User talk:Alientraveller/Archive 12
Worked
editI'm really please that worked! ➨ ЯEDVEЯS used to be a sweet boy 10:17, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
Re:Gi Joe
editGo see a reliable sources has been added before making a revert. --SkyWalker (talk) 12:00, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
- Hey, According to your latest entry you have added this link. That link shows LatinoReview site. Which is the same site which confirmed Brendan Fraser has Gung Ho and The Rock has Shipwreck. It is confirmed that BF is Gung Ho. Why do you keep reverting?. --SkyWalker (talk) 12:55, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
- Ok then IMDB lists Brendan Fraser has Gung Ho?. And what do you mean by "bitching three wheeled motorcycle"?--SkyWalker (talk) 12:59, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
- Ah thanks, Keep up the good work on movies entry. --SkyWalker (talk) 13:03, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
- Ok then IMDB lists Brendan Fraser has Gung Ho?. And what do you mean by "bitching three wheeled motorcycle"?--SkyWalker (talk) 12:59, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
Jack Sparrow
editShouldn't we give him the title of protagonist in addition to Anti-Hero? BlackPearl14Pirate Lord-ess of the Caribbean 23:38, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
- I see, but that makes this unequal: the Elizabeth Swann article names her protagonist. Just thought I should get your input :) BlackPearl14Pirate Lord-ess of the Caribbean 16:22, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
- Good question...perhaps a removal might be in order... BlackPearl14Pirate Lord-ess of the Caribbean 16:26, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
- Great. I'll just check to make sure that it's been removed on the Elizabeth Swann and Will Turner pages. Thanks! BlackPearl14Pirate Lord-ess of the Caribbean 18:50, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
- Good question...perhaps a removal might be in order... BlackPearl14Pirate Lord-ess of the Caribbean 16:26, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
oy! wall-e had his page moved
editSo Gears of War decided to move the Wall-E page to WALL • E, without checking the archive where the hyphen use (or non-use) had already been discussed with the decision to keep it as - was made. Your assistance in putting it back, assuming you agree that moving it back is the right choice, is appreciated. SpikeJones (talk) 03:27, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
Transformers 2
editThey aren't rumors. The are confirmed. If you had bothered to read the Talk Page on that article you would see my sources. Kalas Grengar (talk) 17:50, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
Warning of impending violations of Wikipedia's 3RR policy
editPlease do not engage in Wikipedia:Edit warring; in editing The Dark Knight (film), you are verging on violating Wikipedia:3RR. Your edit summaries are not accurate; it is not a copyright violation to link to a reliable third-party published source such as Allocine.fr, which reproduces the text that you cited (initially in a misleading way). Only by examining the text does it become clear that the previous presentation was misleading. A quotation in the citation will solve that problem as well. I'll try to provide it a bit later if I can find the time. See the article's talk page and please use it rather than edit warring for discussions. Edit warring is a violation of Wikipedia editing policies and guidelines. --NYScholar (talk) 21:06, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
Jack sparrow
editConcerning your revert to Jack Sparrow, I understand what you are doing, but the summary was not specific enough, and a newcomer would likely be very confused by it. In the future, try to be a bit more specific in your edit summaries to avoid confusion.
Thank you
editThank you for your hard work on The Dark Knight too. --NYScholar (talk) 23:24, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
My work on Hulk (film)
editYou can head over to User:Wildroot/Hulk and do a little editing. That would pretty nice. Cheers. Maybe I might be able to get that article in shape for GA before the new film comes out.—Wildroot (talk) 01:34, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
Jurassic Park 4
editGood call on removing that stuff, I didn't have the guts to do it myself. Ben Boldt (talk) 15:44, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
The Legend of Spyro
editYup such film is under production [1],[2],--SkyWalker 15:19, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
I thought you might like to know this
editMonday, on the main page: Jurassic Park (film). - Face 19:04, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
- Hm, Persion Poet Gal protected it for some reason. - Face 19:04, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
Ta
edit...for the Barnstar. I do that, copyedit upcoming FAs o' de day. Nice work, not too rah-rah for such a lunatic praiseworthy fanatical cinephile as you seem to be. Congrats. --Milkbreath (talk) 17:03, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
Wikiquette alert notice
editHi there. You should be aware of this thread which involves you. At present, I do not see any major civility violations. I would probably advise not to put comments such as "thanks for the edit conflict" in the edit summary, as it can come across as if you are blaming people for something they have no control over. Also, if you are getting edit conflicts, there is a lot of conversation going on and it is possible other people are getting edit conflicts and could be frustrated as well, so it's just an altogether bad time to be cheeky :) --Jaysweet (talk) 13:30, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
Heads-up
editJust wanted to let you and the others know that I'm obviously not on Wikipedia much these days. I started my internship, and I'm pretty busy with it. Not going to be editing at work, and my current residence does not have a stable Internet setup. We have one modem to which there can only be one laptop connected at a time. I have two roommates, so that's three laptops that have to keep being moved and plugged in. So I can't get comfortable and edit a good deal. One of my roommates will be retrieving a wireless router from home, so hopefully that will permit me to station myself somewhere comfortable. Hope you're all doing well, though! —Erik (talk • contrib) - 01:10, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
The Two "Hulk" films
editDo you know how possibly weird that would be if both films were nomianted for GA status on the same day? I have yet to finish this article. I'm getting closer.—Wildroot (talk) 01:28, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
User: Tenebrae is reverting the 'Avengers' film and other referenced Sequel content from the "Sequel" section, and is reducing it to a very small length with barely any content or references.--Snowman Guy (talk) 13:28, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
- Really!? That's quite a thing to say. I agree with you, my expectations are low considering that I'm not too crazy about the director and the so-called writing issue weirded me out. I checked www.fomdi.com to see if it's captioned this Friday, but it's not listed yet. I usually know by Wednesday, but possibly as early as this Tuesday night. I won't get a chance to see Indiana Jones until DVD, sadly... I missed it in the theaters. I definitely want to see The Incredible Hulk, The Dark Knight, and Hellboy II (which keeps seducing me with its amazing previews of del Toro's mad brilliance). Definitely will see WALL-E, too, considering it's packaged for people like me. :) Do you have any idea how minimal the dialog is? I saw on the article that there is a speaking role by a human captain. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 11:29, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
- I see what you mean now re: the indent. And I have to compliment you on your excellent, EXCELLENT work on this article. These are some of the most best edits I've seen. I've been privileged to work with some great colleagues and editors on the Comics Project, and I hope you'll accept this as a token of appreciation for all you're doing. With thanks, --Tenebrae (talk) 13:46, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
The Original Barnstar
I award you this for your highly precise, NPOV, detailed and yet pertinent and relevant edits. Congratulations! — Tenebrae (talk) 13:46, 17 June 2008 (UTC) |
Lord of the Rings
editI added a subsection to the Lord of the Rings film trilogy article that referenced three academic works - you instantly deleted it and explained this edit with the word "irrelevant", regardless of the fact that the academic sources I cited were all studies of the film trilogy and its reception, and therefore relevant. Please do not do that again. We can discuss this on the Lord of the Rings film trilogy talk page. Ninj (talk) 19:22, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
Friendly note
editIt looks like you already have 4 non-vandal reverts to The_Incredible_Hulk_(film). While I agree with your edits, make sure not to get in trouble with 3RR. Gwynand | Talk•Contribs 16:40, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
- The last revert you just made, I'm not sure on. While it's an important plot note that the Hulk relents, it still appears that Abomination dies. However, I'm not too concerned on that note at the moment... you have to bring these issues to talk, you are in the 7 revert vicinity for today already, and it isn't vandalism reversion. Gwynand | Talk•Contribs 18:14, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
Replaced your "Blue flower" picture.
editI replaced the "blue flower" picture from the Batman Begins article. Hope you don't mind. I used the source from Blu-ray so the picture is more detailed now. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Arman88 (talk • contribs) 01:40, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
Marvel Studios
editThanks for your copy-editing! I had copied "Motion pictures" from the Paramount Pictures infobox, but "Film" suffices, too. Of course, the proper dashes don't show up on Microsoft Word. And I knew there had to be an article for something like Marvel Films—there was something in the back of my head going, "There's something you're missing!" Now I know what it was. :) I stopped short of a 2005 NYT article talking about how Marvel Studios will independently finance the film, so I have a ways to go with this. (I'm using Access World News and implementing major newspaper headlines, but I'm going to try to use business databases and cull headlines from sources like Wall Street Journal.) Anywhere else you might suggest me looking at? There's definitely a lot more information related to Marvel Entertainment, but I'm trying to focus on the studio right now. (And this weekend's film is Get Smart -- BAH! There is a Hulk screening an hour away, so maybe I'll go to that...) —Erik (talk • contrib) - 10:46, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
Hey there, I thought I'd explain why I removed the 'uncredited' tag from Norton's screenwriter entry in the infobox. I just thought it too trivial a thing to mention there, as the WGA's decision is mentioned in the article proper, and to tag his contribution that way seemed like an observance of WGA standards that we would usually ignore here. But I bow to your superior experience on this one. All the best, Steve T • C 08:43, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
Crystal Skull
editThere's no such thing as a crystal skull??? Shazam! I had thought that film was a documentary! Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 12:57, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
- Yeesh! :) How sure are you about the copying? I wonder if some kind of memo can be spent their way... —Erik (talk • contrib) - 13:48, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
AFI thing
editSorry about BttF! Didn't notice you'd already added the AFI note. I'll make sure I check the history next time so I don't step on anyone's toes (though it looks like it's just you and me adding this stuff at the moment). Steve T • C 13:34, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
Smallville
editWell, unless Tess becomes some hugely popular character that gets written about by numerous critics (which I highly doubt), then I don't think she'll ever warrant a page to herself. As for other shows, at the moment, not really. Maybe if the CW wises up and creates a Green Arrow spin-off, considering how popular the character was in season 6 and the fact that I believe they are testing the waters by making him a series regular to see if audiences can handle a whole season of "Green", then I'll have another show to write about. Other than that..probably not. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 14:49, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah, there was rumblings in the fan community that "Tess" was really "Teschmacher". I would actually prefer that that really was the case over the idea that Davis Blume is Doomsday. Right now, I have no anticipation for the eighth season because I completely disagree with the introduction of Doomsday. I'm sorry, but that is clearly a "Superman" type of character. You cannot introduce the only character that has ever succeeded in "killing" Superman, and you don't even have Superman on the show. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 15:16, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
- He's already died and been resurrected on the show, we don't need it again. We certainly don't need "Superman's death" played out on the show when we don't have a Superman to kill. You cannot do that series of comics without two things: Superman and Doomsday. They both go hand-in-hand, and it's a huge mistake introducing this character when you haven't even had the blue tights and red cape flying around. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 16:20, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
- I doubt he'd wearing the suit mid-way through, because Welling has been adament about not doing such a thing on the show. I could see, and I hope for it, that they do it in the series finale (at least in the last couple minutes), but nothing further than that. It's going to be hard to see how this is going to end with Lex seemingly out of the picture entirely. That rather annoyed me. The entire eighth season can suck so long as the series finale itself is fantastic. It should be 2 hours long and packed full of action and references to previous episodes. I would love for a scene where Clark remembers all those times when he promised to do great things, or people reminded him that he would do great things for the world. Some kind of montage where he remembers key moments in his life that have helped guide him. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 16:28, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
- Can always count on Enter Movie to find a way around it and have it prepped and waiting in the wings. LOl BIGNOLE (Contact me) 20:25, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah, I've heard. I've also heard that the tv commercial actually listed October 2 as the start date. I'll hold on to that source though, and see about including it somewhere. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 03:20, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
Iron Man Movie
editRegarding the removal of the {{citequote}} tag with the claim "'tis in the cite". I looked at the provided reference article (I assume its [3]), eyeballed and text-searched it, and did not find the phrase "Director Jon Favreau and star Robert Downey make this smart, high impact superhero movie one that even non-comics fans can enjoy." or any sizeable component thereof.
