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Your submission at Articles for creation: Daniel Liam Glyn (May 12)
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Changing Stations was released 28 October 2016, not 2018. This is not meant to look like an advert. Please can I edit my page to make it more wiki friendly? Again, this was not for advertising or promotion, it was providing information on a past project.
Legacypac (talk) 05:29, 12 May 2018 (UTC)Hello, CaravanBoy!
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Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:Daniel Liam Glyn
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A tag has been placed on Draft:Daniel Liam Glyn, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.
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AfC notification: Draft:Daniel Liam Glyn has a new comment
editHi, how can I edit the page for 'Daniel Liam Glyn' so it's less like an advert? It wasn't my intention to do so, I was just putting as much info as possible. Now it appears to have been completely deleted meaning all my work has been lost. (talk)
- Follow the directions above. The page was highly promotional and your username suggests you have an undeclared WP:COI Legacypac (talk) 18:15, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
- So I have to start from scratch? Everything is now gone. I'm trying to follow the instructions above but the page was deleted before I even saw the first message, and now I've gone to edit, it's a blank page. It's difficult to not come across promotional when listing everything that the composer has done in detail, but I can re-draft it so it is more vague and less elaborate. My username is the name of the record label that the composer has set up
- I'll ask for the admin who deleted the page to undelete it. But you will have to reword it before resubmitting it or anything else, or it will be deleted again. I hope that helps, and always remember to write with a neutral point of view. Thanks you. L293D (☎ • ✎) 21:40, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
- Okay, many thanks for your help and for your advice. If you could ask for the admin to undelete that would be great so I can then edit and make it more wiki friendly and neutral.
- It might take a little time (12-24 hours) for it to be undeleted, as tomorrow is Sunday and many admins aren't active on Sundays. I hope you like it here and stay even if the environment is not very welcoming to new users. Also, Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four tildes (
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). Best, L293D (☎ • ✎) 03:04, 13 May 2018 (UTC)- I noticed that your username is the name of the record label - which is a username violation and suggests you have an undeclared WP:COI. Legacypac (talk) 04:23, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
- It might take a little time (12-24 hours) for it to be undeleted, as tomorrow is Sunday and many admins aren't active on Sundays. I hope you like it here and stay even if the environment is not very welcoming to new users. Also, Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four tildes (
- Okay thank you both, I will await for the page to come back. Regards to my username, I picked one that I could connect with the article I'm writing about, so a poor decision on my behalf. Can I change the username, or now do I have to go down the declared WP:COI route? CaravanBoy (talk) 10:55, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
- Okay, many thanks for your help and for your advice. If you could ask for the admin to undelete that would be great so I can then edit and make it more wiki friendly and neutral.
If you have a WP:COI you need to declare it regardless of your username. Usernames can be changed on request. Legacypac (talk) 11:22, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
- If you have a conflict of interest, then add
{{Connected contributor|User1=CaravanBoy|U1-declared=yes| U1-otherlinks=[[Draft:Daniel Liam Glyn]]}}
to your user page (for now it does not exist, but just click the link and add the text). - It will render
The following Wikipedia contributor has declared a personal or professional connection to the subject of this draft. Relevant policies and guidelines may include conflict of interest, autobiography, and neutral point of view.
