User talk:Nixeagle/films that are also novels list

Record of progress on this page

Only major events, such as categories being completed or new categories being added

• 05:44, 18 April 2006 (UTC)-----Category:Thriller films ADDED (163 articles)
• 07:00, 7 May 2006 (UTC)-----Category:Children's films ADDED (18 articles)
• 07:00, 7 May 2006 (UTC)-----Category:Air Bud ADDED (0 articles)
• 07:03, 7 May 2006 (UTC)-----An American Tail ADDED (0 articles)
• 07:11, 7 May 2006 (UTC)-----Category:Disney Channel original movies ADDED (6 articles)
• 07:16, 7 May 2006 (UTC)-----Category:The Land Before Time ADDED (0 articles)
• 07:24, 7 May 2006 (UTC)-----Category:Children's film stubs ADDED (39 articles)
• 03:13, 17 June 2006 (UTC)-----Category:Fantasy-comedy films ADDED (2 articles)

All of the above will be maintianed by Eagle (talk) (desk)

Question about linking

As in the case of The Day of the Dolphin, where the Robert Merle article says that it doesn't really resemble the original novel. Do we then go ahead and link to it anyway? Another example is Cheaper by the Dozen, which only borrows the concept and not the plot of the novel. Her Pegship 23:21, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

• • Sounds like a question best asked on that page's relevent talkpage, personally, if the book is mentioned, you might as well link to it. After all someone may want to know about both. And the link that you do make is better than some wikilinks that I have seen:-). This one is actually useful.Eagle (talk) (desk) 00:45, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

I'm baaaaack...

I've been fixing links for The Exorcist and The Manchurian Candidate and The Poseidon Adventure and and and... so if I'm absent for a while it's because I'm relinking one of those tremendously linked article splits. *sigh* Her Pegship 04:16, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

• Ok, though I am sure this does not apply now since it has been so long... sorry about that!! Eagle talk 03:15, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Suggestion to replace comment system

I encountered one of this project's html comments in Syriana, and was rather confused as to what it was. I was quite tempted to remove it despite the "do not remove" note, because it looked like nonsense. This sort of tagging system is a form of instruction creep; people shouldn't have to know what these tags mean or how the project's bot works. It's unnecessarily complicated. I'm unfamiliar with the project/bot, so I hope this makes sense... How about just creating a user subpage of the bot that lists the split articles, so project members can use the system without cluttering articlespace? ~ Booya ^Bazooka 00:58, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Not sure where to suggest this

or whom to suggest it to, but Practical Magic definitely needs to be split. The movie was based on the book, but they are so divergent as to be different entirely.--Ibis3 03:37, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

I just took another look. I see that the article doesn't actually contain any info about the book at all. So I guess what really needs to happen is the creation of a Novel article.--Ibis3 03:40, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

False hits

The order here does not matter... this is only for programmatic reasons. As such, please put EVERY false hit that is not the result of human error under this heading, even if they are repeated, the reason being that this allows me to determine which false hits are generated most frequently.

Mentions an unrelated book

(items in bold are repeat "finds")

1. The Abyss
2. Amélie
3. The Black Sleep (1956 film)
4. Bride of the Monster
5. Code 46
6. Cool World
7. Dark Star (film)
8. The Day After
9. Defending Your Life
10. Edward Scissorhands
11. Excalibur (film)
12. EXistenZ
13. The Faculty
14. Fantasia (film)
15. Gattaca
16. Ghost in the Machine (1993 film)
17. Gremlins
18. Gremlins 2: The New Batch
19. Halloweentown
20. History of science fiction films
21. The Island (2005 film)
22. It Came from Beneath the Sea
23. Kinsey (film)
24. Labyrinth (film)
25. Lady in the Water
26. Ladyhawke
27. List of science fiction clichés
28. The Matrix Reloaded
29. The Matrix Revolutions
30. The Matrix
31. Merlin's Shop of Mystical Wonders
32. Mesa of Lost Women
33. The Mummy (1999 film)
34. The NeverEnding Story III
35. Phase IV
36. Pod People
37. Renaissance (film)
38. Repo Man
39. Science fiction film
40. Sid and Nancy
41. S1m0ne
42. Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow
43. Slither (film)
44. Soldier (film)
45. Starship Troopers 2: Hero of the Federation
46. Steamboy
47. The Story of the Kelly Gang
48. Troll (film)
49. Wizards (film)

Mentions a tie-in book or novelization, not the source

(items in bold are repeat "finds")