A litte further digging revealed my problem. I was looking at the reference article provided that covered all the other claims. I should have been looking at the uncited Rotten Tomatoes page for the movie. I will make the appropriate changes to the article. -- saberwyn 12:14, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
Thoughts
editI just came to know that Near future in film is nominated for deletion. I was wondering if merging 2009 in film would be a right choice. 2009 is 7 months away until January 2009 arrives this article should be merged till then. What do you think?. --SkyWalker (talk) 18:09, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
Images
editNot bad thanks, I think I've done alright. As for a release image... I'd probably go with this one, or if you wanted one with some of the actors in, a crop of this one. Gran2 11:47, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
Evangelion (Live Action) Film
editHello, I noticed your recent change to the page for the proposed Evangelion live action film and wanted to know why you did change it. I understand changes to the pages content, but there is now no way to access the page that was there now! Again, could you explain the reason for this? Thank you Ode2joy (talk) 03:50, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen
editHi there. I remember that when the first TF movie was in production we had a header at the top of the talk page saying something along the lines of This is for discussing changes to the article only, not for commenting on how much you don't like the robot designs etc. I had a quick search for a similar header template (I realise that the "robot designs" comment must have been a parameter) but couldn't find one. Do you think the Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen article would benefit from such a header, given the number of forum-like comments that have been posted there and, if so, do you remember the name of the template? Cheers, -- JediLofty UserTalk 11:14, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
- That's the one! Let's hope people actually read it, rather than just thinking Wikipedia is www.shootfortheedit.com or www.donmurphy.net! :-D -- JediLofty UserTalk 12:05, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
Re: State of Play
editHi. That's an excellent rewrite of the lead. I was hard-pressed to see what exactly you'd removed at first, as it essentially says the same thing but in about half the words. I'll incorporate it shortly. Thanks again, Steve T • C 08:02, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for that. I've tweaked and re-tweaked the article so many times that I have no distance from it whatsoever, so it's definitely good to get another pair of eyes on it. Good to know it's on someone else's watchlist too, for when I go on holiday at the end of the month, hint hint (wait, does that count as attempted meatpuppetry? :p ). Cheers, Steve T • C 14:36, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
Hulk/Who
editThe CGI was okay, it was just so obviously CGI that I couldn't really lose myself in it. It was just a cartoon character interacting with humans, I didn't really feel like he was there. I don't think there was much they could do about it though, so I'm not going to blame the film. Favourite bit... hmm. The Ultimates-inspired fall from the helicopter, perhaps? That was all heroic and cool. I also liked the scene in the cave with the Hulk being all cute and bashful, and the battle on the university lawn. I much preferred the action in Iron Man, not quite sure why. Iron Man was just better, full stop. Yeah, there's some pretty good superhero flicks out this year, especically if Dark Knight delivers. I take it you're not planning on seeing Teeth? :P
As for Doctor Who, the finale looks like the biggest, bestest Who fangasm they could have come up with. :D It's very Avengers-y what with the Earth's (or Britain's, same thing) greatest heroes assembling. I love how they're all heroes that the Doctor is responsible for creating, it's like his reach has spread out and made everyone a better person. My only quibble is Maria and Pete - I want them to appear but they don't seem to be. I'm kind of preparing myself to say goodbye to Doctor Who; even though it's going to continue and I'm going to keep watching, I really think this is the end of the show as I know it if the frequent rumours about Tennant and Davies leaving are true. Paul 730 20:32, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
- I love the T-1000. Wasn't he one of the original CGI characters? I probably like Robert Patrick's performance more than the CGI though. I think Jurassic Park and Lord of the Rings have amazing CGI even though I'm not a big fan of those films personally. The JP dinosaurs still hold up brilliantly today. The swinging scenes in the last two Spidey movies are great as well.
- Well, I just see "Journey's End" as the finale to a really good run. If the quality stays high after that episode, great, if it doesn't... well, those four seasons kind of stand alone anyway. Like you said, all the stories of the last four years coming together for a finite ending. Do you think anyone will die? I really thought Sylvia was going to die in last weeks episode, I thought that was her hand in the body bag. Last week's episode was cool, I love alternate timelines and that kind of thing. Paul 730 21:02, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
- I don't know about that uncanny valley thing, I've always had a weird crush on Tommy Vercetti and he's hardly realistic. :P That article was interesting though, I think you're right.
- Isn't Martha set to lead TW next season? I was convinced Donna was going to die, but since she already "died" last week perhaps not? The TW and SJA characters probably won't die in a show outside their own. Maybe Rose then? Although didn't Davies say he would never kill a companion as that would undermine the shows optimism? It better not be Jackie, that' all I'm saying!! Paul 730 21:24, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
Hmm. Don't Time Lords have some control over what they look like? Didn't some Time Lady from the old series go through a number of choices before settling on her new look? I'm willing to accept any plot twist that keeps Tennant for a few more years. Davros was okay... I'm pretty unfamilar with the character so he doesn't interest me as of yet. You're right about the Daleks having good characterization but I tend to take that for granted to be honest, I'm far more interested in the "human" characters and their personal journey. Donna's fate has me worried, what was that Kaan said about eternal death or something? I'm glad the crossover characters were handled well, I was worried they would be glorified cameos but so far they're being very pretty active in the story. Paul 730 23:03, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
- So tell me what you thought of "Journey's End". I was completely blown away, but I've seen quite a negative reaction from fans on the internet (typical) which annoys me slightly. What more do they want? I won't spoil anything in case you haven't seen it yet. Paul 730 00:25, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
Surprisingly enough, Mickey was the episode's highlight for me.~ZytheTalk to me! 16:48, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
- Where's all this Mickey love come from? :P I like him and all, but his arc pretty much ended with "The Age of Steel", and he's not been very interesting since IMO. I'm sure Torchwood will breate new life into him. I too loved Rose's closure but I've read online opinions complaining that it's too fan fiction-y, with one person describing FakeDoctor as a "genocidal blow-up doll". Hmm, I guess you can't please everyone. I'm so conflicted about Donna... it's such a tragic end to one of my favourite characters. I'd love an update on her in a few years, see her enjoying life as an ordinary human (as opposed to Rose, Martha, SJ, and Jack, who are all warriors now). Paul 730 22:17, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
- I have no problem with the Doctor clone - it puts me in mind of the end to Dan Slott's She-Hulk run. We saw an alt-universe Shulkie end up with gormless love interest Pug, while in Earth-616 the two could never be together (he took a magic potion or something to erase his feelings for her, it sounds wierd but it was brilliant, honest). It was a really bittersweet ending, because we found we closure we wanted, but the main She-Hulk could move on in other stories like the Tenth Doctor. Wilf as a companion... no thanks, he was likable enough, but nah. I'm really interested as to who will be the companion in next year's specials though. Maybe a different one-off companion in each episode? Paul 730 22:39, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
Friday the 13th
editPer WP:NFF the production has to be notable. It isn't, because we know nothing about it. You've created a page that mirrors exactly what's on the franchise page, with the exception of it have an infobox (which does nothing but repeat what the prose already states). BIGNOLE (Contact me) 22:22, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
- Alien, it says it right there on the film notability guideline: "Additionally, films that have already begun shooting, but have not yet been publicly released (theatres or video), should not have their own articles, unless the production itself is notable per notability guidelines." Nothing has been reported about their production except for the shooting and start date, and that was only by the producer's blog. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 11:44, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
- Respecting you, and having the discussion. Not treating the article as if it were mine and having edit wars over this. My big problem is that nothing has changed-with the exception of a few new cast names-with the information that is there since the last time the article actually had a deletion. Brad Fuller's blog gives us just about nill when it comes to information on the film. I have a set visit that I haven't had time to read, but from what I've managed to scan, even that basically just repeats what they've already told people and what we already have. There might be some additional things about the cast, or how they got the rights, but I didn't see anything about the production itself. The film sits on a fine line, because I know they are keeping track of all that they do, but they aren't telling anyone right now. I would probably feel better if we had an official plot description for the film. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 11:57, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah, I knew. I watched a 30 second video of Jared Padalecki running through a cabin and then them pulling out this steel case and opening it up to reveal what the mask actually looked like (a cross between Part 3 and Freddy vs. Jason, which is a good thing). No one did any talking in the video, so you're left going "what's happening...tell us about the mask". BIGNOLE (Contact me) 12:17, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
Do you help
editDo you help with edits all the time on darknight page or just when needed. I think you coulde do more. Sorry to say but again Im worried about the page not being good. thanks! If you verfied the quotes like no one else is that would help. I think rules might be broken? I dont know. isnt that rule of wiki about movies and info where from? Thanks alien. Boggydark (talk) 01:01, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
Harvey Dent
editPlease stop removing my edits. I just added the source of the confrimation from a warnerbros employee who saw the film monday. there is proof! here is his posts: http://uk.rottentomatoes.com/vine/showthread.php?t=632783&page=6&pp=30 and if you dont believe that here is another review that backs him up:http://www.aintitcool.com/node/37214
- It the original post has been confirmed by other sites. It is TRUE that magizines and reviewer have already been shown the film. It is not a fake. Rolling Stones has a review, so does rotten tomatoes, and AICN. Thats 3 DIFFERENT sources all backing the other one up.
From my long experiance at the wikis I have learned that it is against the rules to delete sections off talk pages. thank youQuinlanfan2 (talk) 15:04, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
- If they are fake why are there three different sources backing it up. The warner bros employee, said that the image was concept art but it was almost identical to the one in the movie.
Im fine with it just being on Two-Faces article. When ther is a more recent version Ill upload it to the other articles. Deal? thanks Quinlanfan2 (talk) 15:09, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
Im not saying that it is relible, but the very fact that three sources backing each other up is the proof. Ive deleted stuff on my talk page and admins got pissed. Im just trying to warn you so what happened to me doesnt happen to you. you said it could go to the two face article. "I don't mind its inclusion in Two-Face's page, but I corrected it for you: it's concept art." Alientraveller Quinlanfan2 (talk) 15:14, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
- alright. i understand now. sorry for the confusionQuinlanfan2 (talk) 01:50, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
Voyage of the Dawn Treader
editI have just created this page for the new film, do not change it back to the redirect. If you have any changes you want to make, make it using the new film page. --Bray6265 (talk) 1:01, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
The Incredible Hulk (film) redux
editI'm confused as to why you reverted my edit. Have I missed something in all the published sources? Where is the serum being THE original supersoldier serum confirmed? I'm not gonna edit the wording again but, am placing a citation needed tag. Thanks. Jasynnash2 (talk) 16:07, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
Hancock
editWhat is the policy with Wikipedia and requesting for Flickr images to be used? I was looking for some images and found [4], [5], [6], and [7]. What should I do? What do you recommend choosing? I was thinking that a Smith/Theron shot would be good for the Release section, and we should be able to use a screen shot from the film to reflect the damaged Hollywood Boulevard rather than the promotional mock-up. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 18:42, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for explaining... though why can't the last image belong on Commons? It doesn't strike me as a commercial website. Feel free to educate me, as I haven't really looked at this before. I just noticed that premiere photos were becoming more of a trend. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 18:57, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
- Thank you for the link. It seems like more effort than it's worth. I'm not looking forward to the film that much, but I guess I want to see it expanded since I started off with just the development history. If it's captioned starting this Friday, I'll see it. (I'll see WALL-E without the captions, too.) I really want to see Hellboy II and The Dark Knight in the next few weeks, though. Did you read the IGN review for TDK? I'm barely suppressing my expectations for the film. I even had a weird dream last night having the film play out (with mere guessing on my part as filler). I'm sad that I didn't get to see Crystal Skull or Hulk on the big screen, though... my location is not ideal for films, and they aren't really captioned after a few months. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 19:16, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
- It's definitely been quite a summer of films! I wish I was in a better place to take advantage of seeing them. I will drive an hour to see The Dark Knight if I have to... I'm sure it's quite a viewing in IMAX format. Nolan's definitely handled Batman well, though I wonder if the ultra-realism makes expansion inflexible. The scale of The Dark Knight seems so huge that I can't imagine how a third film would follow it. I don't think I've read Batman: Dark Victory... I'm not sure about them putting up smokescreens, though. I think that if we see Robin in future films, it would not be a classic Robin look. The Nightwing identity would have its own origin, just not the independence of the character. In the MTV article, I agree with Loeb about the father-son dynamics being powerful, but I guess I feel like I've seen the relationship before. The misbehaving young lad and the stern father figure who withholds visible affection, you know? I don't know how many more are planned to be made, but a Robin-esque figure could be introduced in the third film, adopted, and only discover Batman's identity at the end of it. No rushing or anything. Then by the fourth film, he could be the sidekick. In the meantime, I'm not sure what could transpire in the third film. I really wish Nolan didn't think Penguin was workable... it could really just a kingpin (I see Philip Seymour Hoffman in that role) who finally gets the Gotham underworld under control, and Batman would also have to deal with The Riddler, who does a lot of manipulative, but no large-scale, crimes. What do you think? Any thoughts rattling in your head about the future of the film(s)? —Erik (talk • contrib) - 21:16, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
- Thank you for the link. It seems like more effort than it's worth. I'm not looking forward to the film that much, but I guess I want to see it expanded since I started off with just the development history. If it's captioned starting this Friday, I'll see it. (I'll see WALL-E without the captions, too.) I really want to see Hellboy II and The Dark Knight in the next few weeks, though. Did you read the IGN review for TDK? I'm barely suppressing my expectations for the film. I even had a weird dream last night having the film play out (with mere guessing on my part as filler). I'm sad that I didn't get to see Crystal Skull or Hulk on the big screen, though... my location is not ideal for films, and they aren't really captioned after a few months. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 19:16, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
I just finished that article and now I put it up for GA nomination. Would mind taking a quick review? Cheers.
