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Hi, could you say where "Paul Streitz argues that Oxford's 1604 death was a sham". We need to know if this is a notably theory, published in some context, or just a rather obvious - if implausible - claim to make to deal with the dating problem. Paul B 11:41, 23 July 2006 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for the reply. I have moved the discussion to the relevant talk page. Paul B 12:46, 25 July 2006 (UTC)Reply


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I also stongly suspect that you are behind the recently reverted edits to Theories of humor by 147.126.46.147 and 147.126.46.145. You and the two IPs are all from the University of Chicago, have virtually identical editing patterns, and identical views on the article in question. You have a major conflict of intertest in this article since you are trying support your own research theory whilke attacking others, and using IPs to make some of the edits won't help. Meters (talk) 03:37, 4 April 2012 (UTC)Reply

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A theory must have some plausibility or coherence for serious consideration. Leaving the said theories as they are and allowing them a place is no different than allowing idle conversation about humor to pass for "theories." The theories in question have been shown to be either 1) gibberish, or 2) refutable by simple counterargument. To suggest that I delete them to "support my own research theory" is a defamatory accusation, and one which I rather resent. Seeing that the said weaker theories are gibberish, unsupported by any evidence, and incoherent is a judgment of common sense, not bias. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.67.225.46 (talk) 03:51, 4 April 2012 (UTC)Reply

Why would you resent the suggestion, and how could it defame you? I have never mentioned 108.67.225.46, posted on your talk page, or reverted any of your edits. Oh. and please don't use quotes when paraphrasing. It gives the impression that someone said or wrote something they didn't. Meters (talk) 18:40, 4 April 2012 (UTC)Reply

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but the need is not terribly "severe" -- I said the lack of mention of it is severe ... which it is, given the stature of two of the authors, the scope of the theory, and its reception. It is not evident that a currently published theory has the potential to dominate the field. -- Irrelevant strawman; domination or not, the book should be mentioned on the page. In fact, an article is now being prepared for publication, designed to discredit Professor Hurley's theory -- first: so what? There are papers opposed to all of the mentioned theories. Second: "designed to discredit"? This not the sort of language that objective scientists use. -- Jibal (talk) 03:49, 7 June 2012 (UTC)Reply

"discredit" is not a synonym for "refute", and it is absurd to claim that there are no papers that attack the various theories. In any case, it is clear that you have too much invested in this topic to be objective, and I won't waste my time on further interactions with you. -- Jibal (talk) 17:29, 8 June 2012 (UTC)Reply

With all due respect, sir --please-- you wrote, "There are papers opposed to all of the mentioned theories." That was rather inaccurate. Ontic-Epistemic Theory lacks such a paper, as does Pattern Recognition Theory, and Computer Model Theory, and the major example of Benign Violation Theory (except for my article). I don't mean any personal attack against you, by saying you were in error. The rising temperature of your reaction is somewhat scary.

I don't think I exaggerated in saying there was a lack of criticism. I never called Benign Violation rubbish, or unjustly denounced the author, A. Peter McGraw. He argues as he thinks is right. I only composed a criticism using clear and syllogistic logic, which has been reviewed by many journal editors in philosophy. There can only be one true theory; yes, I claim to have it but that does not make me an arrogant madman.Cdg1072 (talk) 18:05, 8 June 2012 (UTC)Reply

I think you're out of line Cdg1072. I've reviewed the history on this page and on both of your Talk pages, and there's no justification for calling Jibal's reaction "scary". He made some valid points and simply decided not to discuss the issue further. Your posting could also be seen as implying that Jibal called you an "arrogant madman", but as far as I can see neither he nor anyone else on Wikipedia has ever used that term (or anything remotely similar) with respect to you. Meters (talk) 18:56, 8 June 2012 (UTC)Reply

My impression -- you say that I am mistaken -- is that Jibal feels that my overall attitude is biased on the relevant issues. At the same time, I have carried on the bickering somewhat beyond reason on the following point.