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- Your username might also be a minor violiation of Wikpedia's username policy (I'm not an expert in that domain). If it is, you can request a username change at WP:CHUS or by clicking here and filling out the
NEW=
with your new requested username andREASON=
with the reason you are requesting an username change (in this case, just write "minor username policy violation"). I hope this helps. Thanks, L293D (☎ • ✎) 02:06, 14 May 2018 (UTC)- The deleting admin, RHaworth has E-mailed the text to you. DO not recreate your previously deleted draft without modifications: if you do, it will be deleted again. L293D (☎ • ✎) 22:41, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you to everyone for all your help, it's much appreciated and I understand this a lot better now. I have declared the username policy and also asked to change my username. I have received the e-mail with the old text in and I have edited and modified the entire article so it reads from a more neutral point of view, listing only facts and background information (deleting anything that could appear advertisement or promotion. CaravanBoy (talk)
- The deleting admin, RHaworth has E-mailed the text to you. DO not recreate your previously deleted draft without modifications: if you do, it will be deleted again. L293D (☎ • ✎) 22:41, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
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editI've declined your Draft. You can see why it was declined at Draft:Daniel Liam Glyn. L293D (☎ • ✎) 02:31, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you for your response. Just so I get this right, is it up to you to decide who is 'notable' enough to have an article on Wikipedia? Where does the view point of significant coverage and not enough significant coverage start and end? I'm just trying to gain some clarity. I understand your point but there are reliable sources within the article which have been referenced throughout - coverage in national TimeOut magazine, The Big Issue (also nationally), Norwegian Air Magazine (globally) and also tv appearances such as RTTV worldwide. Do you need people who appear as articles on Wikipedia to be of a certain level of fame or just well known within the music industry? I'd say Daniel is well known within the music industry as a composer and arranger, although not particularly 'famous'. I don't see that as a reason not to have him as someone of interest, as he is what I'd call a 'public figure'. He has a verified badge on both Spotify and iTunes online services (for which he has over 26,000 streams and downloads) and his album is stocked in record stores across the UK, most recently Piccadilly Records (I left this off the article, as I didn't want this to be seen as advertisement or promotion) which you can see here: https://www.piccadillyrecords.com/counter/product.php?pid=121014. (talk)
- I know, and your draft is really good. But take a look at WP:AFD - the place where dozens of article are deleted each day for lack of notability - and you will see what the standards are there. If this were my website, I would have accepted it. But if I accept it here it will not survive long the deletionists that prowl newly created articles. L293D (☎ • ✎) 15:17, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
- I've just had a look now at that page now, and it's a crazy amount. Though with that said I understand 1000's of articles must get created and drafted daily so you have to make sure they are scanned and manned effectively so people don't just create any old nonsense. I completely undertstand, and you don't have an easy job. Is the draft acceptable enough to remain as it is, so I can keep adding to it to when Daniel works on future projects, gains more exposure from notable press and works on futher music releases, or will it be deleted soon?(talk)
- Hi, is the above okay for me to keep working on as a draft? Or will it get deleted? talk)
- Sorry for the delay. I asked other reviewers about your draft to get other opinions about it. L293D (☎ • ✎) 02:27, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
- On another note, it looks like you screwed up your signature. L293D (☎ • ✎) 02:28, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
- Okay that's great, many thanks for your help. I can see that my page has been accepted (which is great news), and is has been labelled as Class-C. Does this mean it's still liable to be deleted, or is it just stating that it will need to be edited and added to over time from more realiable sources of interest etc to work its way up the grading standards? I am looking to create a further article about an album itself by the composer (facts and figures as it's a public worldwide release) would this be advised? Apologies for the signature, I will fix this now Chrysler2012 (talk) 11:30, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
- Classes don't really have much to do with deletion. Its to asses the quality of the article. Of course, if you can expand on your article and add sources, it could be rated B-class, but I'm not sure if there is much to add for now. Very short articles are often rated Start-class of C-class. Long and well-written and well-sourced articles can be assessed a B or A-class. And then you can nominate an article for good article class, but it will have to go through a review from someone else. You can see Talk:HMS Liverpool (C11)/GA1 for a good article review I'm working on now. L293D (☎ • ✎) 12:26, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you for your response. Just so I get this right, is it up to you to decide who is 'notable' enough to have an article on Wikipedia? Where does the view point of significant coverage and not enough significant coverage start and end? I'm just trying to gain some clarity. I understand your point but there are reliable sources within the article which have been referenced throughout - coverage in national TimeOut magazine, The Big Issue (also nationally), Norwegian Air Magazine (globally) and also tv appearances such as RTTV worldwide. Do you need people who appear as articles on Wikipedia to be of a certain level of fame or just well known within the music industry? I'd say Daniel is well known within the music industry as a composer and arranger, although not particularly 'famous'. I don't see that as a reason not to have him as someone of interest, as he is what I'd call a 'public figure'. He has a verified badge on both Spotify and iTunes online services (for which he has over 26,000 streams and downloads) and his album is stocked in record stores across the UK, most recently Piccadilly Records (I left this off the article, as I didn't want this to be seen as advertisement or promotion) which you can see here: https://www.piccadillyrecords.com/counter/product.php?pid=121014. (talk)
File Deletion
editHey, I saw that the picture of Daniel Liam Glyn has been nominated for deletion. You asked on the deletion discussion page: "Can I contact the composer himself to support this?" Well, the response is yes. I you could contact the composer who owns this image, then that would be awesome. There are instructions for doing that at WP:DONATEIMAGE. But if this is too complicated for you and you have a file that you created yourself, then you can upload it and this would work too. L293D (☎ • ✎) 12:49, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
- Okay, many thanks for your help! I have contacted the composer and Daniel says he will be in touch this morning — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chrysler2012 (talk • contribs)
- Its been about a week - have you contacted him? If you haven't, you could tell him about this this page, which should be simple and straightforward.
