Template talk:Infobox sports team
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Founded linkage
editI notice that anonymour user(s) want to delink the founded field from XXXX in sports to no preformned linkage. Although I understand that some users feel that a year should not link to XXXX in sports, but rather XXXX season in specific sport, but changes to such a highly-used template should be listed here first. Any discussion? Flibirigit (talk) 22:58, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
- I would like to propose to add a parser function that allows an editor to chose whether they want a date to link to "XXXX in sports" or to a season article such as "1977-78 XXX season". Any comments? Flibirigit (talk) 00:08, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
Merger
editCan somebody add an parameter under "sport=" that allows games that are not strictly sports to be added?--Prisencolin (talk) 23:52, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
- Prisencolin, added
|game=
and|games=
as an alternative to|sport=
and|sports=
. note you can change the label with|sports_label=
. Frietjes (talk) 19:55, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
Parameter former/old names
edit@Frietjes: I don't know who else to ask, so I simply would like to know if you could add a parameter called former/old names? I would like to add that info in the infobox of an article about a sports club which I created. Thanks in advance. Akocsg (talk) 15:03, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
- Akocsg, this is what the
|history=
parameter is for. Primefac (talk) 15:17, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
- Primefac Ok thanks, didn't know that. Though it's strange that it is labeled that way, instead of simply "old names" or something. Akocsg (talk) 15:21, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
- I suppose the history could include a wide variety of things. I'll update the /doc to make it a bit clearer. Primefac (talk) 15:36, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
- Primefac Ok thanks, didn't know that. Though it's strange that it is labeled that way, instead of simply "old names" or something. Akocsg (talk) 15:21, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
Can someone please add a field for "owners" and "technical director"?
editThank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tylermachanic (talk • contribs) 15:41, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
- We already have
|owner=
, and I'm not sure why we'd need a field for "technical director". Primefac (talk) 16:23, 7 March 2018 (UTC)- I know we have owner but if a team has 4 owners it should say owners, not owner. We have fields for plural versions of other fields already so why can't we have one for owner? Also I was told that it would be easier to ask someone to make a new field than to try to change the name of the field specifically on one page. For technical director, one of the owners of the team I'm editing's page told me to add this so I would really appreciate if it was added. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tylermachanic (talk • contribs) 16:30, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
- Well, first off, if you're being paid or otherwise connected to a company that you're writing for, you need to disclose that on your userpage - see WP:PAID. Second off, fair point with "owners", I've added in a plurality option. Third, the template already has
|coach_label=
and|coach=
as catch-all terms for extra params, and I think you should gain a consensus for adding a new term. Primefac (talk) 16:49, 7 March 2018 (UTC)- I just changed my user page to include this. It's unpaid btw. Do you know if there are any other catch-all fields with a label because coach is already being used on the page I'm editing. Also thank you for adding the plurality option but I'm not quite sure how to change it on the page. Could you please tell me how? Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tylermachanic (talk • contribs) 17:32, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
- Okay, let's back up a second. First, what is a "technical director", and second, why is it important to include them in the template? These are questions that should probably be answered before we just start chucking parameters in there. These are legitimate questions, for what it's worth. Primefac (talk) 19:59, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
- I'm not 100% sure what a technical director does but I'm guessing it means he's either in charge of running the website or maybe he is the announcer at games. I've decided to just include it in the history section instead of adding it to the template. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tylermachanic (talk • contribs) 20:13, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
- Okay, let's back up a second. First, what is a "technical director", and second, why is it important to include them in the template? These are questions that should probably be answered before we just start chucking parameters in there. These are legitimate questions, for what it's worth. Primefac (talk) 19:59, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
- I just changed my user page to include this. It's unpaid btw. Do you know if there are any other catch-all fields with a label because coach is already being used on the page I'm editing. Also thank you for adding the plurality option but I'm not quite sure how to change it on the page. Could you please tell me how? Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tylermachanic (talk • contribs) 17:32, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
- Well, first off, if you're being paid or otherwise connected to a company that you're writing for, you need to disclose that on your userpage - see WP:PAID. Second off, fair point with "owners", I've added in a plurality option. Third, the template already has
- I know we have owner but if a team has 4 owners it should say owners, not owner. We have fields for plural versions of other fields already so why can't we have one for owner? Also I was told that it would be easier to ask someone to make a new field than to try to change the name of the field specifically on one page. For technical director, one of the owners of the team I'm editing's page told me to add this so I would really appreciate if it was added. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tylermachanic (talk • contribs) 16:30, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
Why list partners?
editI'm wondering why this template lists partners, and maybe main sponsor also, at all? Seems to me this is basically exclusively used for advertising via wikipedia and serves no purpose of offering any meaningful info on the article items themselves.ShadessKB (talk) 13:20, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
Current season subheader
editIs there any reason why the current season parameter is tucked in with all of the other parameters instead of as a subheading like most other sports team infoboxes? JTP (talk • contribs) 20:18, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
- Couldn't rightly say. It was added back in 2014 by Frietjes. It does sound like the idea was rejected but I see no discussion. I don't see why it shouldn't follow the layout of similar templates, but we can discuss it first here. Primefac (talk) 21:51, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
- @NotTheFakeJTP and Primefac: note that
|season=
(paired with|league=
) is not the same as|current=
which was added back in 2010 as a standard label/data pair by Richmond96. Frietjes (talk) 14:12, 31 March 2019 (UTC)- Fair point. I forgot that usually it's
|current=
that links to the "current season". Primefac (talk) 14:28, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
- Fair point. I forgot that usually it's
- @NotTheFakeJTP and Primefac: note that
Recent edits
editMundy Swoosh, what are you attempting with your recent changes? Primefac (talk) 17:51, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
Flags for logos of national teams?
editI came across many articles using {{Infobox sports team}} listed in Category:National kabaddi teams that use a national flag as the logo in the infobox. Is that what is recommended or preferred if the only alternative is adding no image at all? — Archer1234 (t·c) 23:37, 13 January 2023 (UTC)
- I would think that one would assume that a national team would use their country's flag as their "logo". What else would be used? Primefac (talk) 12:02, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
- I thought the same thing, but when I took a look at some of the articles, I found the use of a wide (sometimes the full-width of the infobox) national flag coming off as a bit garish and overbearing (e.g., United States national speedway team). When it is as wide as it is for the articles about the national flags, it just seems to me to be too much. The national team articles are not about the flags, but the teams.
- Most of the templates used by national team articles offer
|logo=
or|Badge=
instead of the generic|image=
and are silent on guidance for using or not using flags. Logos generally have favorable aspect ratios so as not to be as overbearing as a flag (imo), but I suppose that could be used in an overbearing manner, too. Use of the team logo should be preferred over the use of a flag. If no logo is available, consider not using any image at all. If you are going to use a flag, then smaller flag images like that used at A1 Team USA or the use of a flag icon in|name=
like the example shown at {{Infobox national softball team}} seem more advisable to me than a full-width national flag. But reasonable minds may differ.
- Most of the templates used by national team articles offer
- FWIW, I did a survey of U. S. men's national teams articles use of images in infoboxes, where I found ten not using any image at all, eight that use the national flag (albeit at different sizes; with some using the
|Badge=
parameter for the flag), six using a team logo, and one using a team photograph. — Archer1234 (t·c) 00:45, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
- FWIW, I did a survey of U. S. men's national teams articles use of images in infoboxes, where I found ten not using any image at all, eight that use the national flag (albeit at different sizes; with some using the