User talk:Aiman abmajid/Archive 1

In, on. Preposition in specific.

Hello. I wish to remind you that we say "in 1996", not "on 1996". I hope this helps a bit. __earth ^(Talk) 06:13, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

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You have been warned. I will now check all images you have uplaoded and delete any where no clear source and copyright status is specified. Circeus 20:39, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

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The National Palace of Malaysian Head of State located in Bukit Petaling, Kuala Lumpur

Yes, Bukit Petaling is also main places in Kuala Lumpur because Istana Negara (National Palace) the official palace of Yang di-Pertuan Agong (Malaysian Head of State) is located here. Aiman Ab Majid 27 June 2006

Thank you for your reply. I still don't understand what "main places" means. Is that a town, a village, a specific type of settlement ? Travelbird 12:36, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Jambatan Parit Sulong bridge question

This article currently states that the bridge was "constructed" in 1925 (which means both started and completed in the same year) but wasn't opened until 1930. This seems odd. Did you possibly mean to say it was started in 1925 and completed a few years later ? I notice you list your English skill level as advanced. I think you might want to change that to intermediate, as I fixed numerous grammar errors in the article. For example, you repeatedly said things happened "on" a year, while English speakers say something happened "in" a year. I do appreciate you writing the article and admit that I speak no Malaysian at all. Also, do you have any sources for the article we could add ? StuRat 02:10, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

I see you added that the bridge was completed in 1929, thanks. You're still saying things happen "on" a year instead of "in" a year, though, which is wrong. As for the reference you added, thanks again. Is that a book ? Do you know when it was published ? StuRat 02:16, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Main towns that are not so main

I know that you love to write a one sentence article. But, if you want to do that, please, at least do it properly. Stop saying "X is a main town in Y, Z". What is so main about obscure towns? __earth ^(Talk) 05:20, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

It's great that you want to help increase the amount of information about Malaysia on Wikipedia, but your huge number of one-sentence articles aren't nearly as helpful or informative as one or two longer, comprehensive articles would be. I hope you will consider focusing more on quality and less on quantity. --Icarus ^(Hi!) 05:27, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Recreating deleted articles

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Stub articles

Hi and thatnks for contributing the short articles on towns in Malaysia. It would be good if you could mark these as "stubs" (short articles which could do with being expanded) - to do this, just add {{Malaysia-geo-stub}} at the end of the article. This places it on Category:Malaysia_geography_stubs, so people with the requisite knowledge can easily find articles in need of attention. Thanks in advance! Tonywalton  | Talk 14:52, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Terima Kasih banyak-banyak (Thank you very much) Aiman abmajid

And a free Malaysian lesson as well! Thanks. Tonywalton  | Talk 15:07, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Pulau Aman

Please remember the stub tag. Tonywalton  | Talk 11:36, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Terima Kasih banyak-banyak :-) Tonywalton  | Talk 11:44, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

==Rivers== If you are going to write about rivers in Malaysia, please add more information than just where they are located. I usually patrol new pages, and I have had to delete many of those pages. Mikeeilbacher 14:55, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Harith Iskandar

What does this mean? Is this a definition? --Porqin 13:14, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Harith Iskandar is the Malaysian actors and comedians Aiman 10 August 2006

Can you please explain in a different way, or different context? Is Harity Iskandar a term for a Malaysian actor or comedian? --Porqin 13:22, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Language Names

Hi there. I've noticed that you have changed "Indonesian" and "Malaysian" to "Bahasa INdonesia" and "Bahasa Malay", respectively. While these are of course the native names for these languages they are not the English names, upon which the English version of Wikipedia is based. For example English Wikipedia states the language of Germany as "German" and not "Deutsch". And in the Malay version of Wikipedia [1], English is referred to as "Inggeris", as this of course is written in Malay. "Englisch" in the German version, and so on, and so on. Of course, you can mention the native name of the language in brackets, as it is in, say in the Indonesia article, but the main reference needs to be in English (for the English Wikipedia). Happy Editing --Merbabu 01:06, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Blocked