FYI, starting next week my work schedule will become virly rapid. I will be directing a short documentary with the Sundance Institute come next week. I'll see if I can get another two film articles to GA status then.—Wildroot (talk) 18:56, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
Move
editYes, I did it wrong, i'm trying to fix it now. I reundid all my revisions. Give me 5 minutes. smooth0707 (talk) 15:02, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
Reception sections
editErik raised the possibility of updating the MOS reception section. We're going to be putting together a proposed wording for the section at User:Steve/Reception before taking it to WT:MOSFILM. If you've got any thoughts/ideas you want to share, you're more than welcome to plonk them with the rest, here. Steve T • C 20:09, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
Re: David Mitchell
editIt's nice to see he reads his own article! I'll see what I can with it, thanks. Gran2 12:24, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
- Lol, looks like my Sunday's planned. You'd think they could have had a bot fix it couldn't you? Ah well. Gran2 21:08, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
Interested?
editAny comments for [8]?--SkyWalker (talk) 05:15, 10 July 2008 (UTC) Thanks. :). BOL --SkyWalker (talk) 11:06, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
- You haven't just been watching this on TV too, have you? I always forget how much I loved that film, and end up loving it again. Steve T • C 22:39, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
Sorry, I completely missed your comment on my talk page! Yes, yes, give me the red pill, and let's see how far down the FAC hole we can go. :) —Erik (talk • contrib) - 16:59, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
Hellboy II
editIt's just groups of ten -- makes it easier to work on a batch and cross them out. That way, less scrolling involved. Nothing too complicated. :) —Erik (talk • contrib) - 17:38, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
Re: Batman Begins
editHey mate, I have begun a discussion at Talk:Batman_Begins#FA_drive_.28July_2008.29. Cheers. Gary King (talk) 18:03, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
- Hey, I hope we can work together on this future FAC. Anyways, I was just stepping through my edits and re-adding edits that did not remove info. Is the removal of content the biggest issue you have with the edits? What about the dates? I didn't actually remove a lot of info; for a lot of the unreliable references, especially those for revenue numbers which can be found at many places, I replaced them with more reliable references. If the content removal is the biggest problem, then perhaps I could revert back to mine then re-add the content that I removed? Thoughts? Cheers. Gary King (talk) 18:41, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
- I have now done this. No info was removed. Please let me know what you think so this doesn't get reverted again. Gary King (talk) 19:06, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
- So I guess overall we're on the same page. I think the Themes section should be removed, though, per this edit. Primarily because half of it is quotes, and if we really are going to have an entire section on Themes, then it should definitely be longer. But I don't think it's a really needed. Gary King (talk) 19:14, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
- Also, I don't know of the message you posted on my talk page was sarcastic or not, but I didn't mean to step on your toes when editing this article. I've just been through one-too-many FACs where the reliability of some of my references were questioned that I figure I'd just get all reliable, unquestionable references before ever submitting an article to FAC again. Gary King (talk) 19:16, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
- "Shaving bytes off" is hardly an argument ;) I will accept the second point, though. Gary King (talk) 19:25, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
- Good, glad to hear that. I definitely appreciate your work on film articles! I believe I mentioned this before ;) Anyways, I'd like to remove Themes per my point above. Thoughts? Gary King (talk) 19:29, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
- Hm, where to get more information, though? Do you have any useful sources? I'll check out E.T. to draw inspiration from that article. Gary King (talk) 19:35, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
wall-e / eve
editYour last edit was "she should not have an article". Well, she does: EVE (WALL-E). SpikeJones (talk) 20:11, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
MOSDATE
editWhat is the new standard? I just de-linked the date=
attributes at Hancock (film), and it shows differently in References between {{Cite news}} and {{Cite journal}}. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 13:32, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
- I asked SandyGeorgia about the status of MOSDATE, and she updated me. Just wanted to pass it along. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 15:24, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
Hulk 2 Redirect
editPlease see my thoughts on this in the redirect section here: Talk: Hulk 2.--Snowman Guy (talk) 15:15, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
Problem with the way you edit/explain yourself
editHere it is then for your talk page
I do not appreciate the posts you sometimes places up on the talk pages when addressing someone questions or editing.
Example of what I meen.
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull
I resently added a peice about the Wilhelm Scream to the page. It was removed. I would like to know the reason why please.Tacoman10 (talk) 20:20, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
Because it's not important. Alientraveller (talk) 21:01, 19 June 2008 (UTC))
I think explaining why it is not important is much better then just stating that it isn't.
People make mistakes and it can become frustrating when being attacked by vandals or having an edit war, but I think to sit down and take the time into explaining why you don’t find something right/true/correct rather then implying that your way is the right way makes it allot more easier and enjoyable experience for people to edit.
I do apologise for not placing this on your talk page as I am currently at work and did not realise I was not replying to your talk page. It is not my intention to have a go or have a war with you. Just thought it would be niced to people trying to learn the steps to this big busy place.
MattyC3350 (talk) 11:55, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
- But he's right. A "Wilhelm scream"? It's a sound effect. It's trivial. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 12:22, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
The Dark Knight
editDisagree with my edits if you must, but I would appreciate it you not resort to namecalling to make your point. Also, if you're so opposed to not mentioning the NYC premiere (which has received tons of media coverage, and is therfore noteworthy), why not remove it in the info sidebar as well, thus obliterating it completely from Wikipedia?Richiekim (talk) 16:59, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
Inflation information in Box Office receipts
editAs you may recall, we were involved in a discussion about inflation adjusted box office receipts. I thought the adjusted numbers were as important or more important than non-inflation adjusted numbers, and you may have disagreed. Anyway it seemed that we came to a compromise to include both as equally important. Anyway, someone deleted the inflation adjusted numbers from Titanic and I accidentally thought it was you, but it was not, so that is why my change comment reads as it does. Since I don't monitor the titanic page as much as you do, I would appreciate it if you could keep an eye on that sentence to prevent other from deleting the inflation unadjusted information. Thanks. Cshay (talk) 15:44, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
- Thank you for your support on this issue. I am going to the insist that the other editor discuss this issue in the discussion page. If he does not do this and keeps revert warring, I will bring this up with the admins. Cshay (talk) 19:50, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
- Hello. Thanks again for your support. I have to go offline for the weekend so I won't be able to respond if the poster continues to revert war. I just wanted to say that my silence this weekend does not mean I agree with his wish to delete this information from the intro paragraph. Thanks. Cshay (talk) 20:58, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
T4
editLol, was that a hint, per chance? The video's not working btw... damn you for getting me excited! :P Paul 730 20:07, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
- I saw it, thanks for the other link... meh, it looks okay, nothing truly exciting. I'm truly Bale will impress as John (when does he not?) but the trailer doesn't give enough away for me to really think anything of it. I only started writing about John because Zythe wanted to... the Terminator rewrites were his idea, we just started it in my userspace for some reason. Personally, I'm not a big John fan. Paul 730 20:19, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
Be civil, pal. No need for that kind of edit summary. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 16:15, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
Watchmen
editAw, man, I wanted more after seeing it! It was a little surreal to see all these elements of Watchmen jump off the panels like that. I kind of wish they would have briefly mentioned the time periods and all, since I can't imagine how people who didn't read Watchmen would have received Dr. Manhattan annihilating a Vietnamese troop. Bring on the film! :) —Erik (talk • contrib) - 11:04, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
Editing film articles that you have not yet seen
editI'm curious, does editing film articles that you have not seen yet spoil the fun for you? Or do you just ignore the Plot section? :) I haven't seen The Dark Knight yet (will do so tomorrow) but can't stay away from the TDK article, so I'm just trying to avoid Plot for now. Gary King (talk) 19:43, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
- Ah, that'll be fun. I'm going to pounce on that article right after I watch the movie, probably tomorrow (about 20 hours from now). A friend of mine has already seen the film four times! Gary King (talk) 20:26, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
- I just returned from seeing The Dark Knight. Epic, and well-deserving of its #1 spot on the all-time movies list on IMDB. The primary reason that I'm letting you know is because The Dark Knight (film) is going to get a lot of lovin'. Gary King (talk) 22:11, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
Film talk
editI actually got to see WALL-E with captions two weekends ago! I liked it very much, although I think I liked Ratatouille better. I agree with some critics that it was tough for the last two acts to follow the first, which was fascinating and private, you know? I did find the condition of the planet to be a bit morbid. I think the captions were useful in following the songs (not critical, but still nice) and following the live-action actor in these videos. I also saw Hancock captioned last weekend (got the article to Good Article status, the first in a long, long time), and I just found out this past hour that The Dark Knight was captioned here after all! I was checking the websites, and they didn't seem to have it. So I had given up hope till next weekend, but my friend in Chicago said there were captioned screenings of TDK there. I figured this meant the studio did have captions to distribute, so I called the theater and found out the theater had them after all! I'm trying to get my roomies up and ready to see this now! :) —Erik (talk • contrib) - 17:31, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
- I think WALL-E is great in a lot of ways, but I guess the scenes in space just felt so apart from the scenes on Earth. Definitely some interesting social commentary in the humans' portrayal, though. Let me know if you want me to go digging for any print sources to help with WALL-E. Also, have you seen the IMDb page for The Dark Knight? It's the #1 movie of all time, who would've thought!? —Erik (talk • contrib) - 21:45, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
- I think I would agree with you about Monsters, Inc. 2. It was a fun little universe that they put together. I wouldn't mind seeing The Incredibles 2, either, maybe have the younger ones come of age (not going off from the first one's ending). —Erik (talk • contrib) - 22:24, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
I thought that Ledger was very memorable, but admittedly, all the talk about his performance made me "notice" his acting more than I wanted to. I think that it did help overshadow my expectations for Eckhart's performance, which was really well-done and authentic. There are a ridiculous amount of great moments all around, too... when you see it, look on Bignole's talk page (I responded to him with my spoiler-ish thoughts on the film) to see what I liked in particular. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 15:50, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
- When do you get to see The Dark Knight, if you haven't already? I wanna know what you think! —Erik (talk • contrib) - 13:13, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
- Haha, yes! :) I enjoyed the scope of the second film, but both are definitely great. I think the Joker was Batman's first "real" challenge. It was definitely a film to turn over and over again in one's head. I didn't mind the Hong Kong subplot so much; it showed that there was a world outside Gotham City, and definitely demonstrate the effectiveness of Batman's vigilante reach. Did you wind up liking Two-Face or the Joker better? I loved how the filmmakers teased the audience with Two-Face's appearance, cutting away as he turns his head. Then seeing the full ugliness, whew. I kind of hope that he doesn't come back, though... the way they wrote him in, I can't picture him as a serial villain from hereon. I have to agree with the consensus, that the Riddler should be next. He can find out Batman's identity from Mr. Reese and set up an intricate mind-game to mess around with Wayne/Batman, compelling him to cover his own butt. Catwoman should be in, too, for new female presence. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 19:41, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
- Are you referring to the last film where Two-Face kills Robin's parents? I think that was a unique element in the film series, not found in the comics. I don't know if it needs to be repeated. I would not mind Robin being introduced because of the father-son dynamic, but I think he should have the Nightwing-esque appearance. It would definitely be hard for Nolan to top The Dark Knight thematically... that's why I'm not so sure about the Riddler, who isn't as chaotic as the Joker. I mean, I'm fine with the Riddler, but he won't garner as much interest. Two-Face was definitely a great character in the film; I grinned broadly when he first mentioned his coin. You read my thoughts about the film at Bignole's talk page, right? I launched into raving praise over there... and you do have a point about the Joker being easy to write. I think it was probably more controversial to cast the Joker than it was to write him. As for the next film, I'd be cool with the Riddler because I can't see who else could be a major enough villain. I don't know about Talia coming in; it seems a little too "full circle" for me, where it would make sense for Catwoman to pop in as part of the Batman-attracts-crazies theme, not to mention Catwoman's ambivalent morality. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 21:42, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
- VFXWorld covers the effects of Two-Face's appearance. We have a ton of stuff about every aspect of the film to add to this article. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 23:57, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
- Are you referring to the last film where Two-Face kills Robin's parents? I think that was a unique element in the film series, not found in the comics. I don't know if it needs to be repeated. I would not mind Robin being introduced because of the father-son dynamic, but I think he should have the Nightwing-esque appearance. It would definitely be hard for Nolan to top The Dark Knight thematically... that's why I'm not so sure about the Riddler, who isn't as chaotic as the Joker. I mean, I'm fine with the Riddler, but he won't garner as much interest. Two-Face was definitely a great character in the film; I grinned broadly when he first mentioned his coin. You read my thoughts about the film at Bignole's talk page, right? I launched into raving praise over there... and you do have a point about the Joker being easy to write. I think it was probably more controversial to cast the Joker than it was to write him. As for the next film, I'd be cool with the Riddler because I can't see who else could be a major enough villain. I don't know about Talia coming in; it seems a little too "full circle" for me, where it would make sense for Catwoman to pop in as part of the Batman-attracts-crazies theme, not to mention Catwoman's ambivalent morality. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 21:42, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
- Haha, yes! :) I enjoyed the scope of the second film, but both are definitely great. I think the Joker was Batman's first "real" challenge. It was definitely a film to turn over and over again in one's head. I didn't mind the Hong Kong subplot so much; it showed that there was a world outside Gotham City, and definitely demonstrate the effectiveness of Batman's vigilante reach. Did you wind up liking Two-Face or the Joker better? I loved how the filmmakers teased the audience with Two-Face's appearance, cutting away as he turns his head. Then seeing the full ugliness, whew. I kind of hope that he doesn't come back, though... the way they wrote him in, I can't picture him as a serial villain from hereon. I have to agree with the consensus, that the Riddler should be next. He can find out Batman's identity from Mr. Reese and set up an intricate mind-game to mess around with Wayne/Batman, compelling him to cover his own butt. Catwoman should be in, too, for new female presence. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 19:41, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
I have this tremendous urge to create The Joker (The Dark Knight) with all the press the specific character has had. Even the LA Times breaks down his performance! What do you think? Is that too drastic? :) —Erik (talk • contrib) - 13:41, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
Double, Double, Boy in Trouble?
