Template talk:Template journal

<syntaxhighlight> and code style

I appreciate the effort, but two three caveats:

1. <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext"> has learned to produce a similar output, hasn't it? What is the rationale then? <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext">:

   {{Blockquote
   	| Cry "Havoc" and let slip the dogs of war.
   	| [[William Shakespeare]]
   	| character = Mark Antony
   	| title = ''[[Julius Caesar (play)|Julius Caesar]]''
   	| source = act III, scene I
   }}
   

   {{tj}}:
   {{Blockquote
   | Cry "Havoc" and let slip the dogs of war.
   | [[William Shakespeare]]
   | character = Mark Antony
   | title = ''[[Julius Caesar (play)|Julius Caesar]]''
   | source = act III, scene I
   }}
   I assume it's a template link. But at the cost of lost highlighting inside the parameters. Anyways, I think, this should be mentioned in the docs.
2. The code style with tabs seems unusual to me. First of all, you can't type it in the text editing area – tabs are unsupported there. Then, the conventional code style seems to be this:

   {{Blockquote
   | Cry "Havoc" and let slip the dogs of war.
   | [[William Shakespeare]]
   | character = Mark Antony
   | title = ''[[Julius Caesar (play)|Julius Caesar]]''
   | source = act III, scene I
   }}
   

3. Another thing I'm skeptical about is the conflict with the notation where variable content is italicized (including using <var>...</var>), and actual content is roman, for example: {{blockquote|text|author}} vs {{blockquote|Cry "Havoc" and let slip the dogs of war.|William Shakespeare}}.

Jack who built the house (talk) 23:36, 6 August 2023 (UTC)

@Jack who built the house: I rather like this concept and though there are some minor similarities with things like <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext">, I feel they are quite different concepts. I suppose one could use a construction like {{#tag:syntaxhighlight|content|lang=wikitext}} where content was created on the fly, removing the need for the separate <templatestyles src="Template:Template journal/styles.css" />, however, as far I know there is no way to use any sort of wikitext markup within a parser extension tag/strip marker. They render their provided content however they see fit so using <var> or other means of italicizing, etc. is likely not possible within such a context. That said, it seems like a good idea to rewrite the entire thing along with {{Template journal inline}} and {{Template journal parameter}} directly in Scribunto Lua. It seems sort of pointless to do this in wikitext when it heavily depends on: {{#invoke:params|sequential}} and {{#invoke:error|error}} and in the subtemplates {{Template journal/arg}} and {{Template journal inline/arg}}: {{#invoke:string|find}}, {{#invoke:string|sublength}}, {{#invoke:string|str_find}} and {{#invoke:string|replace}}. In summary, I disagree with your first point and definitely agree with the subsequent two points. I am not a fan of the proscribed spacing and as much as the arguments can be italicized, I do not think it should be automatically italicized but rather such should be provided by the wikitext author employing the likes of {{var}}, {{var serif}}, etc. —Uzume (talk) 10:44, 2 June 2024 (UTC)