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File source and copyright licensing problem with File:Agnes Monica at 2004 AMI.jpg

File Copyright problem

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I have added the source of the image and its copyright status. I hope that's sufficient.Awriterwrites (talk) 04:48, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

I'm afraid not. There is no indication that anything on the site you quoted is licensed under {{FAL}}. In fact, there is no indication anythig on that site actually belongs to the site in the first place. It's just a blog that has itself grabbed images wildly from all over the place. Where did you get that "FAL" from? Did you just make it up? Please understand that the idea is not for you to invent a license under which to publish it. You must prove that the actual owner has explicitly published it in this way. And if they haven't, you simply must not upload the image. There's no way we can use it.

BTW, technically, if you want to modify an image description page, don't do it by going through the upload form again, because what you write there won't in fact end up on the page. Just click the "edit" button like on any other page to edit. Fut.Perf. ☼ 05:59, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for your explanation. Yes, it is a blog. But in the right upper corner, the owner mentioned, "Indonesian Heartthrob blog belongs to Furansizuka. Give me/this blog a credit if you copy/use the articles/pictures. myfreecopyright Reg: WBB88_B54F_C03BB." If this myfreecopyright is not considered as "FAL", could you explain what does it fall into and how I could use the picture. Awriterwrites (talk) 06:54, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Strange, I can't find that remark anywhere. But in any case, the "myfreecopyright" is not a license, it's just a registry for asserting copyright. I now notice he does have a "CC" license at the bottom of his page, but it's the "noncommercial–no derivatives" version, so it wouldn't be free enough for us. And even if it were, there's still the fact that it's almost 100% certain he doesn't own the images in the first place.

I can't prove that the image is his, and I'm considering to change it with a picture from kapanlagi.com. Would it be okay to upload the pic in wikipedia if I got the permission from the website? Awriterwrites (talk) 09:05, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of File:Agnes at AMI 2004.jpg

A tag has been placed on File:Agnes at AMI 2004.jpg requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section F9 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the image appears to be a blatant copyright infringement. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted images or text borrowed from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted.

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Speedy deletion has been contested. Declaration of consent has been sent to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org. I'm not sure if I'm missing any steps here. Awriterwrites (talk) 15:47, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

That's ok. Someone with otrs access will review the permission and fix the tag. Thanks, --damiens.rf 17:16, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Re: Agnes Monica

Do you speak in Bahasa? Well, this is my response:

• You say that Chinese ancestry isn't relevant to this article.

Maksud saya tidak relevan untuk paragraf pembuka, tapi sebenarnya bisa ditambahkan di bagian "Childhood and early career". Sebagai contoh lihat artikel Madonna, seorang Italia-Amerika tapi di paragraf pembuka sama sekali tidak menyinggung hal ini. Terlebih lagi, selama ini Agnes tidak pernah terlalu 'make a big deal' dengan etnis-nya, jadi kenapa harus ngotot ditaruh di kalimat pembuka.

• You ask why few sentences were removed in the second paragraph.

Terlalu detil kok, apalagi sampai nyinggung-nyinggung 'controversial', serius? Penyebutan 'the chairman of Korea Foundation for International Culture and Exchange' juga tidak penting. Paragraf kedua nggak harus soal go international kok, kita di sini bicara soal proses perjalanan seorang Agnes. Sacredly Agnezious perlu disebut karena di album ini Agnes pertama kalinya berkreatifitas sebagai produser dan penulis lagu. Trus kenapa soal juri Indonesian Idol juga dihapus, Agnes udah dua season nongol di depan TV lho, jadi layak diikut sertakan di sini.

Sekali lagi, intinya di pararaf pembuka jangan ada penjelasan yang tidak terlalu penting. Sebagai acuan lihat artikel Agnes Monica di Wikipedia bahasa Indonesia, yang sudah saya kembangkan dari tulisan rintisan sampai jadi artikel pilihan. Saya pingin lihat artikel Agnes Monica di Wikipedia bahasa Inggris lebih rapi, soalnya dalam waktu dekat ini orang-orang luar bakal sering nyari2 informasi soal Agnes. Begitu menurut saya, Salam :)) Bluesatellite (talk) 11:52, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

The lead section in most Wikipedia's biography articles doesn't always have to write in "Main idea and supporting sentences" concept. We should write the paragraph chronologically, because lead section summarize the whole article. Well, I'd love to make it a FA, but FA nomination here is much much harder than in Wikipedia bahasa Indonesia :( Bluesatellite (talk) 12:55, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Again, Lead section doesn't always have to write in with main idea, but should summarize the whole article. We do not need to emphasize about her dream of international-career. Being a judge and a producer are important, because they are part of her artistic development. And about 'Discography', in many interviews, Agnes has always considered And the Story Goes as her first and Sacredly Agnezious her third studio album (her official website even does not mention her kid albums). The Kid albums, mini albums, and compilations go to 'Other albums'. Bluesatellite (talk) 13:23, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

In second paragraph we talk all about her career as an adult singer in Indonesia (from And the Story Goes to Sacredly Agnezious). Maybe in future, we expand the next paragraph about her career as an international singer (I hope). Again and again, lead section doesn't always have to write in with main idea, look at Lady Gaga, Britney Spears, etc. Bluesatellite (talk) 13:46, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Controversy? Seriously, I don't ever think proclaiming to go international is a "controversial thing" as you insist. It is no no no more important than the rest of her life and career. This is the last time I explain to you. Agnes Monica is a biography article, of course its lead section must summarize her whole life. Current lede has been balance because it describes every notable aspect of her life and career so far, not just emphasize her fans' point of view about going international. I hope you understand Bluesatellite (talk) 11:33, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

It looks fine to me :) Bluesatellite (talk) 09:35, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

GA nom for Agnes Monica

Good luck! We need more GAs on Indonesian celebrities (I'm waiting on one myself at the moment) Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:08, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

Thank you. Good luck to you too :) Awriterwrites (talk) 15:07, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

• I've reviewed the nomination and there is quite a bit of work to do. As a side note, you seem to have good luck with KapanLagi.com. Could you get them to release a couple pictures of Gita Gutawa, Melly Goeslaw, and Chrisye if possible? Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:09, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

• Thank you for your review, but I'm not sure if I can fix all of them in just 7 days :( I just moved in to a new flat and have no internet connection until Dec 11. I'm using the internet at my office now, so I have limited time to edit the article. Is it possible to extend it to another 7 days (after I have my internet connection at home)?