editHow do you know that the season primiere is "Double, Double, Boy in Trouble"? There are no sources that link the bounty-hunter story to the title. Sυρєrıor (Reply!,Contribs) 20:59, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
- Are you saying just because DDBiT has a KABF14 code, it must go before Lost Verizon (KABF15)? It doesn't work that way. Either that, or I don't understand you. Sυρєrıor (Reply!,Contribs) 21:05, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
- That's what I'm trying to say. The production code numbers do not refer to the order the episodes go; check the List of The Simpsons episodes. Go down to season nineteen and you'll notice the episodes have not aired because of the number of their production codes. Sυρєrıor (Reply!,Contribs) 21:14, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
- Quite alright. Sυρєrıor (Reply!,Contribs) 21:19, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
- That's what I'm trying to say. The production code numbers do not refer to the order the episodes go; check the List of The Simpsons episodes. Go down to season nineteen and you'll notice the episodes have not aired because of the number of their production codes. Sυρєrıor (Reply!,Contribs) 21:14, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
Non-free images: MOSFILM draft
editI am seeking to revise WP:MOSFILM#Image to be more focused on the infobox image and shifting general instructions to a new subsection, "Non-free images", under the current MOSFILM section "Other article components". The new subsection will discuss how to best implement them and will provide instructions to do so. I began with discussion at WT:MOSFILM#Non-free images, and I've written up a draft at User:Erik/Images. If you could provide early input before I introduce the draft to the core discussion, it would be greatly appreciated. Please leave your feedback on my user talk page. Thanks, Erik (talk • contrib) - 17:33, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
Question.
editIs this reliable source?.--SkyWalker (talk) 18:37, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks, But why blogspot?. He can start a own website :). It is a awesome news that Steve is coming back. His music is just incredible. --SkyWalker (talk) 18:41, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
LOTR
editActually if you've watched the last film, he is referred to as the Witch King by Gandalf when he's talking to Pippin in Minas Tirith...A Prodigy (talk) 14:11, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
- Fair enough. A Prodigy (talk) 14:22, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
X-Men (film)
editThat lame article reminds me when I first started out on Wikipedia. We need to do something to get this reverted. —Wildroot (talk) 21:57, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
The Black Pearl
editYour contributions to the Black Pearl pages are great. I did some searches as to the history of the Black Pearl Wikipedia page and noticed you were the first one to add that Lord Cutler Beckett ordered the ship to be burned and sunk. Since this info isn't covered in the films, I'd like to know where to find the source of that referential information. Thanks, Nathan 1981 (talk) 17:46, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
Re: X-Men: First Class
editI think that in the long run, such a setup would be appropriate. I don't know if it's a fair assessment to make, though before the film even comes out. I petitioned for Road to Perdition to be about the film article since coverage for the source material was demonstrably sparse. Maybe you could find out what coverage this X-Men comic book has from sources like Wizard and Comic Book Resources. If there is a compelling amount of material, it may be best to have a disambiguation page with X-Men: First Class (film) and X-Men: First Class (comic book). By the way, maybe we should put a hatnote at the comic book article to point at the relevant section in the film series article. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 16:57, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
- Hah, I am actually typing out discussion to initiate at WT:FILM this very moment. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 19:01, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
- I sort of misunderstood the situation, though... I thought that the only justification was the "his life's mission" bit. No wonder it's so easy to question, being so distant from the intended context! It seems more appropriate now that I see that context, and its location is better. Though I imagine with some dedication, a high-quality article would have room for non-free images that don't come from a prologue. This situation does remind me of the image at Jurassic Park (film)#Legacy, though I'm not so sure about these Plot section images... :) —Erik (talk • contrib) - 19:27, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
- I look forward to Wolverine, but I'm a little overwhelmed by how many characters they're trying to cram into this film. Schreiber looks well-cast as Sabretooth, though. I think that a Magneto film would be great; Magneto's concentration camp scene really stood out for me. We're so used to powers being demonstrated in a contemporary setting, so it would be fascinating to see Magneto get his way through the earlier decades and environments. I kind of wish, though, that filmmakers could have figured out a way to set up for a mutant universe at large with the first three films. It feels like what they're doing now is only kinda-sorta fitting, though I imagine comics have tried to do that, anyway. :) —Erik (talk • contrib) - 19:51, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
- I would definitely love to see Captain America if they had equal halves of World War II and the contemporary period! I think it would be better than a mere prologue because it could establish the Captain's involvement with 1940s America and its people, then tear him away from it and force readjustment in the new, future world. Think Red Skull should appear, though? I've never truly read much about him, and I very vaguely remember his appearance from that lousy Captain America film a while ago. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 20:00, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
- Is it really already established? That would be even better, but I never expected a studio to do that. I guess I need to catch up a little with the potential superhero films! You and Wildroot have been doing too good of a job. I haven't read Todd Alcott's blog, but I will take a look at what he has to say. Also, Peter Sanderson's review sounds worth reading based on his background. Let me know when it appears! —Erik (talk • contrib) - 20:32, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
If you want to say anything, feel free to do so here. If you notice any malicious edits on my watchlist, you can let me know, too. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 21:13, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
Edit warring (Blocked)
editHey, I noticed you've passed Three reverts to Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade today. (Diffs: [9] [10] [11] [12] [13]). This appears to me to be disruptive edit warring, and, as you have been blocked in the past for this behavior I expect that you understand it is not acceptable here. As such, to prevent further disruption, I have blocked you for twenty-four hours. When you return, please try to work things out with your fellow contributors instead of just repeatedly reverting. SQLQuery me! 20:42, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
- Damn! Well I won't argue even though I didn't edit war and the discussion went absolutely fine, but oh well. All hail the almighty admins, lol! Alientraveller (talk) 20:56, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
- Oh, and will someone undo this silly billy, he/she completely ignored the talk page! Alientraveller (talk) 21:00, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
- No, you were not 'switching back and forth between revisions', you were constantly and consistently switching back to your preferred version (removing an image and some referenced text). That, is edit warring. SQLQuery me! 21:15, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
- Right, three reverts, then I moved the image, then I fixed the reference. I broke no rules. Alientraveller (talk) 21:20, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
- No, you were not 'switching back and forth between revisions', you were constantly and consistently switching back to your preferred version (removing an image and some referenced text). That, is edit warring. SQLQuery me! 21:15, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
- Oh, and will someone undo this silly billy, he/she completely ignored the talk page! Alientraveller (talk) 21:00, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
Alientraveller (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
Administrator has not bothered to read the talk page discussion at all. These five reverts did not also consist of switching back and forth between revisions: they involved civil discussion too. Now some random editor has completely ignored talk page consensus. Alientraveller (talk) 21:06, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
Decline reason:
I believe the evidence of a 3RR violation is somewhat borderline, to be honest. However, the full sequence of five edits indicates to me that edit warring was indeed happening, and a short block is an appropriate response to that. — ChrisO (talk) 22:51, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
Disputed non-free use rationale for Image:Ringstrilogyposter.jpg
editThank you for uploading Image:Ringstrilogyposter.jpg. However, there is a concern that the rationale provided for using this image on Wikipedia may not meet the criteria required by Wikipedia:Non-free content. This can be corrected by going to the image description page and add or clarify the reason why the image qualifies under this policy. Adding and completing one of the templates available from Wikipedia:Non-free use rationale guideline is an easy way to ensure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy. Please be aware that a non-free use rationale is not the same as an image copyright tag; descriptions for images used under the non-free content policy require both a copyright tag and a non-free use rationale.
If it is determined that the image does not qualify under the non-free content policy, it might be deleted by an administrator within a few days in accordance with our criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions, please ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thank you. J Milburn (talk) 17:28, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
Re: Doomsday
editIt was enjoyable, but not amazing. Worth the rental, though! The DVD had a captioned commentary and captioned featurettes, which made me a happy lad. As you can tell, I've pulled a couple of screenshots from the film and implemented them (no more hottie tatooed survivor). I have random details in the sandbox, but I'm not sure if they really have any kind of place in the article. I was wondering, if you don't plan to see the film, can you read the Plot section and fix any American spellings? I think I'm gonna nominate it for Good Article status. It will be nice to use this as an example of how to implement screenshots. Do you think they fit well? I have two free images in the mix, too, so it seems like a decent balance. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 17:09, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks! I figured it's easier for you and Steve to spot such discrepancies, while it's easier for me and Bignole to spot when it's the other way around. Funny how that works. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 17:25, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
Since you have contributed to some superhero film related articles in the past, would you mind helping me build/clean up this article? It will need work with:
- Removing speculation.
- Adding more titles.
- Removing all non superhero-ish films.
- And any other improvement edits.
Would you mind helping me out? Thanks.--Snowman Guy (talk) 18:14, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
- Hey Snowman. Iam interested in helping you out. --SkyWalker (talk) 08:03, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
Re: Bane
editWell, I did do some "work" on the article, and was gonna add a peer review for the article, but, never got to it. Yeah, I'd be interested in helping you out to get the article to GA. ;) What are you proposing? -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 00:21, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
A.I.
editI'm nearly finished with the A.I. Artificial Intelligence article and it would be nice if you did a "article polish". Thanks. I'm adding in the DVD special features for tomorrow and the day after tomorrow. Tonight my short documentary is having a premiere at the Tower Theatre (Salt Lake City, Utah). —Wildroot (talk) 19:51, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
Edge of Darkness
editFYI, since you've been putting together the "Film adaptation" section, filming is reported to start on Edge of Darkness on 18 August. Just search Google News on that date for the typical "filming started today" report and create the article. I suggest using "(2009 film)" in the meantime since it's unfortunately the best rule of thumb (IMDb, sigh) we have in lieu of actual verifiability of when it could come out. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 16:13, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
I need your opinion
editTalk:X-Men (film)/GA2 Wildroot (talk) 17:06, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
Oh and the X-Men article needs a quick edit.—Wildroot (talk) 17:26, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, I got the DVD. —Wildroot (talk) 18:53, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
Question: Do you think this comment useful?