Jibal did claim that all the theories of humor mentioned have had published critiques. I do not quote, but this assertion seems to me false, there are no such published critiques for several of the theories. He rightly corrected me, for saying that no theory mentioned in the article had been directly and strongly criticized in print, which I realize has been done. The more I am regarded as out of line, the less likely I suppose it is that I may be able to contribute reference to works authored by me, if no other editor opts to include them.Cdg1072 (talk) 19:09, 8 June 2012 (UTC)Reply

Nice job avoiding the issues I raised. Please explain how Jibal's reaction is "scary". Please cite where a Wikipedian used the term "arrogant madman" with reference to you. And please don't put words in my mouth; Jibal wrote "you have too much invested in this topic to be objective." I never commented on your impression of that statement. His statement seems clear to me, and I happen to agree with it.
You have a self-admitted conflict of interest with this article, and editors have politely and at great length explained the problems with how you have been editing. I will review all edits made to the article by any editor, but I'm not going to get into another involved discussion with you. Meters (talk) 21:43, 8 June 2012 (UTC)Reply

Thanks. I believe I see my mistake in this instance, more clearly now. I am making an admission of error, and hope that it complies with what you expect. I was not clear on what was conveyed by Jibal's use of "objective", which I was construing too generally. If I am correct, he is referring to the idea of bias in favor of oneself, rather than bias in favor of an idea or theory per se. I apparently took him to mean only in a practical sense that I have been failing to meet obligations of being objective in the relevant matters (which I may have confused with his reference to objective science, and of course, these concepts of logical and personal bias are not unrelated). I understand if you don't consider my excuse at all mitigating, but it has taken time to become proficient in the terminology and regulations here. The fault is mine, Meters. It is impossible to avoid speaking negatively or positively about a theory if one speaks of its truth or falsehood. I wonder if that means I should abandon this account (which I know I cannot delete).Cdg1072 (talk) 03:06, 9 June 2012 (UTC)Reply

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Is it possible to make a mistake in writing in these talk pages, and correct it? Or is that against a certain regulation? It seems as though one is stuck with one's words, once one hits "Save page." Someone or something keeps reverting to a previous edit. Cdg1072 (talk) 03:06, 9 June 2012 (UTC)Reply

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As you may notice above in a similarly labeled discussion, I proposed that it has not been proven (publicly) that the Depository rifle had no evidence of bottom sling mounts, which seem clearly visible in the backyard photos, since there is no other way Oswald's makeshift sling in the photos could be attached. How do LN's respond to this? Do they claim that it only looks like the sling in backyard photos is attached to the rifle underside?

However, I do not deny that Oswald could have picked up a rifle from the post office during his workday at Jaggars-Chiles-Stovall. As Epstein wrote in Legend (1978), he apparently picked up on March 25th the rifle he had ordered, and "brought it back to his office, where he showed it to one of his fellow employees, Jack Bowen" (Epstein 209). This should settle that question, which still seems to linger with CTs.Cdg1072 ([[User talk:Cdg1072|talk]]) 03:49, 25 June 2012 (UTC)Reply

This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject. Do you have a proposal for a change in the article? Location (talk) 21:38, 26 July 2012 (UTC)Reply

I think it would be possible to mention in the article that the backyard rifle does not match the TSBD and archives rifle. However, I know not what reliable source exists through which to bring that up in the article besides the unpublished work of Mr. G. Jesus (I only italicize reliable source for emphasis). If there isn't an appopriate published source, then the issue might for now be abandoned. Your question might also be directed at the individuals who raised this topic, on this page, in June, 2010. Their discussants subsequently continued, for about 10 times more text than did I (as you see above). I ought to have considered that their question was raised without a purpose in terms of changing or adding to the article text.Cdg1072 (talk) 22:15, 26 July 2012 (UTC)Reply

One of the interlocutors also swore: "Bullshit," and no one said a thing in protest to his language.24.136.7.211 (talk) 22:17, 26 July 2012 (UTC)Reply