- P.S. you screwed up you signature again. If you want a sig like mine, then place
<span style="text-shadow:#396 0.2em 0.2em 0.5em; class=texhtml">[[User:Chrysler2012|<b style="color:#060">Chrysler2012</b>]] ([[User talk:Chrysler2012#top|<b style="color:#000">☎</b>]] • [[Special:Contributions/Chrysler2012|<b style="color:#000">✎</b>]])</span>
to your preferences page in the signature box. L293D (☎ • ✎) 02:05, 26 June 2018 (UTC)- Hi - he's already done this? He filled it out and sent it on June 20th to 'permissions-commons@wikimedia.org', he said he hasn't had a response about it. Di I ask him to repeat all of this again? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chrysler2012 (talk • contribs)
- Ill ask @GorillaWarfare: about it, as I'm not an OTRS member. L293D (☎ • ✎) 13:25, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
- Hi - he's already done this? He filled it out and sent it on June 20th to 'permissions-commons@wikimedia.org', he said he hasn't had a response about it. Di I ask him to repeat all of this again? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chrysler2012 (talk • contribs)
- P.S. you screwed up you signature again. If you want a sig like mine, then place
- @Chrysler2012: I dug it out of the queue and added the confirmation to the file page. Sorry about the wait, OTRS can get pretty backed up sometimes. GorillaWarfare (talk) 19:43, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you both — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chrysler2012 (talk • contribs) 07:19, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
I'm sorry to bug you more, but you will have to repeat the process for c:File:DanielLiamGlyn.png. When this is done, Ill close the deletion discussion. Also, I saw you question: "I now would like to create an article for a released album of his, but I'm concerned about the cover art. Do I get permission from him to allow me to create a page for his album and subsequently use thr album cover/s?". You could request permission from him, but I'm not sure who owns the copyright for the cover art (it may be the publisher). There is a thing called fair use, which enables you to upload non-free images if they meet a specific criteria. But since not all countries have legalized fair use, you will need to upload it locally - that is, to upload it to Wikipedia, not Wikimedia Commons. You can use the upload Wizard for this. Thanks. L293D (☎ • ✎) 14:57, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
- No worries, I appreicate all of your help. I've contacted the composer again and he has repeated the process for c:File:DanielLiamGlyn.png. He has also given me permission to start a new article for his album 'Changing Stations' along with the album's cover artwork which has now been uploaded locally using the upload Wizard which I believe to be classed as 'fair use'. If this is not the case, then I know Daniel will be happy to release copyright as he owns the rights to the artwork so he will be able to release this too. The page 'Changing Stations' is currently in draft and is under construction. Thanks again for your help!
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- Hi, the composer has e-mailed permission for his album cover (which he owns the copyright to, as he self-released the project and owns publishing copyright also) to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org - I have submitted a draft for the album 'Changing Stations' and aim to add the album cover to the page if it is accepted. Is this the correct process? Or do I need to upload it somewhere else? Chrysler2012
Hi there, (talk) I understand this was from a long time ago, but I work for the artist / composer of this album and he owns the artwork which is on the digital and physical release. What do we need to do in order to upload the album artwork without it being removed for non-free use? It's a worldwide release.Chrysler2012
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L293D (☎ • ✎) 21:10, 6 October 2018 (UTC)Album release dates
editPer Template:Infobox_album#released, the earliest known release date for an album is the one that's supposed to be added to the infobox, not the one you deem most relevant. Thank you. snapsnap (talk) 20:08, 22 August 2019 (UTC)