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Removal of information
Why are you removing information that has source of reference?. 1keyhole (talk) 11:34, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
- Ossy, I thought that was clear by the edit summaries. If you are interpreting sources to come up with a new conclusion not contined in either, you are performing original research. So when you wrote "What's notable about the article is that it emphasizes that CEDU was not working with addicts or delinquents" you are editorialising, especially given that the article did not emphasis that at all. In regard to the second claim, "The original CEDU program did not believe in the use of medicine.", I could find no mention in the source of "medicine", nor a claim that they didn't belive in it. - Bilby (talk) 12:37, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
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Hello, Bilby,
Thank you so much for fixing this article. I don't know how I missed that it was a 20 year old article and shouldn't be moved to Draft space. I just looked at state of the article and it looked like so many of the recent student projects that are getting put prematurely into main space at this time of the school year. Thank you for correcting my error. It's appreciated! Liz Read! Talk! 04:16, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
- No worries! I have it on my watchlist and thought we had a difficult set of circumstances - a student project that broke the article, coupled with an unnecessary page move, with some text that just didn't hang together. I absoltutely understood where you were comming from, but thought that reverting the student changes with a page move would solve the problem. If it wasn't a topic I was very familiar with I would probably have gone the same way. So all is good!
- Just as a matter of odd coincidences, I was going over a lecture I'm supposed to give tomorrow and saw that it started with TAM, so strangely this all works together. :) - Bilby (talk) 14:22, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – May 2023
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- A request for comment about removing administrative privileges in specified situations is open for feedback.
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- The proposed decision in the World War II and the history of Jews in Poland case is expected 11 May 2023.
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Happy Adminship Anniversary!
Happy Adminship Anniversary!
 | Happy adminship anniversary! Hi Bilby! On behalf of the Birthday Committee, I'd like to wish you a very happy anniversary of your successful request for adminship. Enjoy this special day! Dinoz1 (chat?) (he/him) 15:24, 1 June 2023 (UTC) |  |
Dinoz1 (chat?) (he/him) 15:24, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
Olya Zueva
Hello there, and happy adminship anniversary! Since a template was put by you on the respective page saying it might have been created against undisclosed payments, I am afraid if if my account is at risk. MrAnmol (talk) 17:28, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
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Unblock request of Reunited7777
I'm reviewing an unblock request for this editor. It looks like they were blocked for socking, but I don't see any record of them at SPI or who the master is in the block log, and I'm not immediately familiar with the sockmaster. Could you clarify who you blocked them as a sock of? Seraphimblade Talk to me 20:18, 15 June 2023 (UTC)
- Hi! Sorry, I should have added the SP tag - I'll fix that. The suspected master is User:Expertwikiguy, SPI [1]. Blocked on behavioural evidence, but you can see the standard paid editor model that the user employs: one edit to the user page with something innoculous to stop it being a redlink; edit in general for a short while to avoid looking like an SPA, then create the paid article in mainspace. - Bilby (talk) 23:54, 15 June 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks, definitely lines up once I know that. Seraphimblade Talk to me 00:51, 16 June 2023 (UTC)
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Professor article
For Hans Bosse, I'm surprised that a dead social sciences researcher could be paid content. What's the evidence that it was paid?
I think we can try to clean it up if that's really the case.
He recently died, and it was pretty big news for ethnologists/anthropologists working in certain areas of social psychology. Noelicneon (talk) 23:10, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
- It can only be cleaned up by someone independent of the subject, otherwise it simply compunds the issue. - Bilby (talk) 23:12, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
- I'm independent of the subject, but you seem to think that whoever created it probably isn't. I don't know who created it, and I have just asked him to address these issues. How did you figure out that the article creator got paid for it? Social sciences researchers, to be frank, are generally not known for being rich people who can afford to throw money at self-promotional pages. Noelicneon (talk) 23:17, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
- Per WP:Beans I think it best that I don’t go into details, but I’ll pass it on to a functionary if need be. It may well be worth an SPI. - Bilby (talk) 00:49, 16 July 2023 (UTC)
- I'm independent of the subject, but you seem to think that whoever created it probably isn't. I don't know who created it, and I have just asked him to address these issues. How did you figure out that the article creator got paid for it? Social sciences researchers, to be frank, are generally not known for being rich people who can afford to throw money at self-promotional pages. Noelicneon (talk) 23:17, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
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Speedy deletion nomination of Stoked On Fishing
Hello Bilby,
I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Stoked On Fishing for deletion, because it's a redirect from an article title to a namespace that's not for articles.
