Talk:Isotopes of lutetium

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Latest comment: 5 months ago by 2A01:E34:EC74:7170:C92D:3550:651:9FE3 in topic Why lutetium-176 is so stable

sortin on half life

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Hi, i just tried to make the isotopes sortable by (eg) half life value, but its a bit complicated, any help is appreciated! Stratoprutser (talk) 10:46, 7 April 2015 (UTC)Reply

So sorting on half life goes with the "data-sort-values", where:
  1. ns
  2. µs
  3. ms
  4. s
  5. min
  6. h
  7. d
  8. a
...followed by a numerical value with as much significant zeroes as the largest value requires (sorting strings!), eg. data-sort-value='7(d) 006.6475' for 6.6475 days, as there's also data-sort-value='7(d) 160.44' for 160.44(6) d(ays)(177m3Lu).
Do note that sorting doesn't go entirely flawless, due to the row and col spanning applied in the table, but its better then none :) Stratoprutser (talk) 14:44, 12 April 2015 (UTC)Reply
Out of curiosity: can sorting handle scientific notations of numbers correctly? 129.104.241.242 (talk) 11:38, 3 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Why lutetium-176 is so stable

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There are two problems here. The first is that 176Lu has a high spin of 7−, while its decay product 176Hf has a spin of 0+ like all even-even nuclei. The second is that, while 176Hf has low-energy excited states with spins 6+ and 8+ that 176Lu could decay to (these are only first-forbidden), the spin of 176Lu is intrinsic while those of these excited states of 176Hf are due to collective nuclear rotation, which results in a terrible match. Much the same thing happens with 236Np, though I imagine its half-life is a lot shorter because alpha decay to 232Pa is also possible for it. Double sharp (talk) 13:46, 20 July 2016 (UTC)Reply

Not exactly for 236Np: its alpha decay branching ratio is only 0.16%. 129.104.241.214 (talk) 21:28, 24 January 2024 (UTC)Reply
A more appropriate analogue would be 248Bk, whose 6+ spin is intrinsic while the 6+ spin of 248Cf is due to collective nuclear rotation. 129.104.241.193 (talk) 13:31, 4 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
In any case, the longevity of 176Lu has quite different machanism compared with other known non-beta-stable nuclides with beta half-life at least 1010 years. 2A01:E34:EC74:7170:C92D:3550:651:9FE3 (talk) 17:18, 5 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Lutetium-176 is also energically allowed to undergo alpha decay to Thullium-172, with alpha energy 1.567 MeV with projected half-live about 10^40 years. Lutetium-175 is also energically allowed to undergo alpha decay to Thullium-171, with alpha energy 1.6198 MeV with projected half-live about 10^35 years.Cristiano Toàn (talk) 02:33, 26 January 2024 (UTC) contribs) 00:31, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

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Possible alpha decay of 152Lu

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According to the Geiger-Nuttall law, 152Lu (N = 81) should have a partial alpha decay half-life at the order of 108 years, corresponding to an alpha decay probability at the order of 10-15%. 129.104.241.214 (talk) 00:29, 28 October 2023 (UTC)Reply