User talk:Cindamuse/Archive 11

Please do not delete Find A Dream

I am begging you! I have been working relentlessly to have the article conform to your guidelines. Our organization is no different from Make A Wish Foundation, except we work with children throughout the country who are underprivelaged and try to help them live out their dreams. We are a 501 c nonprofit organization and make no money doing what we do..we simply want to promote the organization to spread awareness and hopefully motivate people to volunteer in their communties and help out our youth. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chriscella (talk • contribs) 17:41, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

• Sometimes there is a misunderstanding of the purpose of Wikipedia. This project is not a promotional tool, but an encyclopedia. There is often semantic confusion over the definition of unambiguous publicity, promotion, and advertising. One of the ways to better understand the criteria pertaining to appropriate inclusion on Wikipedia is to determine if the article has been written or edited in an attempt to manage the public's perception of the subject of the article. Mere publicity, promotion, and advertising need not reference sales or reviews pertaining to the quality or feasibility of the subject of the article. Simply announcing the existence of a subject prior to notability would be considered promotional and inappropriate. While Find A Dream appears to have an admirable mission, the importance or value of an organization is not among the criteria for inclusion. Articles on Wikipedia need to be based on and supported by significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. Notability of an organization must be established and presented through reliable secondary and third-party sources before inclusion on Wikipedia can be accepted. Your time on Wikipedia would be greatly enhanced if you would read, review, and come to an understanding of the guidelines linked at the top of your talk page. At this point, due to continued noncompliance and recreation, along with lack of notability, the Find A Dream article has been "salted", or restricted from being created again. You may want to consider creating an article on Facebook or another social networking website. Best regards, Cind.amuse 17:56, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Justin Trottier article

Thank you for your input. I've only made a handful of articles, so I'm kind of a newbie. I have made some minor changes (mostly references), and hope to build it later. As for notability, that I'm not sure about. We can either merge this information into existing articles, or create a new one. I made it because I did a search for a wiki bio of him and could not find one. I don't know. We can decide that later.

--Havermayer (talk) 21:48, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

• Just off hand, it looks like you took care of the notability, by including significant coverage in reliable, independent sources. I'll do a quick cleanup for you. Don't hesitate to contact me if you have any questions. Best regards, Cind.amuse 21:55, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
• I just have to add that one of the last articles I reviewed included a comparison of the Fuck article with the Fucking off article. Now, here's an athiest. This little preacher's kid is so totally going to hell. ;) Cind.amuse 22:12, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Horace Brinsmead

Thanks for checking the new article of Horace Brinsmead, I think I had formulated too close to the biography page of the Melbourne Museum of Aviation, even if I did to not copy complete sentences from there. I think, however, that the article is now clear of copyrighted material; please also note that I referenced material from other sources. For the translation and interlinking to de:WP, I'd like to know when the warning in the article will be removed. Thanks, Enyavar (talk) 22:03, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

• No problem. I saw your work and think the changes "should be" sufficient. That said, another editor will come along and make an objective review of the article. It balances things out. I won't be deleting it. Your message on the talk page should be enough. If it gets deleted, simply contact the person who reviews and deletes it and ask him/her what they saw that you could possibly revise. You can also ask them for a copy of the article if you don't keep a copy prior. Let me know if you have any questions anytime. Cind.amuse 22:12, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

The Young and The Brave multiple issue template

The two issues listed in the template have been addressed, as discussed on its talk page Talk:The Young and The Brave‎. I therefore suggest that the template be removed Roesser (talk) 06:38, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks for contacting me. I went ahead and responded on the article's talk page. Best regards, Cind.amuse 09:39, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

GOCE drive news

Guild of Copy Editors January 2011 backlog elimination drive Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors January 2011 Backlog elimination drive! The drive is halfway over, so here are some mid-drive stats. Participation GOCE January 2011 backlog elimination drive progress graphs So far, 43 people have signed up for this drive. Of these, 25 have participated. If you signed up for the drive but haven't participated yet, it's not too late! Try to copy edit at least a few articles. Remember, if you have rollover words from the last drive, you will lose them if you do not participate in this drive. If you haven't signed up for the drive yet, you can sign up now. Progress report We have eliminated two months from the backlog – January and February 2009. One of our goals is to eliminate as many months as possible from the 2009 backlog. Please help us reduce the size of this part of the backlog if you haven't already. Another goal is to reduce the entire backlog by 10%, or by 515 articles. Currently, we have eliminated 375 articles from the queue, so if each participant copy edits four more articles, we will reach that goal. Thank you for participating in the January 2011 drive. We anticipate it will be another big success! Your drive coordinators –S Masters (talk), Diannaa (Talk), The UtahraptorTalk to me, and Tea with toast (Talk)

