Template talk:World Sailing

Sailor ID

Why has the term New ID been introduced all reference to sailors should be based on the alpha numerical sailor ID this has been World Sailing common reference for 2020 years. Both the numerical page ID and the current word based URL are a consequence I suspect of the web design. Updating to the new website should have been as simple as editing the directional URL to https://www.sailing.org/sailor?ref=GBRCA1

Wikidata has always been based on the incorrect numerical data unfortunately I have been unable to find a user capable of correcting this. I certainly am not :-)

--Yachty4000 (talk) 23:16, 14 June 2022 (UTC)

@Yachty4000: I added the |new_id= parameter to support the new ID format used at the World Sailing website. To see this, go to the search page at www.sailing.org, type Hannah Mills in "Search Name" or GBRHM15 in "Sailor ID", then click "View profile" for Hannah Mills, the URL displayed is https://www.sailing.org/sailor/hannah-mills?ref=GBRHM15. I found that https://www.sailing.org/sailor/hannah-mills will always display the page for Hannah Mills, but https://www.sailing.org/sailor/?ref=GBRHM15 sometimes will and other times will not. When I go to https://www.sailing.org/sailor?ref=GBRCA1 and in the page that opens, replace GBRCA1 with GBRHM15, it just re-displays the page for Ben Ainslie when it should display the page for Hannah Mills. When I go to https://www.sailing.org/sailor/ben-ainslie and in the page that opens, replace ben-ainslie with hannah-mills, it actually changes the page displayed from Ben Ainslie to Hannah Mills. -- Zyxw (talk) 19:46, 15 June 2022 (UTC)

As another example, I just clicked on https://www.sailing.org/sailor/?ref=GBRHM15 and it displayed a page for Antonio Vertiz. If that URL worked correctly it should always display the page for Hannah Mills. -- Zyxw (talk) 11:21, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

@Zyxw: it not a New ID format as explained above its a new website design generating a new primary url pathway. All the page still clearly have the ID alpha numberical this is the login details, results details etc. Results also only link to the alpha numberic system that world sailing have been using for over 20 years and at every website redesign have carried on supporting through redirects. If you look at https://www.sailing.org/sailors/profiles/ it only displays five criteria 1) photo 2) name 3) ID 4) Gender 5) Categorization Status. Current event https://www.sailwave.com/results/vyc/ILCA7Masters2022.htm using alpha numerical reference. I have absolutely no idea what benefit new ID brings? It isn't a new ID and doesn't add anything just makes all the old infobox update and adds a third competing entry data type. When I click on the link I get to Hannah Mills so I am not sure what went wrong for you.

--Yachty4000 (talk) 17:09, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

@Zyxw: as expected World Sailing stuck with sailor ID something that has existed for over 20 years as a unique identifier. Can you get sailor ID back as a way to use the template the URL has been made to work again see your example https://www.sailing.org/sailor/?ref=GBRHM15 (talk) 23:07, 11 Jan 2023 (UTC)