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hmmm

There are westdales everywhere, as for west dale the trove refs tend to have beverly as a qualifier, sigh... JarrahTree 05:05, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

@JarrahTree: Both Landgate and Nationalmap maps have the locality as Westdale. We had two wikidata items for it as well, which I merged. Less clear is Kokeby, Western Australia and Mount Kokeby, Western Australia, in the same shire. Two ore one place? Two wikidata items for now. Calistemon (talk) 08:04, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

The kokeby certainly the same... JarrahTree 09:01, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

New State Register of Heritage places

The Goldfields Water Supply Scheme is now on the State Register of Heritage Places, although I'm unsure if its the entire pipeline. The map on the inHerit entry confused me; it has just highlighted a square in Merredin. I'll leave it up to you to update the lists.

Djuringe Mooranoppin in Kellerberrin has also been added to the register recently, see [1] and [2]. Steelkamp (talk) 08:52, 16 February 2023 (UTC)

Thanks @Steelkamp:, going throught the lists and updating them is on my to do list as the next item. Calistemon (talk) 10:00, 16 February 2023 (UTC)

GWSS listing :is intriguing:

Location Details

Contains the main reservoirs: Mundaring Weir (Dam) and Mount Charlotte Reservoir; the main conduit of the pipeline (including all locking bar pipe, wood stave pipe and continuously welded pipe) which stretches 560km from Mundaring in the west to Kalgoorlie in the east; the remaining six of the eight original pump stations (Nos 1, 3, 5, 6, 7 and 8) including remaining equipment; the remaining four associated holding tanks (located at Steam Pump Stations Nos, 2, 4, 7 and 8); and the four regulating tanks located at Bakers Hill, West Northam; Bullabulling and Toorak Hill

That is a lot of stuff in the location JarrahTree 11:05, 16 February 2023 (UTC)

I guess they had to list it under a location and the place of origin was probably the best option. The child places are then registered under their respective location, No. 6 Steam Pumping Station (fmr), Ghooli under Yilgarn, No 3 Pumping Station under Cunderdin, and so on. Calistemon (talk) 11:13, 16 February 2023 (UTC)

but the totality of all the different lga's ! there is a lot that it is all in JarrahTree 11:15, 16 February 2023 (UTC)

@Steelkamp and JarrahTree: Interesting that the Goldfields Water Supply Scheme is listed under the Shire of Mundaring on the entry but also appears on the Kellerberrin State heritage list as well as on the Yilgarn one. Without having checking all of the ones it runs through right now I suspect it is listed under all of them, which would make perfect sense. Calistemon (talk) 12:39, 16 February 2023 (UTC)

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Thornlie line tunnel images

Hey Calistemon, I have taken some photos of the Beckenham tunnel for the Thornlie line, which I have added to the Thornlie line article. These photos are taken from the Dulwich Street level crossing and the Albany Highway bridge. Problem is I just use my phone camera, which is not good for zoomed in photos. I was wondering if you would be able to take better photos than me? That would be really useful for the Thornlie line article which I am working on. Steelkamp (talk) 05:02, 12 September 2023 (UTC)

@Steelkamp: It's a little out of the way from my usual "photographic range" around Rockingham, Kwinana and Cockburn. In the next few weeks I probably won't be able to go up there because of work and family commitments. At some point, after that, I would probably be able to just catch the train, take my bike and go on a photo trip. So, sadly, not right now but maybe in a few weeks time. Calistemon (talk) 05:22, 12 September 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for that. This isn't urgent. A few weeks won't hurt. I just want to get the Dulwich Street level crossing one done before the Armadale line shutdown on 20 November, as that area is going to be elevated. If you can't get that photo by then, please let me know. Thanks, Steelkamp (talk) 05:59, 12 September 2023 (UTC)

@Steelkamp: Will try but just send me a reminder in 4 weeks time. I got family visiting from Europe so I'm going to be tied down a bit until then. Calistemon (talk) 06:01, 12 September 2023 (UTC)

Sure. Steelkamp (talk) 06:09, 12 September 2023 (UTC)

@Steelkamp: Do you still require the images? If yes, I may have an opportunity to go there today. Calistemon (talk) 23:44, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

Yes please, I do. Steelkamp (talk) 23:50, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