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Speedy deletion declined: Horace Brinsmead

Hello Cindamuse. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Horace Brinsmead, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: No longer a COPYVIO. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 21:37, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

• I agree. I think the editor did a great job in addressing the copyvio concerns. Thanks for contacting me. Hope you have a great week, Cind.amuse 17:37, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

William R. Callahan (state representative)

What kind of copyediting does this article need? It's only three sentences long. —Designate (talk) 22:13, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

• I went ahead and gave it a quick copyedit. You can check the history for the changes made. Best regards, Cind.amuse 06:06, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

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Nativity of Our Lord Catholic Church

Thank you for your recent edits. What else can I do to improve the article? It was marked for deletion and another editor challenged the deletion. I am new to this so I am not sure what that this means or what else I should do to prevent deletion. I noticed that the section on Political History was removed. The political history of this church is one of the things that makes it truly notable. Any advice is appreciated Thanks again --Detroitoppo (talk) 23:37, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

• Hi, I will take another look at it. I can't do much though, I recently broke my hand and I am experiencing a lot of pain today. I didn't actually remove the political history section, but rather moved it to the lede section to emphasize that this part of the church's history supports notability. I saw the PROD and was ready to challenge, but the other editor beat me to it. I made the revisions to more clearly show notability. Hopefully nobody else will challenge notability or suggest deletion. Cind.amuse 23:50, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! Take care of your hand. --Detroitoppo (talk) 00:10, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

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Centennial Aviation Club

I am new to Wikipedia and recently made some major edits to the Centennial Aviation Club article. I am working to link the article to some third party sources as it currently only links to the club website and has been flagged for deletion. I would like some assistance with this article if possible (I was not quite expecting a deletion flag and am trying to figure out where to go from here. Andrew Kurish (talk) 05:15, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• Hi Andrew! Welcome to Wikipedia! As far as your article goes, at this point, there is a question of notability. While another editor removed the proposal for deletion, I have restored the unaddressed maintenance tags. The article actually qualifies for speedy deletion under the A7 criteria due to lack of notability. Articles on Wikipedia require significant coverage by reliable sources, that are independent of the subject. Articles also need to clearly indicate in the lede paragraph, why the subject is notable. The article as it now stands, does not present any information about the Centennial Aviation Club, outside of mere existence. At this point, I would suggest making a copy of your article for safe keeping and work on finding reliable, independent sources. If you don't keep a copy of your article, you may become frustrated to find your article quickly deleted by another individual when you are away from the computer. Save your work! Let me know if you have any other questions. Cind.amuse 04:02, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Judablue

Hello Cindamuse. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Judablue, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Article claims coverage in reliable sources. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 05:00, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks for contacting me. I went ahead and sent the article for deletion discussion due to lack of notability supported in significant, reliable, and independent coverage. Subject additionally does not meet the criteria for bands found at WP:BAND. Best regards, Cind.amuse 04:17, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

adoption

can you adopt me?Curiouscorey (talk) 19:06, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

• Hi Corey! Welcome to Wikipedia! I am more than happy to help you through the ins and outs of Wikipedia. What brought you to Wikipedia? Where would you like to participate? Do you have any specific questions? Feel free to ask! Cind.amuse 07:56, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

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Hi! Adoption? Willing to help?

Okay! Hi! I'm....well, you can call me Aurora..or Glory....paradise? I'm not too sure! (Why would anyone call me Paradise?! Like, heaven! Sorry. Lame joke. :) huh... :P :D) Sooo.....well, I was just reading this article on the whole adoptin thingy and it souded pretty appealing...I mean, at least to me! I'm kinda new here.... So I went to the list of adopters and I saw your name...okay, I'm kinda telling you everything in detail! I think I should cut it short a bit! So anyway, to make a long story short, I saw your username and read what yo'd written aobut yourself and fortes and you seems pretty amiable and nice, with a good sense of humour! :)) So.....I'm asking for adoption! Willing to adopt me?! (We can talk about it furthur if you agree!!!)