I've blocked you for utterly making a mess of things and blanking all warnings and comments on your talk page (other admins, check his talk page's history). I just had to go through and delete about two dozen images you uploaded with no source information and outright false licensing tags. --Cyde Weys 16:13, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Hello Cyde, I'am so sorry for doing an uploading images with no source information and outright false licensing tags. I will not upload images again. I WILL ONLY CREATED AND EDITED MY FAVOURITE ARTICLES ON THE WIKIPEDIA SUCH AS NAME OF PLACES IN MALAYSIA, EXPRESSWAY, HIGHWAYS AND ROADS IN MALAYSIA AND THE GEOGRAPHY IN MALAYSIA. Cyde, could you lifted and unblocked my blocking user's page, please? Aiman ab Majid 21 August 2006

Unblocked

Hello Aiman abmajid, you've been unblocked for the time being, but your requirement to stay unblocked is that you inform yourself about the Wikipedia policy that you've violated. By understanding why you were blocked, you can keep it from happening again.

• Removing warnings from your talk page can be considered a type of vandalism. Doing so again in the future is likely to lead to a block.
• Please take a look at Wikipedia's Image Use Policy and the various types of Copyright Tags. Before uploading any images, be sure that they are allowed to be used on Wikipedia, and that you know how to correctly label their copyright status. There is a good guide for that at Wikipedia:Uploading images.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask me. I hope you are able to contribute to Wikipedia in a more helpful manner from now on. -- Natalya 16:14, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Kerinchi Pylon picture

I'm sorry that I can't make it as I can't drive and my camera had failed. Joshua Chiew 02:19, 22 August 2006 (UTC)Joshua Chiew

Never mind, try again. If you want take this pictures. You should park at the Menara Telekom or stop your car at the suitable places to take the pictures. Good luck! Aiman ab Majid 22 August 2006

I recently travelled on the Kelana Jaya Line LRT. I spotted a tall pylon beside (or behind) Menara Telekom. Is that Kerinchi Pylon? (Sorry that I didn't take the picture) Joshua Chiew 15:05, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Yes, that is a Kerinchi Pylon beside (or behind) Menara Telekom! -- Aiman ab Majid 5 September 2006 (UTC)

New userboxes

I have deleted a userbox template you recently created, as userboxes should no longer be created in templatespace per the terms of the German userbox solution. Here is the userbox code so that you can recreate the userbox in your userspace ("userfying") if you wish.

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| style="font-size: 8pt; padding: 4pt; line-height: 1.25em; color: white;" | {{{4|'''This user is interested in [[roads|<font color=white><u>roads</u><font>]], [[expressways|<font color=white><u>expressways</u><font>]] and [[highways|<font color=white><u>highways</u><font>]] in [[Malaysia|<font color=white><u>Malaysia</u><font>]] '''}}}
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--Cyde Weys 14:51, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Did you even read WP:GUS? Why did you just recreate Template:User Road, expressway, and highway in Malaysia yet again?! --Cyde Weys 16:40, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Oops, I'am sorry! -- Aiman Ab Majid 23 August 2006

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Your recent "street articles"

You've made several articles abotu dtreets all consisting of "X (Y) is the famous road and streets in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia." These articles don't explain why they are famous and the wording doesn't make much sense. If you wish to make new articles on topics can you explain why X is famous? –– Lid^(Talk) 12:13, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

In fact every article in Category:Roads in Kuala Lumpur follows this format. Can you please expand? –– Lid^(Talk) 12:15, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I will do it! -- Aiman Ab Majid 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Please add a little more detail on your articles and at least write in correct English, see Jalan Yap Ah Loy.Ernst Stavro Blofeld 12:19, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Hi mate. I appreciate your enthusiasm but i don't really see the point of starting new sub-stubs . They don't convey any info. What I suggest is that you list all of these roads and streets under an article List of roads in Kuala Lumpur if it doesn't exist already. Then when there is enough information you can start the articles. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 12:22, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

I am starting that article so you can list the roads and streets under this rather than starting sub stubs. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 12:24, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Please be sure that these articles are notable enough before creating articles about all of them. -- Natalya 14:15, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Menara Jakarta

I have converted this page into a redirect to the more informative article, Jakarta Tower. As per Wikipedia's naming conventions, it is more appropriate to use the English name for the landmark. I have added the links to this page in other languages to the Jakarta Tower article. :-) Thanks, Stelio 17:48, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