"Unknown actor Sterling Wolfe told Harry Knowles of Aint It Cool News that he had read for the role, but did not hear back for over a month." —Wildroot (talk) 19:00, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi, Alientraveller. Could you please share your thoughts at #I choose Controversy? Cheers, —Mizu onna sango15Hello! 01:27, 9 August 2008 (UTC).
- I saw what WikiLight said, and I've got your (and his) talk page watchlisted. Don't worry, I will bring this to ANI if he continues to disrupt. Cheers, —Mizu onna sango15Hello! 18:58, 9 August 2008 (UTC).
Fallen
edit- You seem to have a pretty good grasp on the Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen article.
- The recent "edit" of "all what is know is the fallen and the decpticons are looking for is something called "the splinter" wich could be a shard of the all spark." you rightly removed...
- But it got me thinking...
- We DID see Prime pick up something - ostensibl an Allspark chard - at the end of the battle in movie 1.
- So just for kicks, I thought I'd ask you what your thoughts on the idea are?
- I know, this really has no bearing on Wikipedia or anything, but it was of (marginal) interest.
- Who knows...? Take Care, Vengeance is mine, saith the Prime 21:12, 10 Aug 2008 (UTC)
- Grimlock would be awesome to see in 3. Blackout was really cool except for only having a scene and a half. Bonecrusher...who? ;-)
- I think a sort of "prequel" would be great where Grimlock and the dinobots arrived to Earth a million years or so ago and took the form of the largest moving beings, searching for the Allspark, then Shockwave appeared and, well, they all got jacked up. (Pretty much exactly like the Marvel G1 continuity goes... Maybe Ratchet could even find them again!)
- When I saw the original "piece of Allspark" moment in 1, I figured it was going to turn in to a Creation Matrix of some sort. Time will tell.
- Take Care, Vengeance is mine, saith the Prime 21:36, 10 Aug 2008 (UTC)
- You know the one I REALLY liked about the comic series? It didn't have Unicron until the last days. It made a good ending. Energon Cubes and Unicron...two things the animated series really focused on too much.
- That said, a history would be nice, like a The War Within movie that takes place mostly on Cybertron. Of course, this could even be done as flashbacks, maybe even incorporating Dinobot history!
- I can't personally think of a "perfect" form for Soundwave. I mean, he's a boombox! Who uses those anymore? And making him an MP3 player would be pathetic. He has to be something widel recognizeable and sound-related. I was thinking some sort of Radar ...thing... but an AWACS aircraft just doesn't strike terror into me, and something like a PATRIOT radar would be ... plodding.
- Good thing I just don't have to come up with the script!
- So long as there's no energon cubes, I think I'll be fine.
- And no more of this pointless dialogue (like when the Autobots "introduced" themselves).
- Till all are one! Vengeance is mine, saith the Prime 21:51, 10 Aug 2008 (UTC)
Keanu in X-Men
editYou really can't use that article that way. "Expressed interest" is not notable in of itself, since there's no indication that he followed up on his desire. Think of it this way: him "expressing interest" in playing Wolverine is analogus to him "expressing interest" in eating a roast beef sandwich that day. He would like to do it, but that doesn't mean he bothered to go to the deli and peruse the menu. WesleyDodds (talk) 22:55, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
- I mean, literally all he says in the article is "I would like play Wolverine". That's all we're given. We can't extrapolate beyond that, so it's useless as reference material. WesleyDodds (talk) 23:02, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
hahahaha
editNice one!ThuranX (talk) 22:02, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
Sorry to bother you, but I worked extensively on the Batman Returns article today. Are you willing to do a polish (specifically in the development section. Dan Waters says some interesting stuff). Cheers. —Wildroot (talk) 02:31, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
Wikipedia is XHTML
editThere is a concerted effort within Wikipedia to bring articles up to XHTML standard (where they are supposed to be) because articles are scraped by XML parsers for the mobile version of Wikipedia and third-party sites. Please do not revert changes toward this effort. -- Scjessey (talk) 13:39, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
Can you sent me a link for the easiest way to create those inline cite things where you use the same source at several spots within an article? Thanks. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 20:22, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
Most recent Empire
editHey there. I don't suppose you have a copy of the latest Empire sitting around anywhere close by do you? The one with the Hellboy II review in it. I was hoping you'd be able to do me a little favour and throw me the the review page number, the date of the issue, and the volume and issue number. Thanks, Steve T • C 13:46, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- D'oh, thanks. I guess they stopped delaying online publication of reviews for big films after complaints or something. Steve T • C 13:51, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
Consultant help (nothing serious)
editAt User:Wildroot/Superman series I am "redoing" the cast page for Superman film series. I just need your opinion. Do I include Superman II: The Richard Donner Cut? Yes or no. FYI school starts tomorrow so I'll be getting pulled back. Plus I need to focus on getting my Eagle Scout status. I'll probably be doing another apprenticeship at Sundance starting in January. Nonetheless my schedule shouldn't be too blocked in the coming months. —Wildroot (talk) 00:27, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
Iron Man
editBut of course (to quote James Bond). --Tenebrae (talk) 06:26, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
Superman
editI don't know, it's been 30 years since Donner's film, and even though it's still great today I wouldn't mind a true "reboot". I mean, it doesn't necessarily have to be exactly like Donner's. There doesn't have to be so much time spent before you see Superman. What I want is a better relationship between Clark and Lois. In Superman Returns she didn't even know Clark existed. I was really annoyed by that. I understand, and appreciate, the idea that she is in love with Superman and generally thinks of nothing else...but, there has to be more to her relationship with Clark. There needs to be hints of chemistry and sparks, but something that mabye Lois intentionally hides because she is still in love with Superman. I think create a "real" love triangle between her, Clark, and Superman would be very interesting to watch on film. You could really tackle the psychology behind Clark having to pretend to be this bumbling idiot to disguise his identity as Superman, but at the same time that bumbling idiot works so well that Lois cannot see the man that he truly is. There can be more confliction shown in him as he tries to win Lois' heart without being Superman. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 01:01, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
- He had his moments, but he's no George Lazenby. To me, Lazenby was better than Moore as Bond. I love For Her Majesty's Secret Service. Lazenby, to me, was the first person that actually made Bond seem human. Back to Routh, I have this theory that they believed his acting ability wasn't that good so that's why he doesn't have a lot of dialogue exchange in the movie. I think he did a descent job doing Reeve's "Superman voice", and a horrible job trying to do Reeve's "Clark Kent voice" (since he supposedly went to voice classes so that he could sound like him). The part at the Kent farm, where he's talking to Martha...it was so monotone. I was like, show some real emotion dude. I think he best acting came when Luthor stabbed him with the kryptonite shard and he screamed out in pain, personally. Pain is a hard emotion to act, and he actually did a good job showing it. Then again, what more can you expect from soap opera actors, they really aren't know for their shining jewels of thespians. I really would have preferred they waited a few years and used Tom Welling, He's certainly grown phyiscally into the part - something I felt Routh never, completely, physically fit into. My only problem with using him is that they have yet to establish two identities. Right now, Clark acts very Supermanly, and in order to keep his secret he is going to have to start developing a different persona while around people - something they hopefully explore this coming season.
- I'd like your opinion on something else as well. I'm looking for an image for the infobox of the Clark Kent article I've created (it's still in my sandbox at the moment). Which of these do you like? 1, 2, 3, 4, or5. If you know of one on the web that's better, please suggest as well. Also, should I go ahead and move the sandbox into the mainspace, or wait till I at least have all that book information there first? Thanks. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 13:51, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
- That's the best I could do, trying to find something with good lighting. If you come across anything in the future, please feel free to swap 'em. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 19:06, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
- Don't know. Have you been editing with either of those people listed? BIGNOLE (Contact me) 14:00, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
You should submit the asticle for wp:FAC. Nergaal (talk) 04:22, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
For some reason the Superman Returns box appears smaller. How do you fix that, or can you? —Wildroot (talk) 18:23, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
Temple of Doom
editSorry but I happened to have bought that book. —Wildroot (talk) 21:36, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
Of course you can. Raiders is my favorite but Last Crusade is still a masterpiece. I felt Temple of Doom was actually pretty good. Most fans seem to hate it. TOD was actually my favorite as a child. With Kingdom of the Crystal Skull I was somewhat disappointed. However, I still loved it and enjoyed it. That film could have been a lot better, but at the same time Lucas could have made it worse if he had creative control. I really am curious about this. I grew up on the Indiana Jones films, I never thought a fourth film would actually get made. Let alone a fifth. —Wildroot (talk) 21:42, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
Single film
editAbout this, the TV scheduling stuff was silly (thanks for removing it), but I'm sure Peter Jackson said somewhere that he considers the trilogy to be one whole film. Well, in the sense that it is a single story and not three separate stories (eg. Indiana Jones series is separate stories). In the sense that each film was edited and released as a separate film, then yes, they are three separate films. There is also the history where the number of films proposed at various times varied. Anyway, the wording could be improved, and probably doesn't need to go into the detail it does (a separate article on film series, including the examples given there, would be nice), but it's not that wrong. Can't find a suitable source at the moment though. Carcharoth (talk) 04:29, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
Temple of Doom
editAlmost done with the article. Just need to add a chapter of The Complete Making of Indiana Jones. Could you do a risky article polish? Thanks. —Wildroot (talk) 03:52, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen
editHi there. Sorry for adding duplicate info to Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen. I imagined it would have been added, but I honestly didn't see it! I might add the extra bit about Roberto Orci mentioning them wanting to protect his hand. -- JediLofty Talk to meFollow me 12:50, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
- I don't care who comes in really. I just hope there are more for both sides; you know, have some dog fights in the air. I guess we also know that the corvette is an Autobot. I think, with its design, it would have been better as a Decepticon. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 11:29, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
The Dark Knight disambiguation
editThere's been a little more discussion about the disambiguation page The Dark Knight at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Disambiguation#The Dark Knight. Since you expressed an opinion earlier, you might like to join the discussion there and explain whether you think the film is or isn't the primary topic for the phrase "The Dark Knight". Thanks! —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 04:51, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
The Matrix
editHi Alientraveller,
i didn'n like your recent alterations very much. There really has to be a difference between a simulated reality and the true world with its real sensations. The problem might be to find out where your peronality begins and the cultural influnence ends. I'm doing some little work in the next time, maybe you could check your messages. Gordenie (talk) 14:43, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
214.13.162.2
editHi there. I just thought I'd mention that 214.13.162.2 has been blocked! Whether he'll read the pages you showed him (and if so, whether he'll heed them) I'm not sure! -- JediLofty Talk to meFollow me 13:08, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
- I hope so too. Mr Anon certainly seems to have a bee in his/her bonnet about Rotten Tomatoes and Metacritic. I can't understand what his/her problem is... (s)he calls them "commercial sites"... I've never had to pay to use them! -- JediLofty Talk to meFollow me 13:14, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
Commercial means they make a profit dummy. 214.13.192.187 (talk) 04:50, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
Alice filming
editPlymouth, England. Are you disappointed that Burton is using motion-capture technology. I mean, having someone in a giant rabbit suit would look stupid, but I just don't know.—Wildroot (talk) 21:40, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
I think it's likely, but I wouldn't put Frankenweenie in its own separate article at the moment. Also, User:97198 will not update Temple of Doom to GA status. All of her suggestions have been completed for hours and she will not respond. It's probably safe for one of us to just update it ourselves. I don't know.