Regards, --Aurora Glory Paradise (talk) 10:36, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

P.S- Hope you get well soooonn!!! A broken hand? Ouch! Get well soon!!!

• Hey there! Thanks for contacting me. I would be more than happy to help you navigate through the wild world of Wikipedia. A sense of humour is always good. Overall, I'm a bit whack. I really don't take anything too seriously. Do you have any specific or pressing questions you would like to ask? Please consider me a resource whenever you have questions or concerns. I'm generally here most days, unless I'm dying of pain from my hand. One handed typing is the dregs. Okay, back to you. Cind.amuse 12:28, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Robert Langmead Re-upload

Dear Cindamuse,

Sorry to hear about your hand - I hope you get better soon!

I wanted to let you know that I have redrafted the Robert Langmead Wikipedia article as promised. I now believe that it conforms to notibility guidelines WP:GNG and guidelines on biographies of living people WP:BIOG.

The article now has references from the London Times, the Financial Times, Management Today and Press Enterprise from a range of dates over the last decade. If you would like to discuss any aspect of the newly updated article, I'd be happy to on thr Robert Langmead discussion page.

Thanks very much, Martinj1973 —Preceding undated comment added 09:51, 26 January 2011 (UTC).

• Hi Martin! Thanks for the comments about my hand. It's healing. No surgery, so that is good. But one handed typing is quite hilarious. LOL About the article. Can you upload it to a subpage of your user space? I'd be happy to take a look at it. Best regards, Cind.amuse 09:57, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

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Speedy Deletion for TML Studios

Hello, I had recently created the page, TML Studios, and I had noticed that it was put under for speedy deletion. I was wondering why it was and what I could do to improve it.

Thank-You,

David Cruit — Preceding unsigned comment added by David770077 (talk • contribs) 08:10, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

• Hi David. First off, welcome to Wikipedia! Please don't let the process discourage you. Anytime you have a question, please feel free to contact me. As far as the TML Studios article, the article needs to clearly state how the subject is important or significant. What sets this organization apart from similar organizations. Additionally, notability needs to be established through significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. Guidelines you can review can be found here: WP:GNG and WP:ORG. Best regards, Cind.amuse 08:23, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Nigel Paul C. Villarete‎

thank you very much. i will try to add more references within the next few days. some websites are down especially those of the philippine government, but i'll try again in a few days. i didn't really want to do this myself but it has become necessary due to references and cross-references to the projects i am doing. if you may have noticed, i try to be as factual as possible and not self-serving, i hope you can consider that. i will try to delete any statement that i may have difficulty finding references, especially those more than 10 years ago where specific web links may no longer be available. again, thank you and best regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zidlakan (talk • contribs) 11:27, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

• No problem, Paul. Welcome to Wikipedia. Again, don't hesitate to contact me if you have any questions. Have a great day/evening. Best regards, Cind.amuse 11:33, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Equinelawyer

Since the content was deleted as soon as you opened the mfd, you can probably tag the mfd with {{db-author}}. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Otters want attention)} 19:26, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

• Very cool. Thanks Hammer dude. Cind.amuse 19:29, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

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Savannah Gold

Have you read the discussion site. The old AfD was a joke. She won the UKAFTA award and it was no fan voting! so she really passes WP:PORNBIO by winning an award. --Hixteilchen (talk) 14:16, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

• I have and quite frankly, I agree with you. That said, if you disagree with the previous deletion, the appropriate response would be to open a request at Deletion Review. It is not appropriate to bypass or disregard Wikipedia policy and guidelines to put forth your own interests and recreate an article previously deleted by community consensus. I want to encourage you to open a review. You have my support. Regards, Cind.amuse 14:20, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion declined: Avond Ploeg

Hello Cindamuse. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Avond Ploeg, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Not unambiguously promotional. Thank you. GedUK  21:20, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks for contacting me. I sent the article for AfD discussion due to the highly promotional content. Please feel free to participate by adding your concerns. Additionally, notability is not established through significant coverage by reliable, independent sources. Sources provided include one press release and three social networking sites. Best regards, Cind.amuse 21:37, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