If you don't want Stoked On Fishing to be deleted, you can contest this deletion, but don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.
You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Thanks!
Message delivered via the Page Curation tool, on behalf of the reviewer.
CS1 error on CEDU
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Contemporary fantasy
Hi, you reverted my edit on this page. If you'd like to discuss the page, please could you do so at Talk:Contemporary fantasy. Looking forward to hearing from you. CohenTheBohemian (talk) 16:18, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
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Nomination of Contemporary fantasy for deletion
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Hi, you reverted an edit of mine that I had done as requested by an editor on the article talk page. Your edit summary was "needs to be added by someone independent of the subject". Was that aimed at me or at the editor who had made the request? Equine-man (talk) 18:53, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
- Hi! That was aimed at you - because of the ongoing issue with paid editors on that page, the text should really be added by someone independent. - Bilby (talk) 18:55, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
- Erm, I’m not paid, wish I was I’d be rich. I saw the edit request and checked the link and the edit request looked like what was said in the reference, I don’t understand the sport, so if the edit request was not in line with the reference or sourced properly, let me know. Equine-man (talk) 01:34, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
- Sorry, but I've been provided with evidence to the contrary. - Bilby (talk) 02:07, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
- Good. I don't like paid editors. I should have checked page history before doing an edit. Thanks for reverting. Equine-man (talk) 09:12, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
- Sorry, but I've been provided with evidence to the contrary. - Bilby (talk) 02:07, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
- Erm, I’m not paid, wish I was I’d be rich. I saw the edit request and checked the link and the edit request looked like what was said in the reference, I don’t understand the sport, so if the edit request was not in line with the reference or sourced properly, let me know. Equine-man (talk) 01:34, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
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Placement of COI banners on articles
Moved from Talk:Edward Forman § Paid editing- @Bilby:, I do appreciate your message on my Talk page, as well as what you're trying to do. However, you simply cannot place that tag unilaterally with no evidence, especially when it amounts to an unsupported accusation against an editor and appears to be an assumption of bad faith. Your allegations so far are just that—allegations made by you, and nothing else. Please self-revert and remove this tag, or else provide specific evidence for it. Please do not ignore this message. Mathglot (talk) 22:53, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
- I'm a bit lost as to what you expect. There is a clear ad to edit this article on upwork; a contractor was hired to edit the article; that contractor was paid for their edits to this article; and a known and admitted paid editor was the only editor who made changes to the article from the time the ad was placed and the contractor was paid. It seems pretty clear to me. - Bilby (talk) 23:03, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
- Not sure if you're giving me the runaround, or what. I expect you to place your evidence here, directly under this comment. I plan to take you to a noticeboard if you fail to remove the banner without providing evidence. The safe route is to just remove it for now, add your evidence, and then gain consensus for it. Mathglot (talk) 07:23, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
- This isn't a matter of saying that the article was edited by a paid editor - the tag only says that there is reasonable suspicion of such. I have reasonable supicion of such. But I'll address this another way. I'll see what the edtor has to say, and based on that I'll take it to the next step - the obvious next step is a link to the job ad, although I don't like doing that due to a risk of outing, but that is better done at COIN than here. - Bilby (talk) 07:29, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
- I've raised the issue at WP:COIN#Edward Forman. - Bilby (talk) 11:01, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
- This is not even a living person, not sure where the COI comes from. I have been reading George Pendle’s Strange Angel and all my edit is based on that (Parsons and Malina pages were more complete, I started with Forman). And I believe I made some improvement, although I am still working on his works after the GALCIT period. Sabih omar 14:20, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
- COIN is a good start; to avoid outing, you can email any admin by using the email link in the tools in the left sidebar (legacy 2010 editor); not sure where the link is in the current editor. Mathglot (talk) 16:57, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
- I think I see the key point to this disagreement: we are arguing at cross-purposes. The nucleus of it is here:
the tag only says that there is reasonable suspicion of such. I have reasonable supicion of such.
