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Diplomacy
A wise man once said: Diplomacy consists of combining honesty and politeness. Both are objectively valuable moral principles. Be honest with me, but don't be mean to me. Don't misrepresent my views for your own political ends. And I'll treat you the same way.
- Once you call someone a POV-pusher, it pretty much stops collaboration dead. --Akhilleus (talk) 11:28, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
- Do your best to set a good example. Model the behavior you'd like to see. If someone does throw a stone, don't pick it up and throw it back. That will go a lot further than blocks, civility parole, or enumerating every conceivable type of incivility. MastCell Talk 04:14, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
- I have no opinion about this really, other than a general request that people try to relax and treat each other with kindness. That might sound useless and trite, but really, I think it's pretty important.--Jimbo Wales (talk) 22:39, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
- For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible.--Buster7 (talk) 21:00, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
I have a big, red pen...and I'm not afraid to use it
Hello former LOCE member :)
This is an invitation for you to join a brand-new WikiProject that aims to improve the articles tagged for copy edit. This is pretty important to Wikipedia because there are now over 4,000 such articles, some of which need quite a bit of help. This is not a clone of the LOCE because we will not deal with requests for copy edits, but will happily make improvements to articles at our own pace. If you're interested, sign up at the project page!
Cheers, Samuel Tan 02:27, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
"I have a big, red pen...and I'm not afraid to use it".
- I do need that red pen for Euro gold and silver commemorative coins (Austria) since I am almost at the point to have a huge break through with the iamges issue. I do need you to be strict and willing to remove anything that sounds "floral" :) Can you help me out?
Good-speed! ;-)
Buster, thanks so much for your encouraging note. My instinct is that it is intentional vandalism, but I COULD be wrong. I think I've given _______ every opportunity to grow here, but at the same time I think that pulling in third parties will correct the issue if it is an uneducated misake (which I hope) or premeditated vandalism (which I hope not). Hopefully, regardless or the accuracy of my Ilkali-hopes, my Wikipedia hopes are that enough third parties can either enlighten _______ or at least hold him in check (or, if I am flat wrong, give him free reign to continue). I think that's one of the beauties of Wikipedia process -- pulling in another set of eyes sometimes solves problems whether they are deliberate or not.
I won't be gone. But I'll be in other places in another name so that I can stay away from a few people and so that they can't track me down. If we encounter each other, it will be accident, and that's probably for the best. But I may look you up! Don't be surprised if you see a friendly Avatar appear out of nowhere :-). Tim (talk) 16:52, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
- And I thank you for your spirit, and kindness, as well. Sometimes it's easy to forget how many good eggs there are in Wikiland.Tim (talk) 01:34, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
Civility/Social Informatics
Cues-Filtered-Out theory suggests that some forms of computer-mediated-communcation are less personal than face-to-face activity because of the reduced number of contextual and nonverbal cues available in text-based online social interactions. It asserts that the diminished available cues available in computer-mediated-communication creates a heightened sense of anonymity, which leads to a more impersonal communication exchange than is present in face-to-face interaction.--Buster7 (talk) 02:47, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
- The following retrieved from Jimbo's Talk
- Agreed. And Ryan was right to conclude I wanted to "make an example", and I did. I think we really need to much more strongly insist on a pleasant work environment and ask people quite firmly not to engage in that kind of sniping and confrontational behavior. We also need to be very careful about the general mindset of "Yeah, he's a jerk but he does good work". The problem is when people act like that, they cause a lot of extra headache for a lot of people and drive away good people who don't feel like dealing with it. Those are the unseen consequences that we need to keep in mind.--Jimbo Wales (talk) 22:51, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
Membership life cycle for virtual communities
A membership life cycle for online communities was proposed by Amy Jo Kim (2000). It states that members of virtual communities begin their life in a community as visitors, or lurkers. After breaking through a barrier, people become novices and participate in community life. After contributing for a sustained period of time they become regulars. If they break through another barrier they become leaders, and once they have contributed to the community for some time they become elders. This life cycle can be applied to many virtual communities, most obviously to bulletin boards, but also to blogs and wiki-based communities like Wikipedia.
A similar model can be found in the works of Lave and Wenger, who illustrate a cycle of how users become incorporated into virtual communities using the principles of legitimate peripheral participation. They suggest five types of trajectories amongst a learning community:
- Peripheral (i.e. Lurker) –-- An outside, unstructured participation
- Inbound (i.e. Novice) –----- Newcomer is invested in the community and heading towards full participation
- Insider (i.e. Regular) –----- Full committed community participant
- Boundary (i.e. Leader) –-- A leader, sustains membership participation and brokers interactions
- Outbound (i.e. Elder) –---- Process of leaving the community due to new relationships, new positions, new outlooks
Hail gentleman, scholar and democrat
It is impossible not to be political, and ultimately it is our duty of service to engage in the civilized processes of democracy. There is much about you that I am finding to be a personal example of mature contribution. The irony is that you asked me to mentor you! I really don't know what I have to offer you, but the happy honesty, humility and humanity you show in so many ways is a needed example to me in real life. I look forward to working with you on chivalry, after the US election. And may God have mercy on the United States whoever he moves the hearts of the electors to select as their leader.
You've got to love the subtlety of those who print on their bank notes that it is not these but in God that trust appropriately is placed. Even those uncertain about God can value the sentiment that human relations are deeper than economics. Indeed, that is a treasured sentiment of the party that has the honour of your active support.
I don't need to remind you that best advocacy of your party will argue for policies rather than personalities. It takes a hard or lazy heart to drift from this under the pressures of campaigning. Passion is precious. I am certain you will make the most of the opportunity of the election to rekindle passion for important values. Seize the day! :) Alastair Haines (talk) 04:07, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
Thanks!I really appreciated your support on the Palin talk page. It was a welcome and wonderful surprise. Sniff. I'm a little choked up. :-) GreekParadise (talk) 04:54, 18 September 2008 (UTC) Talk:Palin commentsYour action was fine. I just found your choice of language amusing. In the future, if you are going to leave a comment, something like: "BLP violating comment removed." is perhaps a better way to express it. Dragons flight (talk) 04:06, 21 September 2008 (UTC) In replying to an other editor...
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