Thank you. ^_^ —DocWatson42 (talk) 05:59, 4 October 2024 (UTC)Reply