- You are arguing about whether there is paid editing, but I'm not. I am arguing whether you have the right to unilaterally place a banner of this nature, without consensus. To me, you may be right about the paid editing, or you may be wrong, but that is beside the point. You, as an individual editor, have no right to place a banner on an article visible to everyone on the internet, based on your sole suspicion about some other editor; that is a complete no-go. That tag implies that *there is a consensus* at Wikipedia that there is paid editing on the article, not that one editor among 140,000 a active editors suspects that there is. That goes double, when some other editor has expressed their reservations by removing the tag, and you've doubled down and tripled down to reinsert it, in the face of opposition. In my opinion, you are in violation of several policies consensus and AGF prime among them, and while the discussion here or at COIN is going on, you should observe policy and remove the banner. It's fine to put it back afterward, if that's what the consensus is. Mathglot (talk) 17:12, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
- Not sure if you're giving me the runaround, or what. I expect you to place your evidence here, directly under this comment. I plan to take you to a noticeboard if you fail to remove the banner without providing evidence. The safe route is to just remove it for now, add your evidence, and then gain consensus for it. Mathglot (talk) 07:23, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
- I'm a bit lost as to what you expect. There is a clear ad to edit this article on upwork; a contractor was hired to edit the article; that contractor was paid for their edits to this article; and a known and admitted paid editor was the only editor who made changes to the article from the time the ad was placed and the contractor was paid. It seems pretty clear to me. - Bilby (talk) 23:03, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
I realized that the discussion formerly at Talk:Edward Forman wasn't really appropriate at that venue, as it is a behavior/policy issue about placement of banners, and not really anything to do with improving the article itself; hence, it belongs here, and not on the article Talk page. Apologies for the wrong venue. As far as your issue, concerning the COIN discussion, I'll monitor it with interest. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 19:25, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
- Just noticed your comment at WP:COIN that you are an admin. That raised an eyebrow; per WP:ADMINCOND, you are held to a higher standard. How is triply inserting a template on an article page in the face of two reverts and Talk page opposition commensurate with that? Maybe there's something deep down in some guideline that gives admins wider latitude in placing templates of this sort; if so, please drop a link, and I'll stop bothering you. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 20:03, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
- Looks like the COIN issue is settled, due to Sabih's disclosure at the noticeboard. Afaic, that settles it: the banner stays, and I'm happy to move on. Cheers, Mathglot (talk) 02:29, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
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- An RfC is open regarding amending the paid-contribution disclosure policy to add the following text:
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- Administrators can now choose to add the user's user page to their watchlist when changing the usergroups for a user. This works both via Special:UserRights and via the API. (T272294)
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- The 2023 CheckUser and Oversight appointments process has concluded with the appointment of one new CheckUser.
- Self-nominations for the electoral commission for the 2023 Arbitration Committee elections opens on 2 October and closes on 8 October.
Conektr Tech
Hello dear Bilby, I came across with a tag of undisclosed payment in one of the articles I created which is totally against the truth. I kindly ask you to review my previous contributions before claiming this! Thanks in advance! Worldviewfrom (talk) 10:46, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
- Hi! Yes, I have done so, which is why it has been tageed. - Bilby (talk) 10:52, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
Draft: Together Price
Hi @Bilby! I noticed that you recently deleted Draft:Together Price, and I understand that it was due to my failure to comply with the necessary actions. I have already disclosed it on my user page using the PAID template. I've been away for a few weeks and just returned, so I wasn't able to disclose it sooner. I though that after submission, it would take four months for a review and didn't check afterward. I sincerely apologize for this. I'm hoping you could assist me in recovering the draft since I would like to work on it further. If it is not possible, could I still recreate the same page using AfC? Moving forward, I will ensure to disclose any paid contributions. Thank you for your understanding, and I look forward to your response.~~~~ Sydneycindy (talk) 08:03, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
- Sorry, I stuffed up. I meant to block your account at the same time, but it looks like that didn't go through. I'll take care of it now. - Bilby (talk) 08:30, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
This Month in Education: September 2023
This Month in Education
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- Inauguration of the Kent Wiki Club at the Wikimania 2023 Conference
- Letter Magic: Supercharging Your WikiEducation Programs
- Réseau @pprendre (Learning Network) : The Initiative for Educational Change in Francophone West Africa
- WikiChallenge Ecoles d’Afrique closes its 5th edition with 13 winning schools
- WikiConecta: connecting Brazilian university professors and Wikimedia
- Wikimedia Germany launches interactive event series Open Source AI in Education
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- News and notes: Where have all the administrators gone?
