Matt.forestpath

location of the history section

Hi, you moved the history section of the java programming language down (and noticed that you are designing a programming-language outline). I would like to comment that this is a very bad idea. It is common to have the history at the top only after the introduction and maybe an overview, this has two very good reasones. Firstly Wikipedia is an encyclopeadia and not an instruction manual, therefore these sections are considered more valuable. Secondly and more importantly, paragraphs such as the history are very easy to digest for readers and having 'reference material' at the top will cause the most to stop reading. I would advice you to place the history section at the top and the reference all the way at the bottom. Cheers, —Ruud 22:37, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback. I reverted the article. I had made the same change to 3 other programming articles. Someone else promptly reverted one of them. I reverted the remaining two myself. This gives me a pretty good "consensus" opinion for now that the history needs to be at or near the top. --Flash 23:06, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

Ok, don't be afraid to be WP:BOLD in the future though. —Ruud 23:15, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

Just started a discussion about this on the Java talk page. --Flash 23:45, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

Wikifying Wells Fargo

Flash, you must have a great love for Wells Fargo. Since it was bought out by Northwest 8 years ago, I've seen it turn into a typical electronic modern nightmare. That's great for when you want cash in the middle of the night from and ATM, or pay something or other or transfer money online from your computer at 2 AM, but it's just not the historical company with the stagedrivers and shotgun messengers and frontier pushing policy of the 19th century, and it doesn't deserve to get e-linked to it. So I hate to see it get Wiki link credit for the good old historical Wells, Fargo & Co. that Wyatt and Morgan rode for. Even if it still uses their wagon symbol. So, do you have some fetish about this? People clicking on it will just be directed to company which isn't the same thing. Doesn't even really have the same spirit. Steve 01:02, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, I was unclear on what you meant in your previous edit. I thought you were simply saying to not display the text as "Wells Fargo" for the purposes of wikifying it.

After taking more of a look at the "Wells Fargo" article, it does seem to have a good deal of info relevant to the Wyatt Earp article (under the section "Wells Fargo history"). I think the link is useful with respect to what the company used to be at that time, regardless of what the company is now. And I wasn't able to find any other article about Wells Fargo to alternately link to. --Flash 01:31, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Okay, I have no objection to letting it stand the way you did it. Best. Steve 02:13, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

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