About Alice in Wonderland. Are the creatures going to be motion capture, while Alice will be played by that Aussie actress, or will the entire film be motion capture. Maybe they'll do something like James and the Giant Peach where the first 15 minutes are live action. Still dissatisfied that my favorite filmmakers (Spielberg and Jackson on Tin Tin, Zemeckis on his recent films, Burton with Wonderland) are using that technology. Oh well.—Wildroot (talk) 18:30, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
Oxford Wikimania 2010 and Wikimedia UK v2.0 Notice
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RE: Thor
editThanks for letting me know, bro - appreciate it. Mainly because his looks far better than mine so I'm glad the article's in good hands somewhere haha. Thanks again =) -- Harish (Talk) - 07:51, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
Bro, I was a lil confused by Wildroot's response to me. Seems stressed or something, should I leave it? I assume you know his style so figured I'd ask. -- Harish (Talk) - 09:51, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
Haha, thanks bro. -- Harish (Talk) - 14:11, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
re: Pixar template
editI'll follow your lead on the best way to handle it since you're better versed in movie-related templates. I was just sick of the continually add it/delete it/add it mentality of the fanboys who want to instantly add everything they hear to WP that I submitted the template for protection so the matter can be discussed. SpikeJones (talk) 17:06, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
Kong Franchise
editI merged a lot of stubs into this article, and now you want to delete all that merged information? I think that is a very bad idea, and doesn't improve the article. Let's source what's there and trim a bit, not cut all the text, and then have to re-hunt all the same information over again. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 21:06, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
- What dummy unmerged some of those articles? Sigh. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 23:24, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
Copy-editing
editDon't be afraid to do "polishes" on my articles. Right now I'm working on Superman (film). FYI, that's not the official lead section. I only left it there because I'm too lazy to write a new one. Cheers. —Wildroot (talk) 02:30, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
Lionel
editThanks. I don't have the comic (yet), so I was going by what other people had written. Thanks for correcting it. So, what to you think of the page now? BIGNOLE (Contact me) 15:57, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
- Oh, I still plan to expand the article more, even the reception section. I was just looking through some other things and saw that and realized it could be useful but I'll need to find more to go with it. Do you think the Smallville section in Appearances needs to be expanded more, or do you think it summarizes the character's actions well enough? BIGNOLE (Contact me) 16:24, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
Terminator
editWatched it online at Sidereel, but I thought you frowned on that sort of thing? It was pretty brilliant I must say, real edge of your seat excitement, it put me in the mood to go and watch T2. Paul 730 22:46, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
Watchmen
editHowdy :) I see you removed a link to a movieset.com page to the Watchmen. Movieset are an up and coming site that are like the "DVD extras" for movies, as such they get a lot of content thats unique. The movie was shot in Burnaby, BC, Canada and Movieset are located in Vancouverm BC, Canada. They have all sorts of photos, trailers, stills, content related to that movie so I am not sure why you thought the link to the Watchmen page was 'spam'.
The point is, I think its a valid content source for reference and user interest. Please let me know your thoughts and if you checked the site that was referenced before removing the link - Carlo - 18:12, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
- That's a great idea actually. I am relatively new to Wiki, only a few years. I appreciate the heads up on the addition of content, it makes more sense to reference unique content rather than the general site page referring to the movie, cheers :) - - Carlo (talk) 18:29, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
X-Men films
editJust checked the video game's article. It's canon. Emperor001 (talk) 01:38, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
GA Hold on The Dark Knight (film)
editThe article The Dark Knight (film) (nominated by Gary King as a good article) has been placed on hold . It hasn't failed because it's basically a good article, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needed to be addressed. If these are fixed within seven days, the article will pass, otherwise it will fail. See Talk:The Dark Knight (film) for things needed to be addressed. -- I noticed you are one of the major contributors to the article so I thought I would give you a heads up. Cheers, Cirt (talk) 22:33, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
- Update: My points were addressed, passed the article as GA. Cirt (talk) 05:25, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
Orphaned non-free media (Image:Indianagrabsidol.jpg)
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Watchmen FAR
editWatchmen is currently up at Featured Article Review. I'm writing a brand spankin' new version of the article here. Given you've done a bit of work on the film page, could you handle the section about the film that summarizes the main article? Cover everything from the earliest development to the current lawsuit. Don't bother mentioned the cast; it's an ensemble piece and none of the actors really stand out enough to mention them in this article. Two paragraphs feels like a reasonable length for the section. WesleyDodds (talk) 03:26, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
- Hey, I'm close to finishing my rewrite of the article. I'm hoping to have it done by Friday. If you can rework the film section by then that's great, but if you can't let me know. WesleyDodds (talk) 06:32, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
- I don't use citation templates. You can make edits using them, and then I can format the references to match the citation style in the rest of the article draft afterwards. WesleyDodds (talk) 08:49, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
- Movie rights being sold, failed projects, then Snyder, then Alan Moore bitching about Hollywood (Watchmen Babies!!!). I think a straightforward chronoglogical layout is the best approach. Also, feel free to tackle the lead; kind of stuck on that one. WesleyDodds (talk) 09:09, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks. I think there's three paragraphs there I can turn into one. I'll straighten it all out in the morning. Should we mention the legal battle between Warner Bros. and Fox, or do you think that is not necessary for that article? WesleyDodds (talk) 10:04, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah, I need to start thinking about what images we need to add. One of my thoughts is a scan of a page, showcasing the grid style and symbols, but I haven't decided which page yet. For the movie, probably best to get a shot with more than one character, but since Snyder's whole thing is making the movie as close as possible to the book, a comparison image would be acceptable if you can get that. WesleyDodds (talk) 22:16, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks. I think there's three paragraphs there I can turn into one. I'll straighten it all out in the morning. Should we mention the legal battle between Warner Bros. and Fox, or do you think that is not necessary for that article? WesleyDodds (talk) 10:04, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
- Movie rights being sold, failed projects, then Snyder, then Alan Moore bitching about Hollywood (Watchmen Babies!!!). I think a straightforward chronoglogical layout is the best approach. Also, feel free to tackle the lead; kind of stuck on that one. WesleyDodds (talk) 09:09, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
- I don't use citation templates. You can make edits using them, and then I can format the references to match the citation style in the rest of the article draft afterwards. WesleyDodds (talk) 08:49, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
After reflecting on the same issue on the Watchmen article, I don't think the second Nite Owl and Silk Spectre characters should be listed as "Nite Owl II" or "Silk Spectre II" in the comic and film article character lists, as these are not their proper names. This is one of those conventions that seems normal to us comic book-readin' folks (I really hated it when Geoff Johns brought Green Lantern II back to replace Green Lantern V), but has no relevance outside of fan circles. The addition of the civilian names next to the secret IDs should be enough to clear up any confusion an unfamiliar reader might have. WesleyDodds (talk) 10:34, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
- Surprisingly I didn't find anything that talked about the quote, aside from Alan Moore mentioning that Harlan Ellison explained to him where the quote came from. WesleyDodds (talk) 21:46, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
I missed the link you posted a few days ago. Anyway, I'd say the most relevant thing Gibbons says about Veidt is "I think that probably is one of the worst of his sins, that it’s kind of looking down on the rest of humanity, scorning the rest of humanity". That seems like a concise statement about the character. Probably don't need the bits comparing him to Rorscharch. You can work it into the character section how you feel fit. I'm still decompressing a bit after the FAR ended. WesleyDodds (talk) 08:40, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
Re: Star Trek
editWell, the Star Trek wiki Memory Alpha has the 'clean' posters for all the films, so that's not an issue. I am actually surprised no crazy fan has come after me for cleaning up Khan or Vulcan yet, but my response I guess is "screw it, I'm being bold." It's pathetic when a seven-year old game franchise is essentially the only good model for a fiction universe not spiraled out of control (but hey, if you know other ones, let me know :P) My efforts in cleaning 'em up are promotion, as deletion and reorganization rarely gets me anywhere. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs (talk) 14:32, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
- By the way, when will I see Iron Man at FAC? :P Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs (talktalk) 14:33, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
- It's not what you like, its that it's pretty close to FA standard, and I know you want a shiny star :P Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs () 21:41, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
Buffyverse God
editJoss Whedon is an atheist and absurdist, and in Buffy's own words, there's "nothing solid" about the existence of God in the series. Buffy's description of heaven was "Wherever I was, I was happy. At peace. I knew that everyone I cared about was all right. I knew it. Time didn't mean anything, nothing had form, but I was still me, you know? And I was warm and I was loved and I was finished. Complete. I don't understand about theology or dimensions, or any of it really. But I think I was in heaven". There are higher beings known as the Powers That Be in Angel, who aid the characters in their mission but no actual "God". Vampire's weaknesses to wood (and more notably, crucifixes and holy water) are never explained in the series, and are probably more to do with pop culture archetypes than theology. Personally, I like the lack of religion in Buffy, because I'm agnostic and if they portrayed Christianity etc as fact it would alienate me a little. Have you read the story where the Fantastic Four go to heaven and meet God? I thought it sounded awful, but actually really enjoyed the metafictional way in which it was done (God appearing as Jack Kirby, lol). Paul 730 22:12, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
- I like the portrayal of heaven in that story as well, that of an abstract dimension where reality shifts depending on a person's personal desires and fantasies and nothing you see is really "real", it's just our own perception of something that's far beyond our tiny human understanding. Paul 730 14:55, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
- I agree that there can be mutiple canons in a franchise; Halloween has three alternate timelines, which are very different but all enjoyable in their own way. However, I think Friday the 13th (and Nightmare on Elm Street, since it's a shared universe per Freddy vs Jason) is one big timeline. I just found it funny that Stan Lee thought a Norse God who flew via magic hammer was more believable than an alien who could fly naturally. It wasn't a complaint at all. :) I'm a Doctor Who fan, if I cared about realistic science my head would explode. Paul 730 21:15, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
- Bad science can be funny sometimes, like on DW where it's basically an in-joke by now that the screwdriver can do anything. I know it upsets some people though, "Journey's End" took it to a whole new level. It depends on the tone of the series as well; I expect better science from Terminator, for example, that I do from Buffy or Doctor Who. Paul 730 21:32, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
- I agree that there can be mutiple canons in a franchise; Halloween has three alternate timelines, which are very different but all enjoyable in their own way. However, I think Friday the 13th (and Nightmare on Elm Street, since it's a shared universe per Freddy vs Jason) is one big timeline. I just found it funny that Stan Lee thought a Norse God who flew via magic hammer was more believable than an alien who could fly naturally. It wasn't a complaint at all. :) I'm a Doctor Who fan, if I cared about realistic science my head would explode. Paul 730 21:15, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
Would you mind doing an article polish? Thanks. Wildroot (talk) 02:32, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
Great work!
editHey, I just wanted to commend you on the excellent catch you made in the “Alice in Wonderland” AfD discussion – based on the new source you presented, I switched my vote to Keep. Great work! Ecoleetage (talk) 18:06, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
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whoops?
editI think I may have screwed up Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End with an edit I made this morning, but for the life of me I can't see the typo in the compare. Can you check? SpikeJones (talk) 12:59, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
- Thank you; I also figured there was a series article - just didn't look for it. cheers! SpikeJones (talk) 13:53, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
Oh yes, I really like the poster. It definitely sells it as the thriller it's supposed to be, something other than an over-serious, talky period piece. There's been a distinct shift in the tone of the Google news alerts I've been getting about the film since Cruise's appearance in Tropic Thunder (and since they brought the release date forward). People seem to be actually looking forward to Valkyrie, rather than for any excuse to bash it. Steve T • C 14:58, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
Assistance
editHello, hope you've been doing well! I'm truly jealous of how you've continued to be so prolific with editing these articles. It is nice to know that they are in such good hands, though! I'm kind of creeping back to Wikipedia partially due to the election wrapping up, but I think I will have my hands off regular article maintenance for the time being. I'm going to focus on community discussions. Just wanted to let you know that if you need me to weigh in about an issue with any particular article, just drop a line on my talk page, and I'll come by. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 21:43, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
- I am alright with Megatron coming back. I guess it depends on how convincing the resurrection is, since his underwater prison sounds like it would have been inaccessible. I never followed Transformers religiously, but I liked the Constructicons the best because of how they came together to make one big bot. It's definitely a busy season for films right now; I really think I'm going to have to narrow my scope if I want to work on any article. Was thinking about starting a science fiction film task force when/if school ever lets up. Good call on not buying Casino Royale right away... buying the first edition and the special edition is "double dipping", isn't it? I really need to see The Incredible Hulk and Indy 4 since I never got to see them in theaters last summer. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 22:10, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
San Jose Mercury News, "Steve Jobs and Tinseltown", April 21, 2003 mentions: "'Jobs is an amazing strategist; he's been playing Eisner like a harp,' said Jim Hill, Disney insider and Webmaster at Jim Hill Media, a site that tracks the entertainment industry. 'Eisner doesn't want to admit it, but he is a man who is genuinely concerned about what his legacy is going to be.'" Other hits:
- Winston-Salem Journal, "Ian McShane's character in Deadwood was based on a real person", March 5, 2005: "No official release date has been announced yet. But according to Jim Hill Media (www.jimhillmedia.com), a Web site that specializes in news about the Walt Disney Company, a DVD release is being considered for fall of 2006, to commemorate the 60th anniversary of the film... According to the report at Jim Hill Media , Disney is expected to include a documentary on the DVD that puts the film in a historic perspective, and probably will also hire a prominent black entertainer to introduce the film."