- In the media: Thirst traps, the fastest loading sites on the web, and the original collaborative writing
- Gallery: Before and After: Why you don't need to know how to restore images to make massive improvements
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Ad verecundiam fallacy
Hello. Why do you keep deleting my changes? My version might not be perfect but it certainly is 1000 times better than the current one since at least it is truthful. You haven't fixed the article that states lies in months, and seem to defend it from saying the truth whenerver I try. Feel free to add sources; but only the last section I added is "uncited", since I could only cite examples. Besides, citebombing is useless and stupid. Adding multiple citations from cringe sources such as philosophy.org or something like that can never be better than quoting Locke. My article is definitely not "completely unsourced" at all; I just didn't abuse of it like the previous version that has 5 citations on each word.
Whatever change is for better should be kept even if it momentarily lacks of citations. Adolphitus (talk) 15:44, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
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- Arbitration report: Admin bewilderingly unmasks self as sockpuppet of other admin who was extremely banned in 2015
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Administrators' newsletter – November 2023
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- The WMF is working on making it possible for administrators to edit MediaWiki configuration directly. This is similar to previous work on Special:EditGrowthConfig. A technical RfC is running until November 08, where you can provide feedback.
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Arbitration
- Eligible editors are invited to self-nominate themselves from 12 November 2023 until 21 November 2023 to stand in the 2023 Arbitration Committee elections.
- Xaosflux, RoySmith and Cyberpower678 have been appointed to the Electoral Commission for the 2023 Arbitration Committee Elections. BusterD is the reserve commissioner.
- Following a motion, the contentious topic designation of Prem Rawat has been struck. Actions previously taken using this contentious topic designation are still in force.
- Following several motions, multiple topic areas are no longer designated as a contentious topic. These contentious topic designations were from the Editor conduct in e-cigs articles, Liancourt Rocks, Longevity, Medicine, September 11 conspiracy theories, and Shakespeare authorship question cases.
- Following a motion, remedies 3.1 (All related articles under 1RR whenever the dispute over naming is concerned), 6 (Stalemate resolution) and 30 (Administrative supervision) of the Macedonia 2 case have been rescinded.
- Following a motion, remedy 6 (One-revert rule) of the The Troubles case has been amended.
- An arbitration case named Industrial agriculture has been opened. Evidence submissions in this case close 8 November.
Miscellaneous
- The Articles for Creation backlog drive is happening in November 2023, with 700+ drafts pending reviews for in the last 4 months or so. In addition to the AfC participants, all administrators and New Page Patrollers can conduct reviews using the helper script, Yet Another AFC Helper Script, which can be enabled in the Gadgets settings. Sign up here to participate!