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• http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Shields_%26_Brooks_%28disambiguation%29
  

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• I have responded at the Talk:Shields & Brooks (disambiguation) page. Best regards, Cind.amuse 14:48, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

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African Prisons Project

I have been creating/editing the Philemon Ministries page based on styles from African Prisons Project. That could probably benefit from copy editing too. Thanks Christianinthelaw (talk) 15:17, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks for the heads up. I'll take a look at it for compliance. Best regards, Cind.amuse 15:19, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

It might also be worth look at The Lawyers' Christian Fellowship; I have used styles from that as well. Thanks for the links. Quick question - why is a link to an offical youtube channel not appropriate? Cheers again for the help! Christianinthelaw (talk) 15:30, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Kelly W. Case

I don't know if you've been watching my talk page, but I actually raised the edit you reverted on my talk page with DGG. ConconJondor (talk) 18:46, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

assisting NP Patrollers

I'm delighted to find someone helping beginners learn how to do NPP. DGG ( talk ) 23:42, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks so much for the kind words. I enjoy helping out others when I am able. Even vandals or disillusioned ones. I'd much rather help turn them into valuable Wikipedia editors then to turn them away. While it is sometimes a challenge, it is a welcome one. Thanks again for contacting me. Cind.amuse 09:30, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

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Request for adoption (when you are up to it)

Hello Cindamuse I am fairly new to the wonderful World of Wiki. I am hoping to find a mentor who can guide me in the area of BLP's. I have a few friends who's articles could use some attention and I am determined to help them to the best of my ability. In this case, that will require some coaching. Your healing must take priority over my adoption. Please advise if you may be able to assist me in the future. Have a day filled with blessings. Digital villager Digital Villager 19:31, 10 February 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Digital villager (talk • contribs)

• I'd be more than happy to help you out on Wikipedia. My hand is continuing to heal, it's just deformed a tad bit. Some helpful policies and guidelines for BLPs can be found here, here, and here. The first thing I highly recommend is that you create your articles in a subpage of your userspace. When you create a draft version first, you can then ask for feedback on it, without the risk of speedy deletion. I've seen too many people jump in with both feet, only to have their article deleted soon after they create it. It's like jumping off the high dive, when they haven't learned to tread water. Please let me know what's on your mind. Share your ideas with me. I'll be happy to work with you to help make your involvement on Wikipedia a pleasant one. (Be forewarned, Wikipedia can be addicting!) Please don't hesitate to contact me if you have any questions. Best regards, Cind.amuse 20:54, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
• Thank you for the links Cindamuse. I will have some time to study them today. I am crystal clear about the potential for addiction here. It is an amazing environment. As I mentioned, I will start by working to improve the articles already started regarding my friends Yank Barry and Gary US Bonds among others. I sincerely appreciate your offer to coach me as I become fluent in Wiki-speak. Thank you and Happy Valentines Day. Digital Villager 16:17, 14 February 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Digital villager (talk • contribs)
• I have read the suggested material. After reading a number of biographies both of living and deceased persons, I have reached the conclusion that it is impossible to please everyone when creating or editing an article in the Wikipedia environment. A number of my ancestors have articles written about them and some of the text disagrees with our family's historical information. The BLP articles that I have read can not help but be somewhat incomplete when we consider that we can obtain biographies from Borders that devote 400+ pages to a 20 year span of someone's life. Unless I am wrong, the key to creating and editing articles here is a "determined best efforts approach". With this in mind, I was wondering if you would have a moment to read the two articles that I would like to cut my teeth on. Each of these articles are apparently lacking in certain areas as pointed out by another user. I would sincerely appreciate any specific input that you can share in order to assist me in improving both Yank Barry and Gary US Bonds articles. My goal is to make improvements in order to have the labels removed from them. Once I get these articles sorted out I would like to address a couple of my ancestor's articles but that will require some in-depth research. I am glad that your hand is improving. Have a great day.Digital Villager 15:56, 24 February 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Digital villager (talk • contribs)

Flint Dille & John Zuur Platten

When were you planning to create the AfD discussion? I'm not sure why you're so intent on wasting everyone's time, these people are clearly not notable by wikipedia's, or any other standard. Kuguar03 (talk) 06:59, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

