Template talk:URL

Long URL in infobox

I was expecting template:URL would wrap the long URL in EMBiology, does anyone know why it doesn't? currently the infobox occupies a large fraction of the page width. ~thanks. fgnievinski (talk) 02:05, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

@Fgnievinski: EMBiology doesn't use {{URL}}. If you are talking about previewing a version which does use {{URL}} then what is your browser? In my Firefox, it already wraps now without {{URL}}. In Edge it doesn't wrap now but it wraps in a preview with {{URL}}. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:25, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter: thanks for your assistance. EMBiology uses template:infobox bibliographic database which uses template:website which redirects to template:url which calls module:URL. Shouldn't the latter insert HTML wbr to assist browsers in breaking a long URL? BTW, I'm using Chrome. fgnievinski (talk) 17:56, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

@Fgnievinski: template:infobox bibliographic database does not use template:website. Why do you think that it does? If you saw code like {{{website}}} with three curly brackets then it means the template has a parameter |website=. A template call has two curly brackets like {{website}}. The documentation at Template:Infobox bibliographic database#Usage says | website = <!-- use {{URL|example.com}} --> and | titles = <!-- use {{URL|example.com}} -->. That means an article using the infobox can place a url in {{URL|...}}. EMBiology doesn't do that. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:15, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter: I just noticed this was changed a few years ago (link). Do you know what's the best practice in other templates? are users expected to wrap bare URLs in the the URL template or do templates do the wrapping automatically as a courtesy to users? and is template URL safe to abuse when it's input to itself? I ask because now template:infobox bibliographic database has a mixture of usage patterns. thanks for your help. fgnievinski (talk) 19:16, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

@Fgnievinski: {{URL}} requires a raw url. {{URL| {{URL|http://example.org}} }} or {{URL|[http://example.org website]}} fails. {{URL}} is from before MediaWiki got modules. The template language has very limited string processing. {{URL}} is now implemented by Module:URL and it would be possible to test the parameter and do nothing if it's not a raw url. Infoboxes with displayed website parameters generally require the caller to add {{URL}} for improved formatting. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:45, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter: thank you, I've inserted {{url}} in EMBiology which remedied the large infobox width. any suggestions of bots which could wrap bare URLs in infoboxes? fgnievinski (talk) 20:50, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

@Fgnievinski: Bot tasks need approval. You could post to Wikipedia:Bot requests. Website parameters still work without {{URL}} so there might be some opposition. You could also make searches like hastemplate:"Infobox bibliographic database" insource:"titles = http" and work on it yourself, maybe with AutoWikiBrowser if you know it, but it's probably too much work for more common infoboxes. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:28, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

Bot requested, thanks for your assistance so far: Wikipedia:Bot_requests#Use_template:url_in_calls_to_infobox_bibliographic_database. fgnievinski (talk) 14:20, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

Template:Infobox bibliographic database is only used in 139 articles and many of them don't have the issue. This is so little by bot standards that I expect a request to be rejected when it's only for that infobox, but maybe somebody will just do it with AutoWikiBrowser. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:21, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

Edit request to remove legacy code

Hello, the following code may be removed:

	-- Handle URLs from Wikidata of the format http://
	url = mw.ustring.gsub(url, '^[Hh][Tt][Tt][Pp]([Ss]?)://', 'http%1://')

Refs past discussions:

• Template talk:URL/Archive 1#Import URL from Wikidata
• d:Wikidata:Project chat/Archive/2013/09#URL datatype is here

According to phab:T56312, this bug (from the early ages of wikidata) has been fixed since then.

Od1n (talk) 08:59, 11 September 2022 (UTC)

 Edited. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^put'r there 18:58, 11 September 2022 (UTC)

Is there any reason to trim "www" from the displayed URL?

Template:URL is designed to display the "www" as part of the link displayed and is clear that "Parameter 2 ({{URL|url name|optional display text}}) is deprecated"; I certainly don't see any reason to manually remove the "www" using parameter 2. Is there any reason to make edits such as this one, one example of many, whose only purpose is to trim the "www"? There was this discussion from 2020 that leaned against removal of the "www". Does this still stand and if so should there be a clearer admonition in Template:URL discouraging the practice? Alansohn (talk) 17:21, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

I would describe that edit as mildly negative, not helpful. It made the displayed URL longer, wrapping it in my display. The previous, shorter URL did not wrap. Since |2= is deprecated, a better edit would have been to remove "www" from |1= while removing |2=, after checking that the resulting URL worked, of course. – Jonesey95 (talk) 21:18, 12 August 2024 (UTC)