This Month in Education: October 2023
This Month in Education
Volume 12 • Issue 8 • October 2023
- 3 Generations at Wikipedia Education Program in Türkiye
- CBSUA Launches Wiki Education in Partnership with PhilWiki Community and Bikol Wikipedia Community
- Celebrating Wikidata’s Birthday in Elbasan
- Edu Wiki Camp 2023 - together in Sremski Karlovci
- PhilWiki Community promotes language preservation and cultural heritage advocacies at ADNU
- PunjabWiki Education Program: A Wikipedia Adventure in Punjab
- WikiConference on Education ignites formation of Wikimedia communities
- Wikimedia Estonia talked about education at CEE meeting in Tbilisi
- Wikimedia in Brazil is going to be a book
- Wikipedian Editor Project: Arabic Sounds Workshop 2023
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- In the media: Propaganda and photos, lunatics and a lunar backup
- News and notes: Update on Wikimedia's financial health
- Traffic report: If it bleeds, it leads
- Recent research: Canceling disputes as the real function of ArbCom
- Wikimania: Wikimania 2024 scholarships
Suspected sock puppet and COI complaint
Hi, I am complaining about the freelancer continuously publishing spams in return of payments. She is from Dubai and below is her Upwork profile where you can find the evidence:
https://www.upwork.com/freelancers/~01bfb4d3cfe85e7304
Below are the pages, she published in return of payments:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transkriptor
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linda_Penn
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webz.io
Also, you can see the feedback on her profile which means she is continuously violating Wikipedia TOS. Also, she is created many accounts for publishing spams. 39.48.3.223 (talk) 21:28, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
- @JJMC89, Girth Summit, and MER-C: (as others left messages by the IP). I've looked over the recent jobs by this user but I don't see anything that can links them to these jobs. Agree that they smell of UPE however! SmartSE (talk) 22:01, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
- I can confirm Transkriptor, as I was able to identify the job. I'd also add Draft:Simon Gillett to the list. I cannot confirm either Linda Penn nor Webz.io, but they don't seem impossible. I guess I should pass this on to en-paid. - Bilby (talk) 09:39, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
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About suspicious accounts
Regarding the account you've been asking about paid contributions, I had already come close to blocking it as a duck before the explicit claim that it is the only account of that editor, per the suspicious overlap in the history at Tom Malloy and at the deleted history of Jonathan Melton. In the case of Tom Malloy, the currently active account added a headshot and apparently also e-mailed VRT about it after the previous editor added a since-deleted headshot. There is also overlap in the style of talk page messages (grammatically rare use of the word "detail" in several instances). This could be taken to SPI if necessary or to look for sleepers, but I think it could also just be acted upon if you see the same things I see.
I was also bemused by the characterization of Quentin Bryce as uncited and of questionable notability.... Dekimasuよ! 13:21, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
- Cf. this and this with the two accounts editing in succession, which I only discovered after writing the previous message. Dekimasuよ! 13:24, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
- They also overlap on multiple pages with [2], already blocked for undisclosed paid editing. Dekimasuよ! 13:33, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
- I missed that you had added Leojuan, but I came across them independently, so that does seem likely if we both came to the same conclusion. I have a couple more acounts I could add, one of which I am certain of. I passed on the two accounts that I knew of to paid-en, so at this stage I think it might be best to sit on it, and then add any they might miss. The problem is that they seem backlogged, so I don't know how long until they are able to get to it. To be clear, though, I have no doubt about the UPE, and I think we can now add at least 4 socks to the list. - Bilby (talk) 09:20, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
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Administrators' newsletter – December 2023
News and updates for administrators from the past month (November 2023).
Administrator changes
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- Following a talk page discussion, the Administrators' accountability policy has been updated to note that while it is considered best practice for administrators to have notifications (pings) enabled, this is not mandatory. Administrators who do not use notifications are now strongly encouraged to indicate this on their user page.
Arbitration
- Following a motion, the Extended Confirmed Restriction has been amended, removing the allowance for non-extended-confirmed editors to post constructive comments on the "Talk:" namespace. Now, non-extended-confirmed editors may use the "Talk:" namespace solely to make edit requests related to articles within the topic area, provided that their actions are not disruptive.
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This Month in Education: November 2023
This Month in Education
Volume 12 • Issue 9 • November 2023
- 4th WikiUNAM Editathon: Community knowledge strengthens education
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- EduWiki Nigeria Community: Embracing Digital Learning Through Wikipedia
- Evening Wikischool offers Czech seniors further education on Wikipedia
- Expansion of Wikipedia Education Program through Student Associations at Iranian Universities
- Exploring Wikipedia through Wikiclubs and the Wikeys board game in Albania
- First anniversary of the game Wikeys
- Involve visiting students in education programs
- Iranian Students as Wikipedians: Using Wikipedia to Teach Research Methodology and Encyclopedic Writing
- Kiwix4Schools Nigeria: Bridging Knowledge Gap through Digital Literacy
- Lire wikipedia en classe à Djougou au Bénin
- Tyap Wikimedians Zaria Outreach
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Administrators' newsletter – January 2024
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- Following the 2023 Arbitration Committee elections, the following editors have been appointed to the Arbitration Committee: Aoidh, Cabayi, Firefly, HJ Mitchell, Maxim, Sdrqaz, ToBeFree, Z1720.