- Republican-American, "This week's column will take a circuitous path, beginning with the reactions to films from the House of Apatow", September 17, 2007: "How do I know? Because Pixar, which made Ratatouille, is in a fight with Disney, which distributed the movie, over why the film wasn't as big a blockbuster as other Pixar-Disney movies like, say, Toy Story (1995) or Finding Nemo (2003). This according to Jim Hill Media, a Web site that follows Disney."
- Atlanta Journal-Constitution, "Movie mojo", March 25, 2005: "In a recent Internet posting, Disney-obsessed Jim Hill Media reports that sources deep inside Buena Vista Home Entertainment revealed that a special-edition Song of the South DVD would be released in fall 2006."
Here's a worthwhile one... CNNfn, "Outlook for Disney", May 12, 2004... a full-fledged interview with Jim Hill. A few bits:
- HAFFENREFFER: Tell me a little about whether -- as you've just heard the earnings from the company, again, beating expectations by about 5 cents on a per share basis. From what you've heard, is this enough to take some of the heat off Michael Eisner?
- HILL: Certainly, Michael Eisner could have use the good news now, so this was welcome. The problem is they're relying on the theme parks right now. And frankly, between what is going on with gas prices as well as concerns about terrorism, the theme park growth right now, it's a paper-thin type thing. All it will take is gas prices creeping a little further north, or to be honest, an orange alert, and attendance will drop in Orlando and Anaheim.
...
- HAFFENREFFER: Last question. This one concerning Euro Disney, this one concerning the financial dire straits Euro Disney is in, if it doesn't get supplemental financing some way. They may not be able to meet their financial obligations. What will happen? Is Euro Disney going to be around in a couple years or not?
- HILL: Oh, certainly. The fact of the matter is Euro Disney continues to make money hand over fist. The problem is the debt. They have $2 billion worth of debt right now. Sadly, what it looks like is going to have to happen is that, unless somebody comes forward before the May 31st deadline, they're going to have to reorganize over there. Maybe the park will close for a couple days, but it will come back stronger without the debt and continue to make, you know, huge, huge money for whoever ends up owning Euro Disney at that point.
Oh, he was also interviewed again with CNNfn on March 3, 2004... "Perspective On Eisner & Future of Disneys". Hold on, it mentions that he was in a critical WSJ article about Mr. Eisner... bingo--
- McBride, Sarah (2004-03-02). "Mice That Roar: Obsessive Fans Join Disney Proxy Fight; Online Minutiae Lovers Dwell On Big Stuff for Once; Cobwebs Turn the Tide". Wall Street Journal.
Some quotes...
- "In mid-January, self-described "Disney dweeb" Jim Hill was roused from an evening catnap by a surprise caller: Roy E. Disney, asking for Mr. Hill's advice on his effort to get Michael Eisner thrown out as Walt Disney Co.'s chairman and chief executive."
- "For the past weeks, as they campaign to unseat Mr. Eisner, Mr. Disney and his business partner Stanley Gold have tried to tap into the wonderful world of Disney fanatics. With a hot boardroom battle under way at Disney, jimhillmedia.com had about 1.5 million viewers last week, up threefold from three months ago. 'A little teeny Web site is suddenly drawing porn numbers,' says Mr. Hill with pride."
Oh, what the heck, I found a link. :) Hope that gives you an idea about him. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 23:48, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
My work on that article is in desperate need of a polish, especially the Development section.Wildroot (talk) 02:30, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
Re: What next
editI dunno. If I actually thought the GAN would help with the prose (which I believe is the only real issue) I'd do it, but usually I just take it straight to FA. That said, I've got another article I'm talking to FAC first, so if you wanted to put it up at GAN and see if it gets reviewed in the meantime that's fine.
I've started pooling sources for The Undiscovered Country, but I'm not sure if I'll work on that next-- I'd have to buy the DVD (yeah, ten bucks is expensive :P) and I also want to get some other stuff moving (Edward Drinker Cope, Myst V) so I don't really know If I'll be able to focus on any one project exclusively. I guess I've entertained the thought of doing a Star Trek films FTC, but I definitely couldn't do that alone. (Generations and First Contact would be the next films to focus on in terms of potential). Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs (talk) 17:12, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
Notice
editPlease accept this notice to join the Good Article Collaboration Center, a project aimed at improving five articles to GA status every month. We hope to see you there!--LAAFansign review 02:05, 6 October 2008 (UTC) {{{1}}} |
User;Wildroot/Back
editJust, thank you for all you did. That's a great way to start a new article for the BEST film from the 1980s. Wildroot (talk) 22:13, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for adding the DVD special features too. I was planning on that, but that's nice. You must really like Back to the Future as much as me. I'll see if there's any valuable info from "The Making of" book and The Cinema of Robert Zemeckis. Wildroot (talk) 20:49, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
I already recorded about 20 minutes' worth of the audio commentary but then I fell asleep. I hate when that happens. I've already done the totally vintage TV special and the Making the Trilogy featurette. Wildroot (talk) 01:55, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
Khaaaan!
editI got a hold of Beyond Uhura today off the interlibrary loan and was able to add a bit to the cast and film section, so aside from the one paper to bolster themes I think it's basically ready for FAC. If you could assist in the copyediting grind, I'd be grateful :) Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs (talk) 23:15, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
DYK for Sherlock Holmes (2009 film)
editBorgQueen (talk) 11:22, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
- Nice work! :) It's going to be interesting to see how Guy Ritchie does this. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 16:05, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
- I have to say that Downey does not look much like Sherlock there. :) I've always thought of Sherlock as long-nosed, having the pipe, and wearing visible tweed clothing. I'm not disappointed about Neil Marshall not taking on the project... too many have been announced under him for me to really build up hope. I think I am more following the dude and his films because he's a newcomer and information is easier to put together. It does make his biographical article pretty sparse, though. I can't imagine doing a biographical article on one of these oldtimers, like Spielberg or Paul Newman. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 21:13, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
Sherlock Holmes
editHey, I was just wondering why have you created that page when there was another title?. You could have have moved it from 2010 to 2009?. --SkyWalker (talk) 11:34, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
- Ah, I see. I thought the movie would be released on 2010. So i moved it there and few days later i saw you created anyother page so no worries :). Btw can you improve this article: Hellboy 2--SkyWalker (talk) 11:39, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
- Should i ask Erik and Steve to improve the article?. I have not seen the movie too. I wanted to watch The Dark Knight but was unable to because of my recent surgery. Can you help with this article too List of Chronicles of Narnia cast members. I wanted to create a table similar to List of Harry Potter cast members and iam not sure who is Narnia, Telmarines and other's and i have not read the book. I only watched the 1st film and waiting for dvd release of 2nd film. Can you guide me. So i can create a table?. --SkyWalker (talk) 11:56, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
- Anyidea when those two chaps are free?. You know them well more than i do. Thanks. We can help together and someday it can reach FA and when can we start?. Yea iam ok after the surgery. I had Spinal disc herniation. :). --SkyWalker (talk) 12:45, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
- Should i ask Erik and Steve to improve the article?. I have not seen the movie too. I wanted to watch The Dark Knight but was unable to because of my recent surgery. Can you help with this article too List of Chronicles of Narnia cast members. I wanted to create a table similar to List of Harry Potter cast members and iam not sure who is Narnia, Telmarines and other's and i have not read the book. I only watched the 1st film and waiting for dvd release of 2nd film. Can you guide me. So i can create a table?. --SkyWalker (talk) 11:56, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
Thanks
editHi, thanks for the welcome. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Abato piscorum (talk • contribs)
fun with wall-e
editregarding Talk:WALL-E#WALL-A_units_resemble_giant_WALL-E_units - It's all quite silly, really. If I'm wrong with my point, I trust you to tell me so. I believe I am correct, however, but seek your input/guidance. Thx. SpikeJones (talk) 20:16, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
Indiana Jones WikiProject Now Open!
editI have finally created a WikiProject for Indiana Jones! Check it out. -- MISTER ALCOHOL T C 21:21, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
Temple of Doom, remake of Gunga Din
editHave a look at Gunga Din. You're going to be in for the biggest shock of your life. --Wastetimer (talk) 01:55, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
Pirates
editYou mean in our (Wikipedia) many discussions about who was the largest budget? Um, it's probably either (or all) in the archives of List of most expensive films, Spider-Man 3, or either of the two Pirate film talk pages. I'll go check them to see if I can find it. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 13:40, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
- I've been searching through the archives of List of.., Spider-Man, both Pirates and Superman Returns...I cannot find that link anywhere. I've found conversations with people discussing the link, but I cannot find the original link anyway. It was like it never made it to the archives. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 14:22, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
Easter egg information is trivial at best. Nearly every DVD has some sort of easter egg as a bonus, and rarely are they important. The same goes for listing each and every extended and/or deleted scene. The information is relevant for a Lord of the Rings Wiki, but certainly not here. It's not important for understanding the main subject of the article. Wikipedia simply isn't the guide to list everything. I've started this discussion about the matter: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Films#Extended_scenes_and_deleted_scenes_being_listed_in_articles. RobJ1981 (talk) 23:47, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
Re: G.I. Joe
editIt sounds like an interesting tidbit, but I don't know if it needs to be in the article. If it is in the final product, then it can be covered in the Plot section. For all we know, that kind of background scene could end up on the cutting room floor. Maybe post the URL on the talk page to keep around... if the film is somehow different, citing that could be a good comparison of the evolution of the character in writing or how the film was ultimately edited. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 17:56, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
This IP has continually gone against your warnings with the adding of the day "may" to the Pirates of the Caribbean films article. After you gave him the "final warning", he went ahead and did it again, upon which I said an administrator would be contacted. Not sure if this is the right time to ask (if you think it's too early), so I'm leaving it to you ;) Thanks! BlackPearl14[talkies!•contribs!] 03:38, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
Star Wars I
editSince you're a Raiders maven, I would suspect you are familiar with other Lucas properties, specifically Star Wars. I'm having a "citation" issue with another editor over the question of whether it is clear and unambiguous that there are E.T.-like creatures visible in the Imperial Senate chamber in Phantom Menace. All I want to know is whether it's obvious, or whether it's subject to interpretation. As you are rather stringent on the issue of citations, I consider your opinion on the matter to be worthwhile. Thank you for your consideration. :) Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 03:56, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
- User:Erik was kind enough to jump on this one and find me some answers. You're off the hook! :) Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 05:05, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for your cleanup work on the citations. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 11:20, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
Iron Man
editI was just reading this news and iam shocked. :(. Rhodes fitted very well in the movies. --SkyWalker (talk) 15:32, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
Transformers marked revision
editHey there. Are you planning any weighty additions to the article in the next couple of days? If not, I'll go ahead and mark the latest revision for the 0.7 Core List. Let me know if you want me to hold off when I go through the others tonight. Steve T • C 15:36, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
Temple of Doom, remake of Gunga Din
editI don't understand this. Are you saying that you didn't know that Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom is a remake of Gunga Din?? Watch the Thuggi segments of Gunga Din and you'll immediately see what relevant is. Hang on to your seat while you do, though: since you somehow never knew about this but appear otherwise knowledgeable about (or at least interested in) the Indiana Jones series to some extent, the shock will be visceral. (Don't see it while standing up, in other words.) This has been written about all over the place from the day Temple of Doom was released (and freely acknowledged by Spielberg and Lucas all along), including Bogdanovich's profile of Cary Grant in Who the Hell's In It and any article of any depth about either Gunga Din or Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom, but it's so self-evident when you've seen both films that a citation for something so generally known and indisputably obvious seems silly, like insisting on a citation for saying that the sky is blue. Interestingly, Frank Sinatra and the Rat Pack also remade it in the early 60s as Sergeants Three, with Dean Martin in the Cary Grant/Harrison Ford role. ---Wastetimer (talk) 21:46, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
More Harrison Ford as Cary Grant
