Bcorin12

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October 2017

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to violate Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy by adding commentary and your personal analysis into articles, as you did at Stephen Starr, you may be blocked from editing. JesseRafe (talk) 15:32, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Hello JesseRafe (talk) Thank you for letting me know that I am not editing the Stephen Starr article properly. I can confirm that I am not affiliated with the Stephen Starr or his organization, and I do not work in the restaurant industry. I am an art researcher. I was curious about editing a Wikipedia article because I have seen errors in past articles and have not corrected them because I was intimidated by the system. I saw the message on Stephen Starr about improvements so I decided to start with that article. Is it possible that you could help me learn, and help me improve the article? I did a lot of primary-source research and I thought I fixed most of the issues with the article. I made sure to cite everything with what I thought was a credible source. I was proud of my work! And then I was sad to see that it was reversed. You are a seasoned Wikipedia-er. Would you please help me get the hang of things? I am an art researcher and I want to edit more articles in the future, but not if I am violating community standards. Thank you so much in advance. Bcorin12 (talk) 17:35, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Hi, and thank you for asking instead of simply reverting again. A better place for discussion would be on the article's talk page. One issue is now easily solved, the page for Starr Restaurants has been moved and renamed to STARR Restaurants and I changed all the linked articles. The Stephen Starr page has already been targetted by users seemingly adding intricate detail and incorporating PR-flak type praise and adjectives that are not encyclopedic, other edits have been removing personal information -- even when cited and otherwise readily available having been published online -- both of these types of edits suggest an affiliation with the subject of the article. As to your edits in particular, they included stuff like direct quotes about wanting to be a DJ and other things I'd consider fluff at best or an attempt to make this into a personal website not an encyclopedia article. Even the language surrounding neutral fact-reporting "when he was just 21 years old" for example is inappropriate -- unless he was notable FOR being young, such as a 15-year-old college graduate etc. I also (and the MOS) consider things like "orchestrating memorable shows from the likes of" and "Continental was a trailblazer in Old City’s renaissance: ten years ago, the neighborhood was not the hotbed of Philadelphia nightlife that is today. Continental’s early success catalyzed the vibrancy of the area." and "His restaurant empire has now stretched to two continents, although it already spans the globe in terms of cuisines" inappropriate. Taken in sum, your edits read like a press junket and not like an encyclopedia entry and as such were wholesale reverted. The fact that you have no other edits made you a "Single-purpose account" and SPAs are always inherently suspicious and usually have a Conflict of Interest (COI) in the article's subject. Please read the links I left you after your very first edits, where I assumed you were editing in good faith. Ignoring those useful "getting started" welcome links and just reverting back to your version which my edit summary said was problematic was a sign of bad faith and I then warned you over the seeming COI issues you might be facing. JesseRafe (talk) 19:08, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Hi JesseRafe thank you very much for taking the time to help me learn how to edit in line with the standards of Wikipedia. I am reviewing the version of the article I wrote originally and it is clear how inappropriate my edits are. I will refer to the links you shared with me after my first edits for additional guidance. Hopefully I can get the hang of this. Thank you :) 67.86.30.133 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 03:15, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

No problem, please do stick around and find a few other articles to contribute to as well, and when in doubt there's plenty of resources to guide you and even a help desk which some seasoned editors watch to provide quick responses to queries. Also, the policy is WP:BRD which means make your bold edit first, and then if anyone else in the community sees it as problematic, they revert it, and if you have a problem with that everyone then discusses it. Don't forget to stat signed-in and sign your edits with four tildes, ~~~~. Cheers, JesseRafe (talk) 13:38, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

Managing a conflict of interest

Hello, Bcorin12. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places, or things you have written about in the article Stephen Starr, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a COI may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic, and it is important when editing Wikipedia articles that such connections be completely transparent. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. In particular, we ask that you please:

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Please take a few moments to read and review Wikipedia's policies regarding conflicts of interest, especially those pertaining to neutral point of view, sourcing and autobiographies.

Also please note that editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. You mention in an edit summary you edit on behalf of an organization. What organization? Please declare if you are a paid editor or you have any affiliation with Stephen Starr or the restaurant chain he owns. JesseRafe (talk) 15:59, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Hello JesseRafe I am not affiliated with the Stephen Starr Organization. Based on the information listed on both the company's LinkedIn page and their website, the article Stephen Starr listed the company name incorrectly. I changed the company name. Please let me know if there is a better way that I could have done this! I am new to this and am trying to learn. Bcorin12 (talk) 17:42, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Good work!

Thanks for taking the time on the Starr articles, looks pretty good! I hope you expand your interests and explore the encyclopedia, it's easy to find other places that need some TLC and the more you read the more you get a feel for what the standards and norms are. Cheers, JesseRafe (talk) 17:27, 6 November 2017 (UTC)

Thank you JesseRafe this encouragement made my day. Over the past month, I have been reading more community standards and article guidelines, and after consideration, I believe page Stephen Starr would better serve the community if it were moved and redirected to a sub-topic of Starr Restaurants. Stephen Starr is only famous for one thing, Starr Restaurants, and now that I've got a better grasp of Wikipedia, the article about him reads like Puffery. What do you think? Thank you! :) Bcorin12 (talk) 23:47, 26 December 2017 (UTC)

You're very welcome! That's your call if you want to propose a merge. I think two articles is fine, who knows what direction the individual and the company could go in at any moment? In any case, I'd be more inclined to think the main article should be the person, not his company, as I think he is more notable than his company. JesseRafe (talk) 15:05, 27 December 2017 (UTC)