- Following a motion, the Arbitration Committee rescinded the restrictions on the page name move discussions for the two Ireland pages that were enacted in June 2009.
- The arbitration case Industrial agriculture has been closed.
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- From the editor: NINETEEN MORE YEARS! NINETEEN MORE YEARS!
- Special report: Public Domain Day 2024
- Technology report: Wikipedia: A Multigenerational Pursuit
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Administrators' newsletter – February 2024
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- An RfC about increasing the inactivity requirement for Interface administrators is open for feedback.
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- Pages that use the JSON contentmodel will now use tabs instead of spaces for auto-indentation. This will significantly reduce the page size. (T326065)
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- Following a motion, the Arbitration Committee adopted a new enforcement restriction on January 4, 2024, wherein the Committee may apply the 'Reliable source consensus-required restriction' to specified topic areas.
- Community feedback is requested for a draft to replace the "Information for administrators processing requests" section at WP:AE.
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Joseph Phua
I have a conflict of interest for this article on Wikipedia and have been hired to request edits so that it meets all rules and guidelines of Wikipedia. The history shows you as the highest ranking person who edited the article. I was told by client that previous editors have attempted but did not disclose an affiliation so I am wondering if you can confirm that I did the proper disclosure. I made it to my userpage per the rules in PAYDISCLOSE. I am wondering if the article itself can be removed from Wikipedia and put into my sandbox space so that I can make improvements necessary for the Wikipedia community to review. GrantFortyNine (talk) 23:56, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- I am surprised that someone without prior Wikidpedia-editing experience was hired. Yes, the disclosure is correct, so thank you for doing that. No, unfortunately the article cannot be moved into a sandbox, but you can develop a new version in your sandbox at User:GrantFortyNine/Sandbox if you wish to do so, and then you can easily request people to check it through the discussion page at Talk:Joseph Phua. - Bilby (talk) 12:27, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
I played around with Wikipedia when it first launched but that was more than 20 years ago. From what I see, it has developed quite a bit since then so will take me a minute to get acquainted. Also to be fair, I am not technically being paid (per se). I am working on another marketing project for client and when this was mentioned I told him that I would see what I could do to assist. If I read the terms of use correctly, I would still be considered a paid editor since I am being compensated overall. Thank you for the advice on the sandbox. I will start there and see how to move forward. --GrantFortyNine (talk) 03:48, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
Am I allowed to edit Wikipedia outside of the Joseph Phua article? If there is something you recommend to help me get a better feel for editing I would appreciate the advice. --GrantFortyNine (talk) 03:56, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
I have requested the replacement of the current article with the one I edited in my sandbox. I think I did it correctly. Hopefully. Feedback is appreciated. --GrantFortyNine (talk) 00:45, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
This Month in Education: January 2024
This Month in Education
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- Cross-Continental Wikimedia Activities: A Dialogue between Malaysia and Estonia
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- Reading Wikipedia in the Classroom Teacher’s guide – now available in Bulgarian language
- Summer students at Auckland Museum
- WikiDunong: EduWiki Initiatives in the Philippines Project
- Wikimedia Armenia's Educational Workshops
- Wikimedia Foundation publishes its first Child Rights Impact Assessment
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- News and notes: Wikimedia Russia director declared "foreign agent" by Russian gov; EU prepares to pile on the papers
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James Baillieu
I am a colleague of James Bailleau and noticed that
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had been added to the article.
Noting that there has been no edits since September 2023, I wondered why this has been added four months later.
It detracts from what is otherwise an interesting and well designed article.
What is needed to have it reverted?
CutiePieFYA (talk) 02:00, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- The tag is needed because the article was created and edited by multiple undisclosed paid editors and it has not subsequently been independently verified. The tag highlights the issue to allow independent editors to know of and address the concerns. - Bilby (talk) 02:05, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for your quick response. How is the article independently verified? Is this something as an independent editor that I could help with? I'm am quite willing to spend the time to assist James to resolve this issue.
