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The information provided was sent to me by another person and I assumed it was there own paraphrasing. I did not give the material a hard read, as I had just used Frank Donner as a reference in other work of mine. In this busy world, I just wanted to make sure that the man was remembered for his work. It seemed unfair to punish him to obscurity just for dying before the invention of Wikipedia. In this hectice world, It was important enough for me to make sure he got an entry, but not important enough for me to do an extentive review due to time constraints. I thought that others might contribute to improving the listing once it was established. Mia culpa.

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The information provided was sent to me by another person and I assumed it was there own paraphrasing. I did not give the material a hard read, as I had just used Frank Donner as a reference in other work of mine. In this busy world, I just wanted to make sure that the man was remembered for his work. It seemed unfair to punish him to obscurity just for dying before the invention of Wikipedia. In this hectice world, It was important enough for me to make sure he got an entry, but not important enough for me to do an extentive review due to time constraints. I thought that others might contribute to improving the listing once it was established. Mia culpa.

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Er...

You do realize that Wikipedia is an international project, right? Not just an American one? DS (talk) 18:22, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Er, Um

I thought the truth was the truth.

I did not realize that the truth change based on whether I was an American or something else? What Country do I have to say I am from to be anointed as one that tells the truth?

Here is an article I wrote with the intent to improve our government through dissent. [1] Was that sufficiently critical of the USA enough to earn me the International mantel of "truth teller"?

I reject your entire position

I am a critical thinker, not an international progressive history revisionist, as apparently control Wikipedia.

You straighten out your Government's Propaganda Machine and I will work on attacking any propaganda machines I find, like Wikipedia.

Don Mashak The Cynical Patriot CynicalPatriot (talk) 16:32, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Your edits to Tea Party protests, 2009

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I am specifically referring to these diffs: [2] [3] [4] [5]

The following quotes were especially ridiculous:

• "Initially the Republican Party attempt to slip some Republican Trojan horse tea party groups in in an attempt to Usurp the Movement. But they were discovered."

• "Dont read the estimates, view the pictures yourself. (The TEA Party Movement does not tell you how to think, we ask you to "think critically" for yourselves.)"

• "Obama's Educated Elitist thugs have wrongfully tried to paint the TEA PArty Movement as a rebellion by uneducated commoners against the superior Obama educated elite class."

• "And now, my fellow American's, I ask you to ask yourselves, "Did your government and the major media lie to you?" And if so, for what purpose? CynicalPatriot (talk) 18:17, 14 February 2010 (UTC)"

Remember, this is an encyclopedia. Don't write to the audience in the second person. And please don't sign article pages.

MakeBelieveMonster (talk) 03:37, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

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Make believe monster.... You cannot be serious about neutrality. Read that article. That article is not neutral... It is painted from Progressive Historical Revisionist persceptitive

Did you even Read Bloombergs articles TEA PArty Teens... He made that case. I cannot make up this stuff. You have no neutralilty if you say that my reference to his perspective of what the TEA Party was about about educated vs uneducated class warfare, then lets just give up this sham propaganda to the rest of the world the WIkipedia is neutral.

Correct the article to make it reflect what truly happened. I was there. I participated. What qualifies you to define what the TEA PArty was better than myself?

The article as it currently stands it purely propaganda to demonize and discredit the TEA PArty movement.

Is that your intent?

CynicalPatriot (talk) 01:49, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

I like the "Tea Party Teens" article, and I see some of what you're trying to get at. I'm definitely not saying you're wrong. But remember that on wikipedia you can't make up your own analysis, you need to attribute it to someone.

For example...

GOOD: New York Times columnist David Brooks has described the Tea Party Movement as embodying a backlash against "every single idea associated with the educated class."

BAD: The Tea Party Movement is a backlash against the educated class.

BAD: Obama's Educated Elitist thugs have wrongfully tried to paint the TEA PArty Movement as a rebellion by uneducated commoners against the superior Obama educated elite class.

So you can't make your own analysis, but you can cite other people's analysis. (Assuming it's notable.) Hope this helps!

MakeBelieveMonster (talk) 04:49, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

If you feel that the article as it currently stands contains propaganda, then by all means, replace the misinformation with neutral, verifiable truth. Just make sure you're following Wikipedia's guidelines, and we'll be glad to see a propaganda-ridden article turned into something that accurately represents the truth. Minetruly (talk) 19:44, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Truth vs. Verifiability

Your statement, "I was there. I participated. What qualifies you to define what the TEA PArty was better than myself," indicates you don't understand the problem we have with vandalism. You see, some people deliberately edit Wikipedia articles so they contain lies and misinformation. This is why all statements must be backed by reliable sources.

YOU know that you are giving a truthful first-hand account. However, WE do not know this. Wikipedia has always been plagued by vandals who edit Wikipedia so it contains misinformation. For example, I could go to the Tea Party protests article and say that a large group of Tea Party protesters raped five teenaged girls to death. I could do it right now. Are you saying that all I need to do to convince the other editors to preserve my lie is to say, "I was there. I participated. If you ignore me, you're ignoring the truth?" How do you propose the editors distinguish the truth-tellers like you from the liars like me? Minetruly (talk) 19:44, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Fake News Mainstream media and ProgDog College Professors are not credible, neutral unabiased sources nor are folks on the Soros payroll. Its like living under Hitler and the NAZIs and being required to cite a NAZI/Hitler authorized source to prove your criticism of Hitler and the NAZIs.

At some point, there will be another series of Nuremburg Trials. NAZI Propaganda Minister Goebbels committed suicide to avoid facing the music.

You folks purposely censoring and promoting propaganda to warp the minds of the masses will not be afforded the opportunity to commit suicide before you face the music at the next round of Nuremburg style trials for crimes against humanity.

Screw this whole idea that only educated elites can publish the truth.... That sounds a lot like the establishment of truth by the Kings and Church under the Divine Right of Kings.... Some folks stormed the Bastille, guillotined royalty and revolted from Britain over crap thinking like that.

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Your Teahouse edit

You seem to have reverted the WP:Teahouse to a version of the page from 2015. As this is obviously an error, I have reverted your change. power~enwiki (π, ν) 02:28, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

Hello ([User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]]: I presume the truth is the truth worldwide. I have studied the Enlightenment extensively. The Men of Letters reduced Natural Law to writing not Progressivism. Show me a mention of Progressivism during the Enlightenment 1650-1800 by the Men of Letters. Locke? Rosseau? Hobbes? No, this is another attempted PRogDog rewrite of history. The Enlightenment produced Natural Law and Natural Rights which displaced Divine Right of Kings with a Paradigm shift. Social Darwinism (1870s), after Darwin's Origin of species morphed into Progressivism in America and the NAZIs in Germany... You know, Eugencis, etc.

Please do tell me which of the Men of Letters talks about Progressivism.