• I removed a CSD G11 due to the lack of blatant promotional content. I then removed the PROD and indicated that if you have concerns over the notability of the subjects of these two articles, by all means open a discussion. I do not share your concerns and recommend that you present your thoughts to the community for consensus. Best regards, Cind.amuse 07:25, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
  • Could you please answer my question? There is no point in moving forward until I have assurances that you are acting in good faith. Thanks. Kuguar03 (talk) 07:53, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
    • With all due respect, why would you assume bad faith? You asked when I plan on creating an AfD discussion. I answered stating that I have no intention to do so. Was there something else? Assurances from me in any regard should not hinder your ability to function on Wikipedia. If you are assured of your own convictions, again, present the article for discussion. Regards, Cind.amuse 08:30, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
      • You said in both edit summaries "rm prod/send to AfD", yet you did not send it to AfD, you merely removed the prod, and gave the reason "meets [WP:CREATIVE]]; significant figure in video game writing, development, and production; widely cited by peers", even though that's clearly not true for either, and "feature film screenwriter", even though that does not make a subject notable. Based on that, I have every reason to believe that if I start the AfD discussion you'll just remove it. If you are acting in good faith, then please put the speedy delete back up (as both pages are 100% promotional), or the prod, as neither are notable, or send it to AfD as you said you were going to. Kuguar03 (talk) 08:43, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
        • Sorry for the shorthand. I should have been more clear in my summary. I removed the prod, therefore, you should send it to AfD, because the subject "meets WP:CREATIVE; significant figure in video game writing, development, and production; widely cited by peers". It may be beneficial for you to review Wikipedia's deletion process. If you maintain that the article does not meet the criteria for inclusion, the appropriate action is to open a discussion at AfD. Once a speedy deletion or PROD is removed or declined, we do not replace with another one, but opt for discussion. This would be your course of action at this point. Best regards, Cind.amuse 09:08, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
          • I'm very familiar with Wikipedia's deletion policies, which is why I find your actions so baffling. But we're still at an impasse here: I can't send them to AfD because you refuse to give assurances that you won't just remove it, and you won't send them because you're determined to keep the articles despite the clear lack of notability. What can be done to resolve this? Kuguar03 (talk) 09:21, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
            • Follow your heart. Cind.amuse 09:27, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
              • Thanks for clearing that up! Kuguar03 (talk) 09:31, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

You might want to actually read Wikipedia:Proposed deletion sometime since you seem so fond of it. It clearly states that if you object to a nomination, you should "Consider improving the article to address the concerns raised." Is there some reason you're refusing to do this? If it is somehow true that these individuals are "significant figure in video game writing, development, and production" and "widely cited by peers" it shouldn't be too hard to find references, no? I've looked and can't find them, and I could be considered an expert on the game industry by virtue of having worked in it for 20 years. If you have greater expertise or access to information that's not available through conventional outlets, please do us all a favor and share it. If that's somehow not the case and you're acting in bad faith, or simply too lazy to check, please stop. I'm trying to work to improve wikipedia and I don't really enjoy having those efforts blocked by editors who do not share the goals of the project. As it stands you've offered nothing but contradiction and utterly failed to give any justification for your removal of the prod. If an AfD discussion was warranted I would have started there; it's clearly not in this case, and if you feel otherwise, the onus is on you to offer evidence. Simply saying "no" without any rationale whatsoever is not constructive. Kuguar03 (talk) 23:52, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

Your actions at this point are clearly wikihounding Kuguar03 (talk) 04:38, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

You really need to stop with all the condescension, passive-aggressive comments, and posturings of moral superiority. I'm actually giving you the benefit of the doubt by assuming you're acting in bad faith, since if you really believe your actions are justified then you're quite delusional. You constantly reference policies and guidelines you clearly don't understand, and do so as a means to avoid actual discussion. And saying I'm a "relatively new editor"? I've been on wikipedia longer than you. You have been completely and utterly wrong at every instance in your interactions with me, from the beginning. I'm giving you the chance here to stop digging and walk away, I suggest you take it. Kuguar03 (talk) 18:22, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

You might also want to look at Graham's Hierarchy of Disagreement at some point. You've never once offered anything beyond "Contradiction: states the opposing case with little or no supporting evidence". Generally not constructive, and certainly no substitute for actual discussion. Kuguar03 (talk) 19:02, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

M Factory article is not mine.