- Do I attempt to find these undisclosed paid editors? Is there a tool that can help me?
- CutiePieFYA (talk) 02:19, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- Please respond to my message of 13 days ago.
- CutiePieFYA (talk) 22:53, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
- It needs to be checked by someone who is not connected to the article. It has been flagged to allow editors to know that there is a concern, and at some point an independent editor will check the article and remove the tag if apparopriate. - Bilby (talk) 23:29, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
Reversion of source addition on Ross Coulthart page
Hi Bilby, regarding your revert on my source addition. Can we come to a compromise? I believe the source I included added context to the original source for that sentence. The original only cited the Australian Skeptics as the source for the claim that Coulthart believed that governments around the world including the Vatican had suppressed information regarding UAPs. My source confirms that he believes that certain governments are suppressing UAP knowledge and, in my interpretation, he appears to support the claim that the Vatican was involved too. At the very least he didn't push back on his interviewee and carefully reiterated the interviewee's claim regarding the Vatican later on. True, it doesn't support anything regarding the bent spoon but it does help add context to the second half of the sentence. What do you think, is there room for compromise here? OneUpOnUs (talk) 14:39, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
- The source failed validation. It needed to a) mention the bent spoon award, b) include the quote, or c) show that he actually belives that the Vatican is supressing claims about UFOs, rather than simply interviewing someone and saying "if they are correct". We need to be very clear with BLPs to avoid harming the subjects. - Bilby (talk) 14:42, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
- Understood, thanks for your time OneUpOnUs (talk) 02:14, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
Hi Bilby, They're back at it again, removing sourced material from the article with no explanation and no prior discussion. See Special:Diff/1208676162.
Regards, TarnishedPathtalk 13:13, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
- Saw that. I think a block is warranted - thanks for letting me know! - Bilby (talk) 13:14, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
- Bugger me you were fast. Your block notice showed up at the same instant I left them a message. TarnishedPathtalk 13:17, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
- I saw the edits and was considering what to do. Your comments made it easier. I hate using WP:NOTHERE, as I think that is the most misused block rationale. But in this case I think it very much applies. - Bilby (talk) 13:18, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
- I think it was pretty clear they were an SPA, and the project needs those like I need a hole in the head (not at all). TarnishedPathtalk 13:21, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
- I completely agree. :) - Bilby (talk) 13:21, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
- I think it was pretty clear they were an SPA, and the project needs those like I need a hole in the head (not at all). TarnishedPathtalk 13:21, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
- I saw the edits and was considering what to do. Your comments made it easier. I hate using WP:NOTHERE, as I think that is the most misused block rationale. But in this case I think it very much applies. - Bilby (talk) 13:18, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
- Bugger me you were fast. Your block notice showed up at the same instant I left them a message. TarnishedPathtalk 13:17, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
Zygmunt Łanowski (d. 1989) and Alf Tergel (d. 2007)
You've tagged both of these articles as "undisclosed paid", based on the record of the now-blocked creator/editor. However, they are both close translations of the pre-existing articles (on the Polish and Swedish Wikipedias respectively), and they would not be much different, if at all, if an unpaid editor had translated / created them. What needs to be done to remove the tags? Thanks, Ingratis (talk) 16:10, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
- Quite often I find that one person is hired to do both languages, or someone was hired to do one language in the past and now someone else is being hired to translate it. That said, if you go over the articles and think they are fine, I have no problem at all with the tags being removed. - Bilby (talk) 06:51, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
- OK, thanks - it just seemed unlikely to me that anyone, even their publishing houses, would think it worth paying for articles on dead translators. I'll check them carefully before de-tagging. Ingratis (talk) 10:17, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
- I suspect that this is the case, but at the same time I've seen a lot of articles about surprising subjects advertised online. Often by relatives, which I guess makes sense. - Bilby (talk) 10:18, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
- Right - I overlooked that! but I think these two are prob notable anyway - I'll take care that the references are strong enough. Ingratis (talk) 10:24, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
- No problem at all. Thanks for taking care of it. - Bilby (talk) 10:25, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
- Right - I overlooked that! but I think these two are prob notable anyway - I'll take care that the references are strong enough. Ingratis (talk) 10:24, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
- I suspect that this is the case, but at the same time I've seen a lot of articles about surprising subjects advertised online. Often by relatives, which I guess makes sense. - Bilby (talk) 10:18, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
- OK, thanks - it just seemed unlikely to me that anyone, even their publishing houses, would think it worth paying for articles on dead translators. I'll check them carefully before de-tagging. Ingratis (talk) 10:17, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – March 2024
News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2024).
