Module talk:Kivu conflict detailed map

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1- A reliable source for that specific edit should be provided.
a) A well-known source that has a reputation for neutral (not biased) territorial control coverage, can be used (is deemed reliable) for all edits.
b) A well-known source that does not have a reputation for neutral (not biased) territorial control coverage, can be used (is deemed reliable) only for edits that are unfavorable to the side it prefers (favorable to the side it opposes).
c) A source that is not well-known (or that has proven inaccurate for all edits) cannot be used (is deemed unreliable) for any edit. This includes all maps (see item 2- next).

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See also: Wikipedia:Top 10 reasons why copying from maps is strictly prohibited on the Wikipedia Syria war map.

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See also: Wikipedia:Top 10 myths about the Wikipedia Syria war map.

This module was considered for deletion on 15 December 2022. The result of the discussion was "keep".

Replacing with Template:Map with marks

Latest comment: 2 years ago4 comments2 people in discussion

Because map focuses on Kivu region which is only small part of Congo I think instead I will replace this template with one utilizing Template:Map with marks. It would lose current syntax, but would only contain Kivu region. Borysk5 (talk) 16:04, 2 November 2022 (UTC)Reply

Are you going to include Ituri or are you going make a separate map for that?--Garmin21 (talk) 14:50, 3 November 2022 (UTC)Reply

@Garmin21: You can readjust it dynamically. I created sample in User:Borysk5/sandbox. However problem is you can't add labels in this template or links, only plain text on map. Borysk5 (talk) 15:04, 3 November 2022 (UTC)Reply

Allright I think my version of template at User:Borysk5/sandbox is mostly finished. It breaks the syntax, and doesn't allow seeing names of dots, however it's more focused on Kivu and allows more colors and more groups even without dots or description as names of groups will be listed on map. I mostly used kivusecurity.org/map# incidents from 1 June 2022 onwards, rest sources listed in edits. If there's no problems I'm gonna implement it soon. Borysk5 (talk) 09:10, 5 November 2022 (UTC)Reply

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