@Steelkamp: I have placed the images I have taken today in Commons:Category:October 2023 in rail transport in Western Australia but I'm a little skeptical as to whether they are good enough to use. There was a fair bit of heat coming off the track, making them a bit blurred. Have a look and see what you think. Calistemon (talk) 10:37, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

I've added File:Armadale Line viewed from pedestrian crossing near Beckenham Station, Western Australia, October 2023 08.jpg to the Thornlie line article. Its better than the previous photo and the heat distortion isn't bad at the size used in the article. The tunnel is now easily visible. Thanks for the photos! Steelkamp (talk) 02:49, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

Sincere apologies

I was corrected in my misunderstanding of the development of government lines in the bunbury region - please see my notes on an emailed pdf... it should explain most of the oddities

Picton to Boyanup - was an isolated line between 1887-1891

Perth to Bunbury - was connected in 1893

Boyanup to Busselton - was connected in 1894 during the Forrest era public works construction

Boyanup was 1894-1920s signposted as 'Boyanup Junction'

Boyanup Junction was the final point of the Flinders Bay line, technically from the 1920s to the 1950s...

I was able to access 1900 era maps of the era, might add to commons to use... apologies that I had misled you - I got quite a few things wrong!!! JarrahTree 11:49, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

No worries, hope you are trying to update the relevant articles, where required. Calistemon (talk) 11:53, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

I hope to correct my mistakes. I am also hoping to ascertain which of the annual report items might be useful or not. However, I am always slow on the uptake. JarrahTree 11:56, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

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Wow - three years later

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:List_of_State_Register_of_Heritage_Places_in_the_Shire_of_Wyalkatchem&oldid=1015776335 intriguing it didnt get picked up then - trust you are having a safe easter wherever you are JarrahTree 06:02, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

Template:Infobox rail line

I think Arc Infrastructure should be listed as the owner, not the operator of each railway line. Template:Infobox rail line says that the operator parameter is for the "Operator(s) of services on the line". This would mean Aurizon for most of the Wheatbelt railway lines, as Arc Infrastructure doesn't run any trains and only maintains the tracks and provides access to operators. Steelkamp (talk) 07:50, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

@Steelkamp: I think you have far more insight into this topic than I have. I have focused more on the historical side of things, I have to say. Are you happy to update and fix as required? I see you already have done so at Wagin to Newdegate railway line. Calistemon (talk) 11:58, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm happy to fix as required. The main thing to remember going forward is that Arc Infrastructure should be put in the "owner" parameter of the infobox, not the "operator" parameter.

By the way, I see you've gotten the hang of making those route templates! Steelkamp (talk) 12:06, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

I dont think each line necessarily needs that sort of treatment - it should be centralised somewhere, the general trend for all the separate wheatbelt railway lines to get the information repeated seems a bit over doing it. The fact the information is current with limited pre-Brookfield/Arc information is potentially overdone, as PTA although quite comprehensive in the information is not the full story on operational history of some of the wheatbelt lines. JarrahTree 12:09, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

I did a little once I had the one you started for me as a guide. It also became easier once I realised that it is all in German! When I realised that BHF stood for Bahnhof and HST for Haltestelle and so on it all became a lot clearer. Calistemon (talk) 12:19, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

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Apologies

The changing identity of the location on the great southern railway at:

• Lakeside (there were multiple localities in WA with the name)

• Torbay Junction 1897 - 1921

• Elleker 1921 - current

some localities are more complicated than this... JarrahTree 13:37, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

Railways

Thanks for your work on the WA railway articles - really interesting reading and very thorough research :). Re the Meekatharra-Horseshoe Railway, I notice that Horseshoe, Western Australia, exists as an article and possibly would be a better spot for the railway details than the Peak Hill article. However I'm also not 100% certain that the Horseshoe goldfields townsite of the 1890s is one and the same as the manganese mine of the 1920s. I T B F 💬 02:44, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

Golden Horseshoe mine of the 1890s is not the same as the 1920s Horseshoe locality, correct. A close reading of trove entries will show that. Thanks for your support and interest. JarrahTree 05:13, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

I think the section I have added to the Peak Hill article is becoming to large and should be moved but I'm not sure of which title too. Railway or mine? By the looks of it, the mine never actually produced much so maybe the railway? Calistemon (talk) 09:13, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

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