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- Phase I of the 2024 RfA review is now open for participation. Editors are invited to review, comment on, and propose improvements to the requests for adminship process.
- Following an RfC, the inactivity requirement for the removal of the interface administrator right increased from 6 months to 12 months.
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- The mobile site history pages now use the same HTML as the desktop history pages. (T353388)
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- The 2024 appointees for the Ombuds commission are だ＊ぜ, AGK, Ameisenigel, Bennylin, Daniuu, Doǵu, Emufarmers, Faendalimas, MdsShakil, Minorax, Nehaoua, Renvoy and RoySmith as members, with Vermont serving as steward-observer.
- Following the 2024 Steward Elections, the following editors have been appointed as stewards: Ajraddatz, Albertoleoncio, EPIC, JJMC89, Johannnes89, Melos and Yahya.
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- News and notes: Wikimedia enters US Supreme court hearings as "the dolphin inadvertently caught in the net"
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Hello, Bilby. Thank you for your recent edits to this article. I would like to draw your attention to this edit, where Jamesthepilot has posted similar material again. It looks like a POV rant to me, but I won't edit the article myself, because as a member of GSoW my judgement may not be impartial. I would be grateful if you take a look at it, and use your own judgement about what you think is appropriate. Gronk Oz (talk) 23:09, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for letting me know - sorry that I missed that. Fortunately it has been taken care of. :) - Bilby (talk) 23:17, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
Howdy!
Could you check out @Adarshalphons9's edit to Adarsh Alphons? He removed a COI template you added, and I'd just like your opinion. Cheers! 🇺🇲JayCubby✡ plz edit my user pg! Talk 14:20, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for opening this discussion. Unless there's a provable conflict, it would not be fair to go about marking random wiki pages with these conflict templates. The person marking templates as such should also address the larger question - are the contributions made up/ fabricated or are the contents independently verifiable? I would assert that all content mentioned can be corroborated via a legitimate publications. Please feel free to search on any search engine you prefer. Adarshalphons9 (talk) 14:29, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- I will not comment on article content, however another user seems to have been in contact with you way back in 2018. That implies at the very least an instance of COI editing, regardless of factual accuracy. 🇺🇲JayCubby✡ plz edit my user pg! Talk 14:33, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- I have continued the discussion on @Adarshalphons9's page. 🇺🇲JayCubby✡ plz edit my user pg! Talk 14:35, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- I will not comment on article content, however another user seems to have been in contact with you way back in 2018. That implies at the very least an instance of COI editing, regardless of factual accuracy. 🇺🇲JayCubby✡ plz edit my user pg! Talk 14:33, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for pointing that out! Very interesting. I have no idea who this is. When I click on their profile, it goes to a blank page. Adarshalphons9 (talk) 14:36, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Whom are you referring to? 🇺🇲JayCubby✡ plz edit my user pg! Talk 14:38, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- User:Shaheba Sultana Adarshalphons9 (talk) 14:39, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Ah. See User_talk:Shaheba_Sultana#October_2018_2 specifically "So what can I do now? I gave much information whatever I know to verify this article! And Adarsh himself gave me his all information to make this page. People want this article in google so that they can search easily! Help me please! Thank you Shaheba Sultana (talk) 12:51 pm, 25 October 2018, Thursday (UTC−4)" 🇺🇲JayCubby✡ plz edit my user pg! Talk 14:42, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- User:Shaheba Sultana Adarshalphons9 (talk) 14:39, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Whom are you referring to? 🇺🇲JayCubby✡ plz edit my user pg! Talk 14:38, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
This Month in Education: February 2024
This Month in Education
Volume 13 • Issue 2 • February 2024
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