The article M Factory is not my article. Please advise the creator of speedy deletion listing. I only moved it to correctly formatted title.--Dmol (talk) 11:10, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks for contacting me. We had an edit conflict and Twinkle picked up your account during the redirect. I'll check it out. Thanks again, Cind.amuse 11:14, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Big Society Bank

Hi Cindamuse. I started a stub article on Big Society Bank (which has 86k GHits) and within 2 minutes you put it up for a speedy deletion. Isn't that a bit trigger-happy? Esp if you are on Wikibreak! Why not work together and expand it. NBeale (talk) 11:30, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

• Generally, it would be considered a bit hasty to tag articles having no context or content within the first ten minutes. The Big Society Bank was tagged as promotional, due to the attempt to establish notability through speculation of future events. Wikipedia is not a news source or public relations outlet. I think the article would best be added to the encyclopedia once it truly becomes notable. Best regards, Cind.amuse 11:44, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
  • Hi Cindamuse. 86k GHits is not speculation! And please read WP:BEFORE - I'm afraid that nomination was a clear violation of policy. NBeale (talk) 14:49, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
    • Thanks, I appreciate the note. I respect the community's consensus, while disagreeing with the rationale. That said, I do not appreciate the belittling comments you have made about me on talk pages and in the AfD. Try to show a little restraint and self-control. And please read WP:AGF. Thanks and God bless, Cind.amuse 17:53, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

About: St. Xavier's College, Palayamkottai

Hi, Cindamuse. I would argue that the better outcome for St. Xavier's College, Palayamkottai would not be a WP:SPEEDY but a Redirect to Manonmaniam Sundaranar University per Wikipedia:WikiProject Universities/Article guidelines#Faculties and academic colleges. Your thoughts about this? --Shirt58 (talk) 12:34, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

I placed the speedy due to the copyvio. It looks like the article is stubbed out now. I think a redirect would be appropriate. (Not much to the article without the copyvio content.) Cind.amuse 12:39, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Talked to Salih about this. Perhaps lets wait and see that turns out for the now? --Shirt58 (talk) 14:07, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Ideally, I would like see an independent article about this college as it is one of the oldest colleges in Tirunelveli district and has a significant history behind it. I did not search for any sources, but I am sure that there must something available, at least in the local language Tamil. So let's keep it as a stub. However, if consensus is to redirect to Manonmaniam Sundaranar University, I have no problem. Salih (talk) 15:49, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

I responded on the talk page, but just noticed your comment here. A merge would be appropriate, and would greatly enhance the University's article. That said, it would be interesting to read more about the significant history of the college. Could you add the statement that the college is the oldest in the Tirunelveli district, supported by independent, reliable sources? If the article can be fleshed out with additional content, I say... go for it. Otherwise, a merge would work. Just my two cents. Cind.amuse 17:59, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

What we need is some kind of three-way conference call wikimedia software update to talk about these kind of things!--Shirt58 (talk) 13:17, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Indian University system is different from the west, here the colleges usually are independent entities and not an integral part of a University. Affiliation to a University just means that the degree is awarded in the name of the University. Salih (talk) 13:30, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Three way conference call? I'm down with that! Based on what Salih says about independence and affiliation, I would go with keeping the article. I added a bit about the founder, as well as a stub notation. It's an appropriate stub right now, but could be enhance with a bit about the history. Please let me know if you have any questions. Cind.amuse 18:25, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

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RE: Linking to Dr. Giorgio Frangiolli's internet1marketing.com

I am ABSOLUTELY agree with you and share your concerns if article's are promotional, NOT neutral or links are NOT relevant. In my opinion, people who contribute articles have to understand the article's subjects. In most cases such people (who write articles) deal with the subject - work in a company or have interests in the subjects’ field (otherwise, they are amateurs). If people who are involved in the article's subject would stop writing RELEVANT articles - we would have amateur approach in Wikipedia. Thank you. Giorgio-1970 (talk) 16:59, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

• Hi Giorgio! I hope things are going well for you on Wikipedia. I noticed that your Internet marketing tools article has been nominated for deletion. This essentially means that your article will undergo a discussion by editors to determine if it meets the policies and guidelines for inclusion, which would allow it to remain on Wikipedia. Were you aware that you could participate in this discussion? You are welcome to recommend either keeping or deleting the article. You can also respond to any comments or questions raised by other editors. The discussion will go on for seven days, after which, an uninvolved editor will review the discussion and determine the consensus as to whether the article will remain or be deleted. Here is the link for the discussion:Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Internet marketing tools. You can also read the notes on how to effectively participate in the discussion here: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion#How to discuss an AfD. Feel free to contact me if you have any questions. Best regards, Cind.amuse 17:38, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Welcome to the Wikipedia Ambassador Program

Hi Cindamuse!

