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Speedy deletion of Dreger clock

A tag has been placed on Dreger clock requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a very short article providing little or no context to the reader. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 06:12, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

February 2008

You should wait for others to write an article about subjects in which you are personally involved, as you did at Dreger clock. This applies to articles about you, your achievements, your band, your business, your publications, your website, your relatives, and any other possible conflict of interest.

Creating an article about yourself is strongly discouraged. If you create such an article, it might be listed on articles for deletion. Deletion is not certain, but many feel strongly that you should not start articles about yourself. This is because independent creation encourages independent validation of both significance and verifiability. All edits to articles must conform to Wikipedia:No original research, Wikipedia:Neutral point of view, and Wikipedia:Verifiability.

If you are not "notable" under Wikipedia guidelines, creating an article about yourself may violate the policy that Wikipedia is not a personal webspace provider and would thus qualify for speedy deletion. If your achievements, etc., are verifiable and genuinely notable, and thus suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia, someone else will probably create an article about you sooner or later. (See Wikipedia:Wikipedians with articles.) Thank you. faithless (^speak) 06:20, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Images

Further to the reply I left to your comment on my talk page, you're going to need guidance on image licensing. This would be a good page to look at – particularly here – before uploading anything. Given the nature of the subject, it's unlikely that non-free images would be permissible, so some kind of free license would be necessary. In addition, it's important to note you cannot release an image under a free license if you don't own the copyright yourself; in that case, you're going to have to look into requesting copyright permission.

Note that releasing an image under a GFDL-compatible license would allow people to copy and reuse the image for their own purposes (provided they give attribution to the author), so you might want to be careful about which particular images you choose to release under such a license.

Ok, I think I've covered all bases there. Cheers. --Sturm 10:53, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

The Clock

Hi, thanks for your message. Basically, I agree with what Charles Sturm said - stick to the facts and back up your words with references. I don't think we're in the same situation here as someone writing about themselves or their business. Wikipedia doesn't insist that people with particular knowledge, interests or resources can't use them just because a family member was involved a few generations ago!

One thing, though - having a username of DregerClock when you're (at the moment) predominantly working on an article of the same name could be a little, well, eyebrow-raising for others - it made me think, anyway, whether it was appropriate. It might make people think that there's an inappropriate connection between you and the subject. I don't think it's a violation of the username policy (in a sense that User:Knott's Berry Farm would be a breach of the policy when there's an article about Knott's Berry Farm - it would be a promotional username even if it never edited that article). However, you may want to consider getting a more "neutral" name. You get to keep your contributions, incidentally (they're transferred to your new name). The link is WP:CHU if you're interested. Let me know if I can help further. Regards, Bencherlite^Talk 18:55, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Hello again. What a nice shiny new username you have! Look forward to seeing it all around the 'pedia. Regards, Bencherlite^Talk 00:57, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

No problem. (Incidentally, try to get into the habit of signing your talkpage messages with~~~~, which leaves a name/time/date signature - it makes it easier to contact people that way). If there's anything else I can do to assist, let me know - I have adopted new users in the past and I've picked up a bit of an idea how things work around here over the last year or so... Bencherlite^Talk 01:04, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Bencherlite! I noticed that you did a header change to the clock page to make if conform to some spec... I was not able to figure out what it was you did and the link to that WO:MOS page seems to just contain Gibberish. Did someone vandalize that page? also... can I, or should I remove the {{under construction}} header from the Dreger Clock Site when I am done adding the main materials? or does someone else have to remove it? DregerClock (talk) 17:22, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

That would be down to my hurried typing of WP:MOS, better known as Wikipedia:Manual of Style. Specifically, we tend to avoid starting a section heading with an article such as "a", "an" or "the", except when they are part of a proper noun; also, headers tend only to capitalise the first word, again except when there's a proper noun involved.

This link illustrates what I changed. Oh, and feel free to remove the construction template when you've finished your revisions. --Sturm 18:04, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Thank you both for all your help and advice Bencherlite and Sturm! I think I have finished adding the basics of info for the Dreger Clock Article. I may add some other sections to it again later as I have time. I removed the Under Construction tag for now.

One more question... because I do want to keep walking on the right line when comes to content and hyperlinks: The reference section does already link to the copies of historical news articles hosted on our project website, so it is not a problem if you think it would be over the line if I added a link to the official site, just as a link to the official site too. I was wondering if that would be appropriate or not. If not, that is fine with me.

Also... I would be open to being wiki-adopted by one or both of you as I would love to become more familiar with editing and contributing especially to local California and Orange County History, and plan to spend time learning the typical markup tags better. -- OChistory (talk) 21:26, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

I've added the official site link myself. The references are presented to verify information in the article (and at somepoint I may get around to converting them into inline citations) but I tend to think of them as different to something which is presented as further info not contained on Wikipedia (which is covered by WP:External links).

I've no idea what Wiki-adoption entails. But you're more than welcome to ask me for help when you need it. As Paul Erdős wouldn't have put it: "My talk page is open." --Sturm 22:07, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Adoption Offer

Hi! I'm Barkjon. I noticed you would like to be adopted. Well, I'll adopt you! Just reply on my talk page with your answer. Trust me, the adoption program is great. I graduated out of it!-- Barkjon  14:34, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of List of clocks

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