A barnstar especially for you

		The Original Barnstar
		For all your hardwork in articles dealing with Malaysian roads and expressways, I Acs4b hereby would like to award you the original barnstar. Keep up the good work and please don't stop contributing! Acs4b 05:06, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Thank you very much! -- Aiman Ab Majid 13:07, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Sama-sama, you are welcome! Acs4b 05:19, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Aiman abmajid, can you please add this barnstar in your userpage? Thank you. Acs4b 05:19, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

About "main towns"

Like what Earth said above (Main towns that are not so main), you are constantly creating articles such as "A is a main town in B". Most of the places in Selangor, Kuala Lumpur and other places have all the nearly same contents. We appreciate your contributions, but can you write something more about that location instead of just writing the "A is a main town in B" thing. Those contents are actually not really useful and are just making the number of stubs increasing. Thank you and sorry if I misused the language. Acs4b 05:18, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Motorcycles are not allowed in Ampang Kuala Lumpur Elevated Highway

I'm not sure why they are not allowed but I take this highway almost everyday and I see the notice "Motorsikal Dilarang Masuk" on the electronic board. It's most probably for safety reasons. Prash10 16:32, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Rest and service area

Please stop writing articles about rest and service areas. They are completely insignificant and not of anyone's interest. I'm in the very slow process of recommending all of them for deletion. Besides, your English has not improved yet and I still need to correct almost every sentence you write. They are either of poor grammar or they are half sentences. Wai Hong 02:21, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Heidi Munan

This article was a non-notable biography according to the criteria set out in WP:BIO. (aeropagitica) 21:53, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Mosques in Malaysia

I'm in a very slow process of moving the pages of mosques in Malaysia which has the format "Masjid ..." to "...Mosque" according to Wikipedia's naming convention on Islam- related articles. 99% of them are messes created by you. I hope you'll join me in renaming all these articles. I think only Masjid Negara and Masjid Jamek in KL should not be renamed in my format because they are more popular in their Malay Name. "Masjid Jamek ..." should be renamed "...Jamek Mosque". Please reply me and please do some good and improve your English.Wai Hong 09:28, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

English names for articles

I don't know why I'm still writing here. Can you give English names to articles ,please? Change your articles from Jambatan to Bridge, Masjid to mosque, etc. It's driving me crazy seeing so many poorly written 1 sentence articles by you. Even the article's name has problems.Wai Hong 05:20, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Ok! Aiman abmajid 13:53, 20 November 2006

Copyvio on Bilut

Please do not cut and paste text from other sites, such as [2], into Wikipedia articles, such as Bilut. We can't use their content without permission, because of copyright issues. Don't worry — if a topic is worth inclusion in Wikipedia, someone will take the time to write their own summary of information about it! We don't need to borrow or steal words from other Web sites. (However, thank you for starting the Bilut article; it looks like that's a relatively notable film that IMDB doesn't know about yet.) --Quuxplusone 04:07, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Ok, next time I will not do it! Argh, I'am feel so tension! -- Aiman abmajid 12:09, 4 December 2006

Kodiang

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Licensing on Image

Hi. I uploaded the image found here on the English Wikipedia but since I don't know the Malaysian language, I didn't know the licensing on the original image: here. I see you know Malaysian; could you tell me the licensing on the original image? --Anthony5429 04:34, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi Anthony5429, Apa khabar! (How are you!) I'am not so sure about licensing on the original Sultan Mizan Zainal Abidin image can be found here. --User:Aiman abmajid 16:13, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

FasTrak

Selamat sejahtera (hello), Aiman abmajid. I was thinking about creating an article about a ceased toll system in Malaysia called FasTrak so that people will actually know what it means. Could you help me find some information regarding FasTrak and why isn't it used in Malaysia any more? Thank you and I would really appreciate it if you help me out. Acs4b 09:51, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Selamat sejahtera (hello), Acs4b. Ok, Fastrak was a non-stop (Electronic toll collection) ETC system that already being used in every Gamuda Expressway Networks like Damansara-Puchong Expressway (Litrak-LDP) (opened on 1995}, Shah Alam Expressway (Kesas-SAE) (opened on 1995), and Sprint Expressway (Sprint) (opened on 2001). The Shah Alam Expressway (Kesas-SAE) was the first Gamuda Expressway to used the system on 1995 followed by Damansara-Puchong Expressway (Litrak-LDP) and Sprint Expressway (Sprint). However on 1 July 2004, This non-stop ETC system was no longer being used and replaced by Smart TAG and Touch 'n Go ETC system following the instructions of Works Minister, Dato' Seri S Samy Vellu that the implementation of a single ETC nationwide as a form of standardisation and convenience of use for road users. The directive requires all major toll operators in Malaysia to have a minimum of 2 Touch 'n Go and 1 SmartTAG lanes per direction at every plazas. That's all about information of Fastrak ETC system! Highway specialist in Malaysia 12:22, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Ok, One more. Hi Acs4b, can you create a highway public facilities logo in every Malaysian expressways like toilets logo, food courts logo, petrol stations logo, fast food restaurants logo, suraus (Muslim prayer room) logo, wakaf (hut) logo, Highway inn logo and ATM machines logo. please? Highway specialist in Malaysia 12:22, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