editThis is general knowledge, anything but a secret. I'm not familiar with the Rinzler book you mentioned but I would imagine that they didn't mention it because they assumed that practically anyone reading their book would already know it. Aside from the movie being a sequel to Raiders of the Lost Ark, it's the single most bedrock fact about Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom. --Wastetimer (talk) 22:01, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
Oh, I see, I misunderstood you all along, and I apologize for that. That's a rather literal-minded take, though. Perhaps I didn't phrase it with quite enough focus, however, I'd have to go back and look at exactly what I wrote. I didn't mean that Puri was cast purely (so to speak) because of his resemblance to Ciannelli, obviously Spielberg would choose someone also capable of acting the difficult role (and Puri was perfect!), but the fact that the two actors play essentially the same part and look practically identical can't be construed as a coincidence, so that observation wouldn't need a corroborating citation, at least in my view: Spielberg and Lucas incontrovertibly cast a lookalike as Mola Ram. I just looked Puri up and was saddened to see that he died three years ago. God, Temple of Doom is such a great movie. Oddly, the latest Indiana Jones movie has all the makings of greatness except that it doesn't feel right, it somehow looks like it was all shot on soundstages, even shots that I suppose couldn't have possibly been. I don't know exactly why. Was it because they tweaked the light and made it feel wrong, or used green screens for everything, or what? The set-ups and the acting are marvelous but it lacks that instant-classic feel as a result of what I'm talking about (although I do like it enormously and realized how good it is on my second viewing). It wouldn't have hurt to have had the Jones character wear his beard a little heavier, either. It's definitely a movie that merits repeat viewings. --Wastetimer (talk) 22:43, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
I'm looking at that essay you found now: the guy who wrote it sounds like a bit of a kook, actually, but it is interesting. Maybe the sheer galloping lack of political correctness in these films is part of the reason I like them so much. Spielberg conflated a number of weird practices around the world (the monkey brains as food in Asia; the Chinese custom of eating insects (also a staple in pre-tomato Italy); the ripping out of the hearts, performed upon hapless virgins by the Mayan priests in ancient Mexico with an obsidian knife, who then held up the beating heart exactly as in the film, etc.) but almost every bizarre custom in the movie occurred somewhere at some time on the planet, and it was thrilling to see so much Ripley's Believe-It-Or-Not craziness combined into one film. As for the essay, though, unless I missed it, I don't see a reference to Amrish Puri's casting in the film or his resemblance to Ciannelli, so I don't suppose this article is applicable as a reference in this case. --Wastetimer (talk) 23:36, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
Raiders of the Lost Ark and Secret of the Incas
editI just had my mind absolutely blown by something I read on the Indiana Jones site as a result of our correspondence, that Raiders of the Lost Ark was so similar to a Charlton Heston film called Secret of the Incas, which the entire crew watched repeatedly before filming Raiders. I went straight to youtube to find three clips (Secret of the Incas I, II, and III) and was absolutely bowled over by what I saw. Heston wears exactly same costume and growth of beard (except the hat brim is happily broader and worn appropriately cocked). A scene I'm looking at now involves a shaft of light in a tomb that was snatched outright for Raiders, and I haven't even seen the third clip yet: I'm almost afraid to look. Heston and the young Ford are so alike in so many ways that I'm stunned, I just never made the connection: everyone focused on Bogart in The Treasure of Sierra Madre when Raiders came out and I always thought that was wrong, the similarity was actually to John Wayne's Republic serials, but Secret of the Incas has dismantled my brain in thirty seconds regarding this topic. If you're unaware of this, go to youtube right now and have a look. See you there. --Wastetimer (talk) 00:20, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
Heston's great hat in Secret of the Incas makes Ford's in Raiders of the Lost Ark look like a beanie with a propeller on top in comparison. Plus Heston cocks it. --Wastetimer (talk) 00:43, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
AfD nomination of Fictional history of Spider-Man
editI have nominated Fictional history of Spider-Man, an article you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fictional history of Spider-Man (2nd nomination). Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. Cameron Scott (talk) 13:20, 16 October 2008 (UTC) Cameron Scott (talk) 13:20, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
A-class review of Batman (1989 film)
editYou can express your thoughts over there. I need positive feedback from 3 different editors to get that damn article passed off. Thanks. Wildroot (talk) 18:11, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
I just need approval from one more editor and the whole article gets to A-class. Thanks. Wildroot (talk) 16:25, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
Section length, Book titles, et al.
editHi. Can you read this section and then offer your opinion on the points raised, specifically the issue of titles in the FCB, length and detail of given sections, what constitutes “fannishness”, etc.? Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 14:59, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
Spider-Man
editHello,
Were you referring to what I just added to Spider-Man (film series) as vandelism? I'm new here, and still learning, but I don't see how it's vandalism to report what has just been announced on Yahoo! News from what should be a reputable source, which I documented. http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/spidermansequels_blog.html Crow, Jonathan, "Spider-Man Returns, But Will Dunst?" Yahoo! Movies, October 17, 2008
Thank you, Travis —Preceding unsigned comment added by Travis Harris (talk • contribs) 18:52, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
OIC
editOh, I see. Thanks for the clarifiction. I was getting my feelings a little hurt, hehe. What about the actual signing? I didn't notice that being in there. As far as I know, it was only announced today or very recently. (Travis Harris (talk) 19:00, 18 October 2008 (UTC))
You are correct :)
editYou are correct, and that's exactly what I said. I wrote:
As of October 2008, Sam Raimi and Tobey Maguire had announced a contract for a fourth and fifth installment of "Spider-Man," starring Maguire. So far there is no confirmation that Kirsten Dunst will reprise her role as Mary Jane Watson. However, the actress has reportedly made recent statements regarding her interest to continue with the series, which were positive. In an interview with MTV's Splashpage, Raimi stated, "I hope she'll be written into it. I couldn't imagine making one without her, and I think she's an important part of the movies."[1]
And here's those little tildes. :) (Travis Harris (talk) 19:13, 18 October 2008 (UTC))
OIC (again)
editOh sorry, I misread your reply. I see what your saying. But regarding the MacGuire's official signing, you don't object that being in there, do you? Because that's new info. It was only rumor as of September. Now it's official. (Travis Harris (talk) 19:21, 18 October 2008 (UTC))
the dark knight
editi didn't know i needed concensus. The article was rather long and wikipedia suggested it be split. - -The Spooky One (talk to me) 21:39, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
- When i go to edit it; it says: This page is 98 kilobytes long. It may be appropriate to split this article into smaller, more specific articles. See Wikipedia:Article size.
But now i realize that i should have discussed that on the talk page first... - -The Spooky One (talk to me) 21:42, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
More Mola Ram
editI just bumped across a perfect reference for the similarity between Mola Ram in Temple of Doom and the Guru in Gunga Din. In the website "TheRaider.net," there's an article called "Gunga Doom" in which stills from both movies are placed side by side, including comparative shots of Puri and Ciannelli, along with this paragraph of text: "The actual look of Mola Ram is remarkably similar to the character of the Guru, and understandably so. There is obvious and intentional continuity in the Thuggee leader of Mola Ram when compared to the Guru. Both are captivating, sage-like men with shaven heads and hypnotic eyes, accompanied by almost psychotic smiles. In the Guru’s ceremony, he tells the Thuggee of their common quest to rid the world of their detractors. Later in the film, as Cutter’s hostage, the Guru goes into a monologue in which he waxes poetic about his quest to conquer all India and the world. Mola Ram delivers a very similar speech to Indiana Jones as he tortures him and forces him to drink the Thuggee blood. He speaks of the Thuggee casting down the gods of other religions and turning the world to the Thuggee cult. This torture sequence exists in both films. Cutter and his friends are also taken by the Thuggee and tortured, though not to join the cult, but to divulge the location of the British Army. In both films, the hero is strapped to a post and flogged. The Thuggee also begin torturing the heroes’ friends, and both Cutter and Indy, despite their own pain, protest the beatings of their comrades." --Wastetimer (talk) 23:02, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
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Hey Alien, How is Mars?:). Does this movie exist has it been announced?. I could not find the reliable source should i submit this article for deletion?. Is this a reliable source?. Can you tell me what are sources are reliable when it comes to movies?. --SkyWalker (talk) 11:39, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
- Yup, I will go ahead and prod it. --SkyWalker (talk) 12:05, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
Heads up, I prod it but it was contested. So i sent it to afd see here.--SkyWalker (talk) 05:35, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
Watchmen updates
editI saw what the ending was. I don't know if I like it or not; I was used to the original ending and kind of anticipated the freaky nature of it for the film. The new one does sound as interesting, I guess, but it does make me wonder how much that affects the showdown between Rorschach and Dr. Manhattan. By the way, you updated a new poster image that seems stretched in the infobox; can you re-upload it with 300px as the minimum width? Also, any chance we can move the first teaser poster to the section about Moore and Gibbons? It seems to reflect Gibbons's support for the film. A little weak, but we can remove it later if it's an issue. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 17:02, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
- Wouldn't this do? —Erik (talk • contrib) - 17:19, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
- I can run it through GIMP to resize it. I have an interview in a half hour, though, so I can do it in a couple of hours. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 17:32, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
- I was going to remove the {{cn}} tag that Eupator just added, but I do agree with him about the lack of citation for DVD interspersion, as the relevant section does not mention anything about it. Since you've kept the article up to date, can you fix this for clarification? I'm about to upload a new image, BTW. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 20:35, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
- I can run it through GIMP to resize it. I have an interview in a half hour, though, so I can do it in a couple of hours. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 17:32, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
ORCI
edit- How do you know it's a site for Don murphy. It could have been created by anybody. Just because someone says there person doesn't mean it's them.annoynmous 00:01, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
- Also I remember what happened to me when I insisted William fichtner was in The Dark Knight and I was told it came from an unreliable source. I'm just asking what makes you certain this is Don Murphy's site.annoynmous 00:05, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
- I see now that the site does belong to don murphy. I'm sorry I acted hastily. The reason I brought up Fichtner was because even though I was proven right that he was in the movie, at the time I was told it couldn't be included because it came from an unreliable source. I'm just following the standard you guys set.annoynmous 00:12, 23 October 2008 (UTC
Kong - Epic
editWas there a discussion in which "Epic" was deemed a controversial term? --FilmFan69 (talk) 00:26, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
Quantum of Solace
editWho the hell do you think you are? Wikipedia is free to edit by anyone, so how can you 'ban me' for editing a page? I'm editing the page with accurate information on the gunbarrel 'opening' now being at the end of the film. I know this because I've seen it. When it opens on October 31 you'll feel a right diddy. Stop sending me threatening messages because I'm updating a page with relevant information. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fitzochris (talk • contribs) 14:08, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
- You can't find negative fan reaction to the moving of the gunbarrel? Look harder belfry. Check out commanderbon.net and ajb007.co.uk —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fitzochris (talk • contribs)
- Well then wait until the film comes out on October 31 and bloody well change it yourself. I was trying to be helpful and instead I get the wiki-police all over me. Unreal. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fitzochris (talk • contribs)
Any chance you can extend a better welcome mat? :-P —Erik (talk • contrib) - 15:36, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
Marketing
editI've started discussion about marketing at WT:MOSFILM#Proposed "Marketing" component. Since you have been pretty prolific with detailing contemporary films' marketing, can you weigh in at the discussion and see if there is anything that could be added or removed? —Erik (talk • contrib) 20:19, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
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- Quid pro quo. New editor tried to upload a 1,732 by 2,688 pixel image of the new teaser poster, I kid you not. —Erik (talk • contrib) 05:39, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
- Quid pro quo?. What is that Spanish?. Btw the template still exist. Should i removed it Erik or Alien?.--SkyWalker (talk) 13:35, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
- Quid pro quo is the article. :) Alien took care of an image warning on my user talk page, so I returned the favor. Quid pro quo! —Erik (talk • contrib) 14:50, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks. I have learned a lot. That is first time iam hearing that word. --SkyWalker (talk) 16:42, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
- ^ Crow, Jonathan, "Spider-Man Returns, But Will Dunst?" Yahoo! Movies, October 17, 2008