Congratulations! Your application to join the Wikipedia Ambassador Program as an Online Ambassador has been accepted.

First off, I apologize for the following info-dump. If you're wondering how to get started or are wondering what's going on, please contact me.

If you haven't already done so, take a look at the Online Ambassador guidelines: Wikipedia:Online_Ambassadors/Guidelines

The "mentorship process" section lays out approximately what will be expected of you as a mentor. If you'd like, you can also volunteer to be the coordinating online ambassador for a class or two.

Please add yourself to the top of the list of available mentors, and note the number of students you think you'd like to mentor next term (it doesn't have to be a final answer, this is just to help with matching students and mentors once the students start getting active) and if you'd like to take on the coordination role for any classes note that as well: Wikipedia:Online_Ambassadors/Mentors (Don't add yourself to the lower "Additional online ambassadors section; that's for ambassadors-in-training and ambassadors who are already mentoring all the the students they want to take on.)

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If you use IRC, please consider adding #wikipedia-en-ambassadors and #wikipedia-en-classroom to your channel lineup.

Finally, please help us find more mentors! Because the number of students, and their involvement with mentors, is increasing so much for this term, we're going to need a lot of solid Online Ambassadors. Please take a few minutes to think of several other editors you know who would make good mentors, and invite them to apply the the Wikipedia Ambassador Program. The key things we look for are: regular activity (so that we can be confident they'll keep up with their mentoring role for the whole term), friendliness, and the ability to give detailed, substantive feedback on articles (both short new articles, and longer, more mature ones). You can point them to Wikipedia:Online Ambassadors for information on how to apply and what to expect.

If you have any questions, please let me know.

--Sage Ross - Online Facilitator, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 15:52, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks so much. I look forward to working with you and the other members of the team. Please don't hesitate to contact me with any suggestions, concerns, questions, bribes, or whatever else may cross your mind. Have a great weekend! Cind.amuse 11:53, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

Yuppo

Hi there! I see you removed the CSD I put up in the Yuppo article. The article is about a word invented by two unremarkable people who were not demonstrated or asserted to be notable in any way, so I felt the unremarkable person was appropriate. All the best, Pianotech ^{Talk to me!}/_Contribs 14:47, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks for contacting me. If the article was about the person that made up the word, it would be accurate to place the A7 speedy tag. However, like you mentioned above, the article was about a "word" (or neologism), so it requires a PROD. Feel free to contact me anytime, if you have any questions. Best regards, Cind.amuse 06:19, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
  • You convinced me! Or as a true football fan would say, "Upon further review, the ruling on the field was overturned." Good call. :) All the best, Pianotech ^{Talk to me!}/_Contribs 17:42, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
    • And I just got done watching a football movie. I take all my cues from Keanu Reeves. And George Clooney. And Brad Pitt. And Antonio Banderas. But I digress. Hope you have an awesome day! Cind.amuse 17:59, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

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Mojo Project

Hi, just so you know: I did not misunderstand the guidelines on talk pages for the user involved in the above article. I was trying to retrieve a situation (badly, as it turns out, as I made an unwise comment and she went berserk about it) & so restored just the welcome message so that the links were there for her. My comment on blanking pages was because the user had blanked the article talk page after I had replied to her comment there directing her to what I'd already told her on her own talk page - that blanking was out of order. She seemed to be very confused about things but, oddly, appeared to have a grasp of such arcane matters as the delete page templates, the OTRS system and all sorts, which makes me a little suspicious despite AGF. Her website, BTW, is not great: I tried it subsequently using an alias & it is affiliate selling etc. I would encourage anyone to stay with this project but there are limits of personal tolerance (and inability to accept answers to your own queries is one of them). - Sitush (talk) 14:23, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