RE:Creating a highway public facilities logo in every Malaysian expressways

Thanks for telling me some information about FasTrak.

I will help you create logos for all highways and expressways in Malaysia. The only problem is school is starting next week and unfortunately, I might not be online at all until October 2007 (except when there are no exams). All the logos I find/create (ex: from PLUS.com.my) must have fair use. Thank you. Acs4b 04:46, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

European Malays/Arab Malays

Hi! Of late, there is a recent fuss by people of angmoh background challenging the notability of these two articles and cats, and I feel that being a Malay yourself, it would be viable to access your opinion on this issue.

While I feel that Turkish Malays is indeed not very notable, I feel that the articles of these two topics are notable. To me, I feel that the Weterners feel that they are non-notable because they lacked the understanding of the history of SE Asian history and sociology. Practically, I feel that we should ask the opinions of the Malays and non-Malays of Singapore and Malaysia. You might want to call up the people in Wikipedia:Wikipedians/Singapore and Wikipedia:Wikipedians/Malaysia. Let's access their opinions. You might want to vote in the Afd and voice your opinion too: [3] [4]. Thanks! Mr Tan 07:11, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

About Rest Areas

Aiman abmajid, firstly I would like to congratulate you for writing articles about many expressways/highways in Malaysia. Next, I think that some your RSA (Rest Area) articles are non-notable and are just adding up the number of stub articles. My suggestion to you is to create only important/notable/famous rest areas like the overhead restaurant in Sungai Buloh and the ones near Penang Bridge (if there are any). The other ones are rarely visited by tourists (ex:Dengkil). Keep up the good work in creating your articles! Thank you and sorry if I misused the language (Terima kasih dan tolong maafkan saya jikalau saya telah menyalahgunakan bahasa). Acs4b 03:32, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi Acs4b, Terima kasih and thank you very much! Em... Near Penang Bridge is Juru Rest Area ke? -- Highway specialist in Malaysia 14:38, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Fair use image use

Greeetings! I've noted that you've created a number of templates like {{Petronas signs}} and added logos to those templates. The problem is the logos are all tagged as fair use images. As a result, per terms of Wikipedia:Fair use criteria item #9, they had to be removed as fair use images are not permitted to be used on templates or any other non-main namespace article. If you have any questions about this, I'd be happy to answer. Thanks, --Durin 17:52, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Melewar Corporation

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2008 in Malaysia

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Abdul Malik Mydin

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Capital?

Is it necessary to have the word (capital) after the capital cities in state template (i.e Template:Kedah? It looks a bit awkward though. What bout merely bolding them though? --Zack2007 16:19, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes. --Highway Specialist in Malaysia 0:21, 27 March 2007

I agree with Aiman abmajid, too. If we did bold the capital of each state, then, when we add it into the article (i.e Alor Star), it looks a bit "weird" and may result in confusion. So, I personally think that it is best to just retain the current version. Thank you. Acs4b 11:55, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Jagoh

I have added a "{{prod}}" template to the article Jagoh, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but I don't believe it satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and I've explained why in the deletion notice (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may contest the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page. Also, please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. 141.153.160.250 03:19, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Lirik lagu

Hai Aiman
Bukankah lirik lagu mempunyai hak cipta. Boleh ke ia diletakkan di sini? Yosri 10:20, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Hmm.... I'am really not sure. User:Aiman abmajid 19:57 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Gce.jpg

Thanks for uploading or contributing to Image:Gce.jpg. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in Wikipedia articles constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.

If you have uploaded other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on those pages too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any fair use images uploaded after 4 May, 2006, and lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.BetacommandBot 10:09, 4 June 2007 (UTC)