Template talk:Infobox song

New parametre - Single

As not all song are from albums, I think "single" should be applied when there is no corresponding album. For example, Bubble Gum by NewJeans corresponds with the single How Sweet, not the album How Sweet, as there is no album by that name. ValenciaThunderbolt (talk) 14:22, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

You can already do that by entering "single" in |type=. Richard3120 (talk) 21:16, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

@Richard3120: That's different. It currently reads "Single by NewJeans from the album How Sweet", which implies there is an album called "How Sweet", which isn't true. I'd like it to be ""Song by NewJeans from the single How Sweet", as that is more accurate. ValenciaThunderbolt (talk) 08:55, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

Well, I would just blank |album= and change |type= to "single"... I don't agree with the description of "Bubble Gum" as the B-side to "How Sweet" anyway, because they appear to be two songs on a single album, with equal billing for both songs. Richard3120 (talk) 21:46, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

Uncredited producer

If a song has no credited producer, should something be placed in the producer box? I feel like putting something like "uncredited" or "unknown" would make it clear that there genuinely is no producer credit, as opposed to an editor simply forgetting to put the producer credit in when making the infobox. Off the top of my head, I know Take a Knee, My Ass (I Won't Take a Knee) and All Cried Out (Kree Harrison song) did not have producer credits, and both currently use "unknown" in that field. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 20:47, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

Edit Request 4 September 2024

I think this template should have an “included on” for a second album as so singles won’t get confused as being a single from an album the song wasn’t released as a single from. For example, Soon (LeAnn Rimes song) is a song that was released as a single, however there are no sources saying the song was released as a single from the album that it has appeared on so instead of the infobox saying “Single by LeAnn Rimes from the album I Need You” there should be a second album option for it to say “Single by LeAnn Rimes included on the album I Need You” because the word from makes it sound like it’s a single from the album even though there is no such source claiming that. It would also give other songs such as Can't Fight the Moonlight to say it’s a single from the soundtrack for Coyote Ugly and included on the album I Need You. It’s just a way to fix the grammar so people don’t accidentally think that songs are singles from two different albums when they may only be a single from one album. 2600:1015:B13F:BED:B4CF:66FB:DC8:1764 (talk) 10:39, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit template-protected}} template. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:41, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

Score

For PD songs, a "score" param, for an image or markup of the score, would be great. A soundfile (or MIDI from the score) would also be good. See Mo li hua for an example. HLHJ (talk) 19:44, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

Relevance/usage of Song/Single Infobox versus relevance/usage of cover image

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tl;dr

If a cover single is significant enough to warrant an infobox, is it also significant enough to warrant an cover image?

I have encountered this situation several times and feel like I'm banging my head on a wall. I couldn't find any guidance on this topic and hoping ya'll can help!

I've had a number of single images removed from single covers due to significance concerns. In these cases, the single infobox remained, but the image was removed. I was thinking that if a single infobox was warranted, then so would an image of the single's cover.

Example

Jump, Jive an' Wail, a song 1950's song by Louis Prima, was covered by The Brian Setzer Orchestra in the 1990's. The cover charted and won a Grammy. It is also referenced in the Swing revival article.

Should the discussion be focused on the significance of the cover single and have that drive inclusion (or not) of the infobox and the image? Or are the two separate determinations?

Thanks all! WidgetKid (talk) 16:42, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

In that example, the cover image itself, File:The Brian Setzer Orchestra - Jump Jive an Wail Cover.jpg, was deleted from Wikipedia via the proposed deletion (PROD) process. The removal of the File: reference from the infobox was incidental. You can request that the file go through a deletion review if you do not understand the reason for its deletion. PROD is supposed to be for uncontroversial deletion, and it sounds like you object. – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:42, 21 November 2024 (UTC)