• My comments were in regards to your edits found here and here. The user blanked her talk page, as is completely within her rights to do so. However, you reverted her edits to show your chosen priorities, rather than that of the editor. Unless you have specific permission from the talk page owner, you should never remove content from their talk page. Honestly, your comments and interaction with this editor have been inappropriate. Rather than working to retain the editor, your belittling and demeaning comments have served to actually hinder the user's ability to freely edit on Wikipedia. Your comments are inappropriate in this forum. Berserk? Really? Her website is "not great?" Really? And affiliate selling? C'mon. Let's focus on Wikipedia, okay? Best regards, Cind.amuse 15:10, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

The Centre, Bristol

Thanks for looking at The Centre, Bristol the other day. I've been doing a bit of work on it since you tagged it, and would be grateful if you could (a) see if you think any of its issues are resolved, and/or (b) give any more concrete suggestions for improvement. I may be fooling myself, but I'd really like to see if I can work this up to GA status... — Preceding unsigned comment added by RedSquirrel (talk • contribs) 22:30, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

Obviously it would help if I could remember to sign things. You should see me try to bank a cheque!RedSquirrel (talk) 22:44, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

• I think you did a great job on the article! I went ahead and removed the maintenance tags. The only thing I see off hand are minor punctuation issues (commas, periods, and apostrophes) and reworking the lede to present and emphasize what makes the Centre unique, special, or prominent to the residents of Bristol. Honestly though, I'm quickly fading due to pain meds, so I'm not able to give it a full review. But really, it looks great! I'll try to take another look in a few hours. Stop by anytime you have questions or whatever. Best regards, Cind.amuse 23:03, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

Mentoring students: be sure to check in on them

This message is going out to all of the Online Ambassadors who are, or will be, serving as mentors this term.

Hi there! This is just a friendly reminder to check in on what your mentees are doing. If they've started making edits, take a look and help them out or do some example fixes for them, if they need it. And if they are doing good, let them know it!

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Boldre Working Mens Club - marked for deletion

Hi, you left a comment on my page re the Boldre Working Mens Club hangon request. I was wondering if my comment on the talk page was OK, and if so how long do I have to make people happy its a normal page. Ideally I just want to do a few comments each day in my lunch break to build it up. Happy to have any suggestions else I'll slowly work through the page, but it might take a few weeks. Edwardbairstow (talk) 13:14, 22 February 2011 (UTC)edwardbairstow

• I would recommend that you quickly move the article to a subpage of your userspace and work on it there, until it is ready for the encyclopedia. The article needs support through significant coverage in reliable sources, that are independent of the subject. Feel free to contact me if you need help or have additional questions. Cind.amuse 13:49, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

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PPI Program/White House Conference on Aging

Hi Cindamuse, I am currently working under the U.S Public Policy project at James Madison University. The specific page I am working on is the White House Conference on Aging. Just wondering if you will be my mentor!? Thanks, murdocgr — Preceding unsigned comment added by Murdocgr (talk • contribs) 18:39, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

• While reviewing my talk page, it became apparent that I missed your request. Please accept my apology for not seeing this earlier. One thing that will help is remembering to add a section heading to your comments. At this point, it looks like you are working with User:Jmh649 as a mentor. If this is not so, please let me know. I would be more than happy to help you with you project. Even if you have a question and cannot reach anybody else, just shoot me a line. Happy Editing! Cind.amuse 10:31, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

Shelley Lubben

Could you be more specific about how using the word, "said", violates the manual of style or neutral point of view? The independent source (relevant magazine) to that assertion can't verify when she contracted herpes. Morbidthoughts (talk) 22:46, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

• Honestly, I don't think I can. A bit hasty on my part. My bad. Not sure what I was thinking at that point. Thanks for pointing out my error. To that end I went back to reread the guidelines. I removed a couple of blogs used as references for the content on the just-released documentary, but left the content intact. I also made a change in the lede paragraph, changing "educates the public", to "speaks in public forums", thinking it a bit presumptious. I think the "reaches out to men and women..." could also be changed to be more specific, but I'm going to bed. Have a great day/evening. Regards, Cind.amuse 12:20, 1 March 2011 (UTC)