It indeed may LOOK like the sling is attached to the underside of the rifle in the backyard photos, since it disappears into the rifle on its way to rings on the side you can't see. The best backyard photo to see this, is the one where Oswald holds the literature in his right hand *away* from his body (CE-133C), not under the chin, as he does in in photo CE-133A (shown at right). In particular, what looks like a forward sling mount in CE-133A is really a piece of shrubbery, not visible in the CE-133C photo that didn't surface until 1977 (as some cop had it as a souvenir): [1]. Which is why the bottom of the sling simply seems to disappear into the butt in this photo-- it's actually going past the butt to a ring on the side away from you, and the same happens at the forward sling ring mount. You can't see any sling mounts because in the M91/38 carbine, both mounts are on the left side (the shooter's left and he holds it in firing position) of the rifle. Which is why neither of them show in the backyard photo, OR the CE photo, which both both only show the rifle's right side, which is not the side with the sling rings. If you want to see what these rings actually look like on an M91/38 carbine, see HERE. That's what you're not seeing. Below is a CE (Warren Commission) photo of Oswald's Carcano with sling still attached, published by the LA Times, and you can see that the sling doesn't attach to the bottom of the rifle, but goes behind it, where you can't see how it attaches. So where does it attach? On the side you can't see.Commission Exhibit CE-139.
Note that the M91/38 short carbine is the only Carcano model in which you can't see any sling swivels when looking at it from the right side, since they're both on the left side of the rifle, not the bottom. Here are a bunch of different Carcanos examined by the HCSA committee, and Oswald's model, the M91/38 is second from the top. See, no swivels visible [2], because they're on the far side.
Now, as for Oswald. I don't know if he even bought a sling with the original rifle. The original leather slings would have been as old as he was (okay, made in 1940, so one year newer) and they are rare. The backyard photo shows a sling that looks light in color, as though Oswald had attached some old rope to the rifle, just after he got it. I'd have to do further research to find out. Maybe nobody knows. In any case, the rifle was found in the TSBD with a better leather sling (complete with a wide middle armpiece, which is NOT military issue) attached, since it is carried out after being found BY the sling, as per proper police procedure. [3]. You see the sling with wide arm section in the rifle the officer holds up at the TSBD, but you don't see any swivels on this photo, either, because, again, they are on the wrong (invisible) side, when the barrel points to the viewer-right. Here is a very nice AP photo of the TSBD and its distinctive sling, and you can see it's attached on the side of the rifle you cannot see, with NO sling swivels hanging down. Again see CE-139. Okay? If you think you actually see sling swivels or rings in any backyard photo, you have a very overactive imagination. I've looked and looked, and don't see either attachment. They're on the wrong side of the rifle. SBHarris 23:43, 26 July 2012 (UTC)Reply

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Hey, you recently gave my book a one star review because of a wikipedia edit. I understand that what I did was wrong, and I don't plan on doing it again, but can you please remove the one-star review? My sales have stopped because of your review.

I'll never put a wikipedia edit again, and if I do, you can always give me another bad review. Just please, remove the last one. 63.143.246.49 (talk) 12:56, 25 February 2013 (UTC)Reply

Neither of the 1-star reviews is by me. There's no need to so blatantly trash a book of that sort, and neither of those low reviews says much of substance.

I've accomplished enough by solving the problem of humor, and disposing of the other main theories. It has taken work, like I can hardly believe. When you put a book out and expect to sell it, be as sure as you can about it, and how seriously you take yourself. Philosophy is a tough world, even if you're right! Cdg1072 (talk) 21:36, 25 February 2013 (UTC)Reply

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The above article is being drafted as of now.Cdg1072 (talk) 14:49, 6 July 2019 (UTC)Reply

I was not sure if this constitutes a true conflict of interest. I have no intention of mentioning my opinion of the topic, in the article. And I am well able to write about the other opinions from a neutral point of view. The article will not criticize those many opinions, it will only state them. So there is no substantial CIO issue in this case.Cdg1072 (talk) 18:43, 6 July 2019 (UTC)Reply

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Thanks. I'll log in next time. They were only typo edits. Cdg1072 (talk) 14:49, 28 February 2021 (UTC)Reply

You did nothing wrong and User: Meters's warning is nonsense: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppetry#Editing_while_logged_out ... there's nothing there against editing "in the same setting", just about being deceptive, which of course you weren't. -- Jibal (talk) 22:28, 16 July 2021 (UTC)Reply
user:Jibal, what are you talking about? This is the generic (and only) warning that a user is possibly exposing his location by using an IP rather than his named account. There's no claim that the particular edits here were problematic.
You might want rethink dropping in to comment on things (and stale things at that) that you don't know about. Note that this user has a conflict of interest in this article, and has in the past used IPs to make major edits to this article. Meters (talk) 22:46, 16 July 2021 (UTC)Reply
There's nothing I need to rethink here (but someone ought to rethink the generic warning, which contains a warning about a block that doesn't square with the current policy). I'm well aware of the user's history, as searching for my ID on this page indicates. Anyway, unlike so many, I don't live here at Wikipedia, my comment was a one-off, and it doesn't warrant further discussion, so I'm out of here. -- Jibal (talk) 22:50, 16 July 2021 (UTC)Reply
Allow me to reword that. It seems to me that the generic warning contains a warning about a block that doesn't square with the current policy. I have no argument with the alert about exposing one's location. Anyway, I will refrain from further stale responses ... you're right to call me out on that. -- Jibal (talk) 22:50, 16 July 2021 (UTC)Reply

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