• Have you tried asking the pictures from KapanLagi.com? How did it go? I can ask them for you, but I need the links of the pictures that you want. You can find the pictures in KapanLagi.com picture gallery. If they don't have the pictures, they won't be able to release them.

• I just tried. Okay, I'll try and do some of it for you. (I said two weeks, btw... LOL) Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:38, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Hi Crisco 1492, could you comment on my concern about Agnes Monica's surname on the article's talk page? It's true that some Indonesian names don't have family names, but Agnes comes from Chinese background. Most Chinese Indonesian families have converted their names to Indonesian names, but still include their family names in their last names. It is shown in the pattern of her family names. Ricky Muljoto is her father's name, Steve Muljoto is her brother's name, and her full name is Agnes Monica Muljoto. I'm not sure how I should refer to her in the article, so I just simply use her first name, as her surname is never used in the media. Awriterwrites (talk) 03:47, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

• As I noted on the talk page, I think we should go with Agnes as that is how she is most commonly referred to in the English-speaking media. Regarding KapanLagi.com, I received the form letter saying that they have received my request. Don't know if anything will happen with it. I was looking at these four images: 18th birthday, really nice picture of her, another nice one with a black background, and at the launching of Balada Shalawat. Personally, I prefer either the second or third picture, but the Balada Shalawat one would go really good in our article on the album and would look nice in the infobox too. Of course, if they have pictures of her receiving an AMI.... Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:28, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

• If you haven't checked out the picture gallery, it is here: galeri foto. When I asked Agnes' pictures to KapanLagi.com, the Editor in Chief contacted me the next day. She likes Wikipedia and seems very willing to help Wikipedia editors. If you have given them the procedures of how to release the pictures, I think there shouldn't be any problem of getting the permission from them. Let me know how it comes out, I can contact her if you don't receive any reply from them after few days :) Awriterwrites (talk) 06:59, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

• I got the Balada Salawat picture from there. I will see if she replies... don't know if she will. Side note: this would be good for both Gita and Erwin's articles. Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:15, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Although if she granted us permission to use one of these three pictures, I think we could have a featured picture of Gutawa... Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:49, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

I have edited what you have highlighted on AG's GA review. Awriterwrites (talk) 10:53, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

• K, I'll take a look as soon as I can. I have an essay to write for class. Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:05, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

• K, commented there. Coming around nicely. Your dead links can be seen here. Still waiting on KapanLagi.com, sadly; at least Gita Gutawa has been passed already. Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:07, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

• Congratulations on passing the article :)
• I will contact KapanLagi.com about the pictures. I will ask the permission for her profile picture (it seems to be the best picture on your list, IMO). However, the picture for Balada Salawat album seems similar with what has already been included in Balada Shalawat article. What do you want to use the picture for? I need a justification to explain to them :)
• If you change your mind or I miss picture(s) that I have to ask, please let me know. I want to ask the permission in one go.
• Btw, I have added more comments on AG's GA review. Could you also look at my comment about "University of Pelita Harapan" in the "prose issues" section.

Awriterwrites (talk) 02:36, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

• The one in Balada Shalawat right now is the album cover; if we had a free picture from the press conference, it could go in the proper section of the main article. If they allow it, this would be nice for the Awards section and this would be nice to show her with Erwin (at the top of the biography section). I will get to Agnes in a minute. Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:50, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

• I have sent an email about Gita Gutawa's pictures. I'll let you know after I receive a reply. Let's hope there will be some pictures released :) Awriterwrites (talk) 04:21, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

• Fingers crossed. I've replied at GA1, btw. Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:25, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

Hi Crisco 1492, have you looked at my comments on "prose issues" section? Should we stick to University of Pelita Harapan, or change it either to Pelita Harapan University or Universitas Pelita Harapan. Btw, I have left some comments too on the GA review section. Awriterwrites (talk) 08:28, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

• I'd go with Pelita Harapan University. For the GA icons, I will give it another two hours and then change it myself. I think it's supposed to be automatic. Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:20, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

• Any news? Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:55, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

• No reply until now. I think I have run out of luck with KapanLagi.com :( Awriterwrites (talk) 13:08, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

• Man, if I lived in Jakarta this would be much easier. Oh well, I have another article that I'm working on ATM. Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:20, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

Waddup

	GA?
	Congratulations on bringing Agnes Monica to GA status! She's one of Indonesia's biggest stars right now, so it's only right that she should have a good article. Kira-kira sebentar lagi dia bisa menemukan mataharinya. Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:56, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

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List of awards and nominations received by Agnes Monica ‎

Hello,

you never pasted this nomination page on WP:FLC, meaning that nobody reviewed it for months... Do you want it to be nominated correctly, or will you still work on it? On a quick glance there are several issues which are betterd fixed before the nomination. Regards.--Kürbis (✔) 08:29, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Asian 10,000 Challenge invite

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