1. Armageddon (film)
2. Back to the Future
3. Back to the Future Part II
4. Back to the Future Part III
5. Battlestar Galactica (film)
6. Captain EO
7. The Care Bears Battle the Freeze Machine
8. Conan the Destroyer
9. The Dark Crystal
10. Dr. Who and the Daleks
11. Downtime (Doctor Who)
12. E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial
13. Event Horizon (film)
14. Fantastic Voyage
15. The Fifth Element
16. The Final Countdown
17. Gorgo
18. Halo (film)
19. Highlander (series)
20. Independence Day (film)
21. It's Great to Be Alive
22. Jason X
23. King Kong (2005 film)
24. The Last Man on Earth (1924)
25. The Last Starfighter
26. Masters of the Universe (film)
27. Meteor Man
28. MirrorMask
29. Piglet's Big Movie
30. Santa Claus: The Movie
31. Serenity (film)
32. Shakedown: Return of the Sontarans
33. [[Shine (film)]
34. SpaceCamp
35. Splash
36. Stargate (film)
37. Summer of '42
38. The Terminator - comic book adaptation
39. Terminator 2: Judgment Day - comic book adaptation
40. THX 1138
41. Tron (film)
42. Ultraviolet (film)
43. Virtuosity
44. Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea
45. Warlords of Atlantis
46. Willow (film)
47. The X Files (film)

Other

• Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory - This one I added the "split comment" to on May 7, yet it came up under this search. ♥ Her Pegship♥ 15:38, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Is the comment still there at the time of the search? I will do some testing... I might have made a typo in my regex statement... (also there is one condition that without 2 sweeps... 10% fall through the cracks...) I am sorry. When time allows I will fix that "bug". (plus will give us more flexibility in "filtering out" types of articles). Cheers!!Eagle talk 06:49, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
    • Yes, it was still there. No big deal as it was only 1 instance, but I thought you might want to know.

♥ Her Pegship♥ 17:59, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

• • • • A footnote: this article turned up again in the list of July 9. ♥ Her Pegship♥ 23:50, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
• Oh yes... thanks for telling me this! I was wondering when you would notice. I was about ready to tell you. (I discovered this last week...)Eagle talk 02:55, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

• Jurassic Park III, Invisible Agent, The Invisible Man Returns all have characters from the respective novels but the plot does not come from a novel. ♥ Her Pegship♥ 20:45, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

• • Interesting... but I am unable to make a Regex based on a character's name. I am sorry about that:)

Unless... in the false hit films that you have found, namely those referring to characters from a book, is there a pattern of words that occurs in these... but does not occur in other films that you have seen. I will be looking for something next week as I am doing a complete revamp of the program that makes these lists. For more information go to Kevinalewis's talk page where him and I have been discussing some ideas. My side of the conversation is in my June Archive... and some is on my talk page. Eagle talk 05:01, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

• List of original characters in the Lord of the Rings film trilogy, SkekAyuk, SkekEkt, SkekTek - Articles about characters; each article lives in a film category but is not strictly about the film itself.
• The World of The Dark Crystal - Article about a tie-in book; again, lives in a film category but is not strictly about the film itself.
• Black Friday (1940 film) uses the word "bookish" in the text. ♥ Her Pegship♥ 00:05, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
• Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind - unrelated book word
• Forbidden World - uses the word "novel" as in "unusual" - not the program's fault! <g> ♥ Her Pegship♥ 17:17, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
• The Trollenberg Terror - uses phrase "based on" but refers to its early script
• Westworld - mentions oil-based makeup!
• Zenon: Z3 - based on characters from a novel
• Superman (1978 film) - "based on" used, but not based on a book
• Transformers (2007 film) - "based on" used, but not based on a book
• Silent Running - no idea why this turned up
• Funny Girl (film) - word "book" used in a theatrical context

Articles with "split comment" appearing in the July 9 list

1. The BFG (film)
2. Big Fish
3. Charlie and the Chocolate Factory (film)
4. Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone (film)
5. Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets (film)
6. Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban (film)
7. Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire (film)
8. Lemony Snicket's A Series of Unfortunate Events
9. The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (film)
10. The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (film)
11. The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (film)
12. Matilda (film)
13. Scrooged
14. Shrek
15. Virus (1999 film)
16. The Witches (film)

Suggestion

I am checking the list now for false hits and find that several items are showing up which showed up in previous searches. (See the bold items in the False Hits section.) I know why, too: They're not based on books, so I didn't add the "split comment" to the article. Yet the program finds them again because of the "trip words" in the text, which I assume are words like "book", "novel", "based on" etc. My suggestion: Can the program exclude articles with the word "novelization" or "novelisation" in the text? That might eliminate some of the repeated false hits. Either that, or come up with an alternative "split comment" phrase, such as <!--No book split necessary - Please do not remove this comment-->, which I can apply to those articles. Any thoughts? ♥ Her Pegship♥ 00:19, 10 July 2006 (UTC)